But genuinely am I the only one who kind of hates it when everyone around the FL is only close to her, but somehow dislikes everyone else the FL is friends with or close to?
Like dude y'all are students- why tf are y'all pretending to be all emo around FL? Can we never have a manhwa where the people around FL also get along cordially with each other?
oh fr i hate this "nice only to me/fl" trope like pls stop
And it's genuinely so cringe
Like they don't even have any definitive reason to hate her other friends or anything
To be fair, Arison was well established to be kind of a sick to everyone before this,
To be fair, Arison was well established to be kind of a dick to everyone before this.
No no not just him, it's just the fact that no one who's close to the FL is close to the other people around FL, which is weird cause a lot of them meet each other around the FL right?
Fair point
Ngl true.... Can they get a personality other than riding the mc's dick
The witch is absolutely adorable and I swear I will burn the entire town to the ground for her
I know that Sayuri used to be arrogant and a bully, but so did that other pink haired girl, but they don't treat her that bad-??
And literally why are the teachers so hell bent on trying to bring her down instead of changing her for the better?? Like y'all are adults trying to do petty shit with a child who's in the wrong, instead of fulfilling your duties as a teacher and try to correct her ways?
Man this is 100% written by a Male
THIS DUDE GOT A CRUSH ON MC AND ALSO LIKES DIANA AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE BRO PICK A SIDE PROPERLY
Like he understands Diana is lacking and incompetent and hestia is doing the right thing by severing dead weights, but he won't let her do that cause Diana needs to be protected-
LIKE DUDE YOU'RE THE CROWN PRINCE AND DIANA IS CAUSING INTERNATIONAL PROBLEMS, YOU CAN'T PRIORITISE A PINK MONKEY IN HER HEAT CYCLE OVER THE COUNTRY FFS (PS i know monkeys don't have heat cycle)
Honestly I'll be frank here, these two do not work well and I would much rather that they break up. Clearly Haesol doesn't harbour special romantic feelings, or even if she did, they're her own twisted version of love, which is not good for Yeonwoo.
Haesol is not in the mindspace to care for someone in a relationship, especially not someone like Yeonwoo who needs much more attention and reassurance than your average person because of his traumatic past.
If I had to compared, Haesol is like ice, someone who is really cool and calm on the outside but unfeeling inside (may be because of her past but I can't say for sure), while Yeonwoo is like a flame that needs love and assurance to keep burning. Both clearly enjoy how the other is different from them, but now that they've gotten too close to each other, they're hurting each other
Please just break up. Neither is ready to be emotionally vulnerable nor are they ready to sacrifice at times to make a relationship work. A relationship can't work on hopes and dreams and clearly neither of them is ready to actually put in effort into finding a compromise
I was reading the manhua and some panels look ai generated...
Well i don't think I will continue reading it honestly, i just can't like the use of ai
See I'll be honest, these plots are always good but logically speaking if someone genuinely lived 9 lives, then do you really think they would want revenge? Cause to me it seems if someone like that could choose peace and just simply leave the country, it would be perfect
Because who in their right mindset would still want to be wrapped up in petty politics AFTER 9 LIVES?!
Idk I just always find it odd they never show the woman leaving the country and embarking on a journey to find true peace.
Of course this story is still really good though- that goes without saying
Tbh I understand you and agree with you, I find negative emotions like anger extremely exhausting and wouldn't be able to do it. I also think people share diffefent views and experience things differently, so I can't say people who are like Julia don't exist - people who can live for revenge and keep at it.
I'd also like to point out that it's (technically) more correct to say she died 9 times, rather than she had 9 lives, as we don't know how long she lived in most of them and how much time has actually passed for her. We do know that her first death happened a day to a week from the "safe point", as she had gone back and easily murdered.
(Ofc it's okay to call them past lives, but we have to remember they were never FULL lives. We don't know much time she has actually lived through, and I think keeping up with revenge also makes more sense when we assume each life took a different amount of time until she died and started over.
That's why ppl say forgiveness is not something what every person can do. She still hate everyone who killed her in her 8 lives. Her mind is consume with grudge and she become just like the same person who make her die for 8 times. Between a Saint and Devil she chose to be a devil. That's why ML said he doesn't like her smile.I believe she choose to get away from her ex between her 8 lives but still die and repeating again. If not it doesn't make sense how she know about pirates and other country royal affairs.
I would argue that it does, though. She didn't want revenge only on the ex, but his whole family, and we are reminded time and time again how powerful that family is in their country. She wanted to bring them down, and she would need political power in order to do so. Of course she would start paying attention to the details of things that happen (which so far have been political) when she started to form her plans to destroy the family. We also know that she is very intelligent, and even was close friends with a prince's lady-in-waiting/personal maid in at least one of her past lives, which is nothing to scoff at. She might have an excellent memory and an eye for detail, which would've helped her retain information.
Plus, when you're repeating your life multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised that you would start to memorise exact dates with important events.
I think it depends on what kind of person you are, the magnitude of the wrong and also your sense of justice. I'm the opposite. The idea of knowing the people who wronged me are living well and happy would grate at me forever. If you can't die regardless, why not get revenge and then move on happily with your life? I do kind of agree that its a looong time to hold a grudge but its a very serious grudge lol
Saaame. I feel like after 9 lives I would still want revenge. I think I will get tired of it and be numb emotionally but still wouldn't want them to live well. Plus, they aren't good people and killed the orphans (which are like family to the FL), if I'm capable of bringing out evidence, I'll still try to get revenge.
If you remember what she said in chapter 2, she tried to move on. It is just that damn family who still pursue her till the end. She has no choice. She won't live peacefully if that family is alive and well and have enough time and tenacy to kill her. If she will be going to be hunted anyway, might as well fight back.
Though she failed several times, her grudge deepen and that's why she was able to memorized the event. Try and try until you die.
I'm not really talking about this story in particular, but more so of this genre
Like I've seen so many people get reincarnated 100+ times, but they will still try to get revenge or maybe TRY to run away but they never actually do
Like I'm just saying, but mentally I don't think many would have mental capacity left to keep living a shit life filled with petty politics after dying brutally many a times.
I agree I feel like if i went through 100+ or even 9 lives and in each of those lives i have been miserable, i have tried to be kind I've tried to run away and they got to be happy thinking "yay shes gone" i feel like in order to feel peace in my soul they have to miserable at least once they'll never be able to feel the pain of going through 9 lives but its still so messed up for them to be happy
the reason why they never run away is because the people who are writing these stories write for basically 1 out of 2 reasons. To make a quick profit off of the newest trend (these reincarnation revenge manwhas) or to feel a minuscule sense of closure and relief for whatever type of injustice they faced in their life . Or both. These stories are usually a way to vent for people, for the author and also the people reading them. And someone who has to go to petty reincarnation revenge manwha to feel better probably hasn’t done the healing yet to move on, to seek true peace as you have said.
But i agree! i’d love to see something where the mc reaches happiness and peace, something like vinland saga where they develop as a character
The probability that kind of plot to be interesting is incredibly low though.
um when she go backs in time she is already being hunted down they even made the reference where she wanted to give up revenge but hyenas still assassinated her
I've said this before but I'm saying this again
One, I'm not just talking about this story, but this reincarnation multiple times genre itself
And second, if they wanted to make a story where she runs away, they would have. The hyenas and everything are all there so that it's going to be a revenge centric plot, not one where she runs away. The hyenas not letting her escape is a plot device that shows she exhausted everything and is a consequence of the predetermined revenge plot.
I see you're talking about this whole genre but honestly repeatedly coming back alive type of immortality is nothing but the worse curse a human could possibly have. Even if she runs away like author decided to just make a plot on that kind of story and she still comes back alive later without Hyenas or without her being exhausted by any other external factor. i wonder, how boring her life would have been. So I think this whole genre about "multiple cannot die reincarnation" is just the character being frustrated of immortality and is trying to lift this curse by closing the part of their life that may have possibly triggered it.
(sorry for my bad english)
It's clear whatever happened to both of them, one with their family and the other in their middle school, was really traumatic and of course it goes without saying that both of them will find it hard to open up about it
However at the same time they're both envious of the other person's close friend with whom they're comfortable sharing it with, which is not them. It's a form of jealousy and anxiety as well.
From haesol's pov it's normal to be wary of yeonwoo's bestfriend because they did have a very odd relationship of mutual dependance. However she did not know how to approach it properly and ended up being toxic and manipulated the friendship. She's concerned and jealous on one hand and on the other hand she's not ready to open up about her trauma either. This is a tough combination to work with
Yeonwoo on the other hand is concerned about haesol but he too isn't in the mindset to be able to share his trauma as well. However he too wants to know herself
They're both curious but aren't comfortable yet to reveal the cards in their hands, which is leading to the friction in the relationship.
At least they are talking it out and having a confrontation over it, which is far better than avoiding the topic forever and bottling all the feelings
Well said
yeah thank you very well said +1
I just noticed that in the last panel of chapter 5 the director has a small bow tied to his goatee
YESSSS that’s sooo cute broooo
He just wanted to feel croquette
Frfr
I'm ngl as much as I want to like the story, i just can't gloss over the sexual harrasment by the mc. Like he literally just groped someone's chest without any prior information and also keeps using people for his convenience
Idk if my standards are too high or if I'm overreacting, but i just feel like it's extremely uncomfortable at those times
I see where you are coming from but with that first instance. Wasn’t it the guy who put his hands there? Or am I wrong. I’m gen curious