Those are some shitty friends...
“We will bully you for having a bf and plant a seed of doubt in you, but because we CARE, you know? Oh, and we also will try to ruin your relationship with someone you can finally say you love and who loves YOU. Oh, and by the way, want to forget about him for just one night? Just like that, without even a reason to forget”.
Wtf is this? He should dump such toxic friends without a doubt.
Ikr, and then they casually suggest to his boyfriend who went into the club obviously worried about him to have a 4p.
Like yiiiikes, I really hope they're just casual clubbing friends and not people he actually hangs out with on a regular basis.
They both deserve each other. You can hate me as much as you want but I don't understand those who only blame seme for not contacting uke. Because, c'mon, uke also didn't contact seme. Although he WAS constantly in contact with Mari. He COULD ask for Sihun's phone number. But he didn't.
He was just too stubborn. He chose to act like a victim (again -____-).
So they are both at fault - one was too scared and the other one was too stubborn.
"I'd steal a bike for you" LOL xD
I love them sooo much (づ￣ ³￣)づ
After seeing the raws...
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Jesus, it is always sooooo sad to see such good, innocent, sensitive and tender boys like Seno become bitter and lose their sense of self-worth because of the broken heart.
"Even if I dissapear, nobody will care" - that broke my heart so much, and him doing all that stuff with other guys (who didn't give a damn about him) to soothe that pain - it is always so unbearable for me to read/see, because damn it doesn't help with the loneliness. Ohhh, my heart ╥﹏╥
Someone, please, help me to understand - Asa-chan in ch.3 said that he had sex with "innumerable" people, but Mika in ch.5 said that he is his first man and "in terms of order" Mitya goes after him.
So, whaaaa? How? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Asahiko "Asa-chan"was already shown to be sleeping with Mikado "Mika", and refers to presumably selling himself to others in chap 2
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/asa_to_mitya/sa/sa-v1c002/1/
But presumably he thinks of Dmitry "Mitya" as being his first actual relationship, meaning he is the only one that counts.
Chap 5 & 6 have more of their story
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/barairo_no_kenkyuu_to_hanakurafu_kimi/
You mean in the period between when that unckle left him and him meeting Mikado? Before those girls led him to that bar? So unckle left him some money-->those money got used up--->he started selling himself--->then he met Mikado? Then why did Mikado say that he was his first man? oO
That kind of confuses me x) Maybe he was meant to say that he was his first boyfriend?
Yeah, I've read those chapters first and only then saw that there is an actual manga about Asa and Mitya)
Having re-read it, I think I made a mistake. The timeline appears
- Asahiko's parents die
- Asahiko goes to live with an older family member, he gets upset over his feelings for him and starts to wander about the streets. Using up whatever money he had with him.
- He gets picked up by Mika's friends
- Mika and him sleep together, and Mika appears violent
- Asahiko is now a drifter and rarely goes to secondary school. On the rare day he does he goes to the roof and sees Dimitri (who assumes he is going to jump). Asahiko, plainly asks him if gay (too) and so begins their relationship.
- They are then shown 6 years later, living together.
- In the next volume Mika is shown getting married to the dark long haired man that he has too known since secondary, and was also shown amid Mika's group of friends when Asahiko was with them.
Whether Asahiko slept with more people other than Mika, before he met Mitya wasn't shown. I made an error saying he sold himself when he was getting picked up by Mika's friends. I guess Asa-chan regardless of his previous experiences, considers Dimitri to be his "first man" as it's been the first relationship where love was involved, and it has been reciprocated.
Yeah, that is why I was (and still AM) confused - because it was never shown that he slept with anyone else except Mika and Mitya. No flashbacks, no memories, nobody ever mentioned it - only that time in the bathroom (when Mitya cut Asa-chan's hair) there was that phrase about "innumerable" people" ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ And that's it.
Oh, but I've also never seen that Asa-chan said that Mitya is his "first" anything (only that he is finally not alone and in love), that phrase about the "first man" belongs to Mika - he said it in the end of ch.5.
Mitya: "Who're you?"
Mika: "In terms of order... Guess I'd be the guy before you? Seems like I'm Asahiko's first man."
Jesus xDD I'm stuck. Maybe in the second volume Mika would say smth that will clear it all out (I wish I knew Japanese), but at the same time I doubt it x) There are some moments in this manga that are kind of "lost in translation", I guess? Or maybe it's just author's own narrative style oO
Ahh, why do I feel so sad of Fei sleeping with Mikhail? T_T And for Asami's sake! I thought he was so over him.
Ah, I love Fei x Yoh so much, especially after that novella where they've been together. And here, actually, there IS a genuine interest from the Mikh's side (towards Fei) but with Fei... It looks like he is "tolerating" it mostly (during the "act"), unlike the novella where he genuinely enjoyed being with Yoh. And Yoh T_T He probably knows what's going on inside that hotel room (or he will see), what will he do? Probably will keep his mouth shut T_T Oh, babies... WHY, Amane-sensei?! ╥____╥
*please don't mind my emotional breakdown here, I've been shipping Fei x Yoh from the very moment they appeared (prob for 7 years or more xDD)*
Love your comment!
You feel sad because you support Yoh/Fei of course. I think there is genuine interest from both sides. Fei came to Mik knowing exactly what Mik wanted and what was going to happen. He even instigated the sex by undressing first. He is definitly attracted to Mik at least sexually. Like we know he uses sex as an asset, because he's probably weary of opening himself up, so no one can betray him like Asami did.
From Mik side it doesn't even need to be said. We thought before that he only wanted to him to further his business. But the expressions on his face just before the sex and the fact the he is effectively risking his life in the hope of starting a relationship with Fei shows he holds him in higher regard than that.
*definitely ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Mikhail with fei vs yoh with fei (〜￣△￣)〜 it's really hard to choose but to be honest I'd feel quite sad if fei ends up with mikail ( they are so hot together by the way ) because it will be idk how to describe : no matter what yoh is doing for his sake he ( sempai ) will never notice him
what novella...?
He didn't sleep with Mikhail because of Asami's sake but for his own sake too. He's over him and doing willingly, not forced by anyone. But it was cruel for yoh.:(
My feeling is that Feilong somewhat still loving Asami but in a different way because it’s more of friendship-alliance type of thing they have now, especially Feilong likes Ahikito as a friend after all the stuff happen. It’s mixture of feeling I guess for Feilong. That is why he willing to help Asami since love time died down since Akihito made him face that he was in love with him all this time. In a sense, he was a bit hesitant when Mikhail told him he was willing to go this far for Asami.
Yoh definitely knows what is going on. I think he always do this type of stuff so he is use to it. I think he is like let nature takes its course with Feilong, but seeming him calling Feilong without “sama”, definitely it’s going his way. But he is definitely a very understanding guy if u also know what’s is happening up there with another big mafia guy
Feilong does use his body to get what he wants. I think this was mention in his arc hence his coldness to everything. In my heart I always believe that Asami did love Feilong but everything happen in HK (Asami is a realist after-all).
What do you guy think?
Well... I don't know honestly. Maybe there IS some interest from Fei's side but I think probably only in the sexual way, in the slightest way. He doesn't seem very into it from the beginning - he seduces him yes, but no further (especially because he doesn't really need to do it - Mikh is already interested, and Fei knows it). There is no "passion" in his movements (like in Mikhail's). And he undressed first because he would like to deal with this all quickly, I believe? oO He definitely didn't like it when Mikhail hugged him (look at his face), as I said before - it looks like he tolerates it. Fei definitely does it despite his enormous feel of pride, maybe even through clenched teeth. Can I just copy what I said to other comment? x3
Here it is:
"In the novella about him and Yoh I remember him saying that he received a lot of that kind of "offers" from a lot of people but never saw a point in doing smth like this. So I don't think he would "sell" his body even for the business' sake. He is just too proud of a man. But here...
Here, I think he knew that Mikhail is too arrogant and selfish to do smth for someone when there is no actual profit for him, no matter how much money he'd offer to him. BUT! - Fei knew that Mikhail was genuinely interested in him and it is the only thing he could offer to get him do smth about that organisation (I bet he will betray Fei, because he already IN in this shit - he met with Sudou before, smth is going on already there). So I think he did it only because there was no other option for him to make Mikhail "work" for his sake."
And yeah, Mikhail IS interested in Fei (but I doubt his interest in Fei is THAT deep and serious) - that's for sure, but he definitely didn't hope that anything could happen between them. That is especially seen by his surprised expression when Fei agrees and says "I'm quite expensive". And he KNOWS that Fei is not interested in relationship with him (I doubt he is) and only uses his body for the sake of his own profits, but let's not forget that Mikhail is also a sneeky bastard that will not do smth that will not profit HIM. I think he doesn't "cherish" this "connection" with Fei THAT much. He could easily betray their agreement - I will be not surprised if he does. All the more so he's already received what he wanted from Fei - his body. I don't think he is a man of honor, if you know what I mean? :D
But of course I've build all this theory through the prism of my love for Fei/Yoh x3 So please don't judge me too much x)
It's called "Finder no Rakuin")) There is an english translation of it somewhere on tumblr, I believe.
I don't think he will, Mikhail is too much of a bastard to Fei be able to trust him x)
And I think two bosses of mafia don't have a future together - maybe just sex but not a relationship. Their personalities would clash too much. I think that is why Fei and Asami could never end up together (even if the circumstances were different and there was no that misunderstanding that happened between them in the past) - they are just too independent and too...dominant? They both need someone who would support them AND concede to them even (I'm not sure what word to use. Whay I mean is they need someone who will be faithful to them no matter what). For Asami it is Akihito - he is from completely different world and it should has been a problem but it happened to be an advantage for them. So I think Feilong needs someone similar - someone who will be always near him - who will support him, respect him and do anything for him - and not because Fei is a boss or a incredibly hot man (lol) but because that person will see that behind this stoic and proud exterior hides big and vulnerable heart.
Well yeah I totally agree with u there's no place for feelings in business world sadly xD but I think fei doesn't want to take yoh's feelings with a serious way or idk but yoh need to move on a serious steps and levels to make their relationship happen in the other hand that blonde cock really nailed it and have the biggest possibilty to make MxF happen even for a short while xD just my op
I was going to make a topic about this exactly.
Like, yeah for me is Yoh x Fei since forever BUT a little bit of Mikhail X Fei is not so bad... but given the circunstances and all with the plot, it makes sence still i feel empty.
I've been reading the FINDER series since i was 17, this year i'll be 31 and can't belive that we still have a long way to go with this.
Exactly! totally agree with you!.
Mik knows that Fei likes Asami, he knew back on the ship and Fei confirmed it now. So maybe he does want something deeper with Fei but doesn't think there's a chance it will ever happen...? Mik probably knows that Fei is using his feelings, which is why he made it hard for Fei during the sex.. I keep thinking of Mik's face before hugging Fei, it must be painful for him :/
Oh, and I wanted to add - although it's sad (for me) to see Fei with Mikhail - it is not completely unplesant - they DO look hot. And at least Mikhail is not a complete stranger (to us and to Fei) or some bastard who would simply f*ck Fei without any care for him. He, at least, respects Fei in some way, maybe adores him even.
Aaaaw, be my bro here - I've been reading it since I was 15 and this year I will turn 26 xDD Finder always will remind me of my youth and teenage years x3
I also fear that I will probably turn 40 when it ends. And haru wo daiteita? Jesus, it's been out for SO long and is still ongoing x)
Do you think if Mik was fleshed out as a character you might like the ship more? I feel like that would be the case for many people
Nevertheless I hope he gets good character development, and soon
WUUUUTTT??? Tanto tiene esta serie???? Manita. Yo empece pero por algo todavía no me ha enganchado. Sin embargo estoy aquí porque vi los spoilers del cap 79 y siempre me ha parecido Feilong el personaje más interesante de este manga y de por deeeooosss que se ve de un hot que necesito verlo con el rusito.
Well, maybe)
I'm not THAT against Fei and Mik (I simply want Fei to be happy damn it xD). I also hope there will be GOOD character development for Mik, now he seems like a douche to me x) Idk, maybe because of that lack of the character development that I can't believe that he is that deep for Fei ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Well, and of course because old ships die HARD x)
De esta historia, es mi favorito.
Yo siempre pensé en que en el manga, de alguna manera tendria algo con Mikhail y asi sucedio pero, con la novela (Finder no Rakuin) pues cambie de parecer en shippearlos como tal.
Sin embargo no me opongo a verlos, solo que no se, queria algo mas sustancioso y tipo a los momentos hot de Asami y Akihito pero bueh, como la cosa no se dio en ese plan, pues me tengo que conformar.
Si, tiene bastante tiempo la serie, de pana pienso que llegare a los 40 y todavia se estra serializando lol.
Yeah, totally, those times were ''Countless time'' was active and Attractive Fascinante was not a private Livejournal, such times xD
Haru wo damn! i think it was updated yesterday and was surprised.
Since the contrast between the things we read now and the things of those times and the evolution of the authors of those times. I sound like a granny xDD
AH! even Honjo Rie has new series.
its right, Fei acts exactly the same way that Asami acted with him 7 years ago. he uses Mikhail's feelings to get something from him. its sad for both of them. i hope for Fei that Mikhail doesn't react like him, i mean to hate him for long.
Thanks!!
Are you a MxF fan?
Because I feel bad for Russian too.
I actually don't remember "Countless times" x) At that time I was reading manga in my native language (Russian), but I DO remember Attractive Fascinante! And Dangerous Pleasure - I think those two were "the big gangstas" of yaoi scanlation world xD Ahh, I also feel myself like an old man when I remember those times, so nostalgic (▰˘◡˘▰)
Yeah, now it's all a little bit different - all of it. But especially this whole community and stories themselves. To be honest, now I rarely get really hooked on manga - Idk, sometimes I start reading smth and only think "Naaah, I'm too old for that kind of shit" xDD As a teen I was reading EVERYTHING, but now - lol, no, I'm better take care of those nerve cells that are left after all these years of rooting for and crying over some characters x)
Honjou Rie! Omg, I remember reading her works)) I also remember how me and my friend burned for the "The best lover" (Gokujou no Koibito) by Masara Minase x3 I also loved Akira Honma's works, they are still special to me. But Finder is like an OG for me - I got into yaoi because of it))
Ooh, and I forgot to mention Kizuna by Kodaka Kazuma - omg, it was also one of my favorites! And it was first published in the year I was born (1992), can you imagine? xDD
Yes
Aahh, I love this manga so much!
It's sooo sensual and sexy (￣▽￣). I don't have anything against smut but damn - here you can see a real seduction and sexual tension WITHOUT the actual sex. Like, every time author shows them dancing together - I can't stop my lady "doner" from appearing! xD Seeing how they communicate through their eyes and bodies only - god, you can touch the tension between them with hands! Being able to portray smth like this - I must give the author my loud applause!
Also - I can't get enough of how Sugiki gets sexier and sexier with every chapter. Just comparing him with his own self from the beginning of the story - damn, such a great character development!
I wonder why so many people hate Shou so much And especially why Iwaki-san hates him so much
Maybe he is afraid that Katou will be stolen by a younger version of himself..
┐(´д｀)┌
Well, if you read the latest chapter it clearly shows that Iwaki cares for Shou and doesn’t want to hurt him by not replying to his message .
I don't think Iwaki hates Shou. I think he just doesn't know how to deal with him. Shou isn't a cute kid with sparkling eyes full of innoncence who appeared one day in front of Iwaki. He's an adult, sexually active and an attractive man with a strong spirit. Plus, as Shou is close to Katou, I think Iwaki is a littje jealous. It's irrational but it's like that.
I really thinks Iwaki cares for Shou. But he had bad relationships with his own father and was a little harsh with his brother. I think he just really doesn't know how to act with Shou.
Iwaki doesn't hate Should, he acted like that because the boy started to act up, saying mean things and stuff when Iwaki was excited of having a son but when he heard the boy talking like that he didn't let him know how much his words affected him so.he retorted back and made it seem as if he hates when obviously he doesn't.
Kato doesn't hate him either, he is simply jealous: he doesn't want a kid to take away IwakixKato' precious time together.
Oh, okay guys. I only NOW noticed that my comment was cut off in the middle
I wanted to say that I don't understand why he is hated and thought of as a sneaky guy who is sleeping his way to the top while he actually slept with that Chiba-asshole-san to protect the secret about his connection to Iwaki. And to take the responsibility for his actions. I honestly feel so sad for him - he looks so lonely and lost to me. And that scene in the hotel room where he was lying on the bed and crying- idk, expression on his face broke my heart
Aaaah...*sighs*
It’s all ok, but MAAAAN, “you’re also wet from behind”. Wtf? Assholes don’t self lubricate, c’mon x)) I thought yaoi manga with this kind of line disappeared into oblivion a long time ago x)
Bruh, I was originally going to comment this, too. It's yaoi magic, lolol.
I agree It's yaoi magic
That only happens to omegas un omegaverse stories (≧∀≦)
In*
You have to immerse yourself in the YAOI realm. Real world logic does not exist here.
Lol, ikr xDD
I’ve been reading yaoi manga for about 13 years now but I haven’t seen this type of “magic” in a looong time, that’s why I thought “pheeew, those types of “mistakes” are finally gone” and ta-daaaa here it is x)