Just something I thought about. Debate welcomed, I personally believe that while gay marriage is in the works it will take a LONG time, due to other problems Japan must fix first. It will be a big societal and political jump that I'm sure the government doesn't believe it's citizens can handle. There is a small minority of LGBT people in Japan, and their issues are being put on a backburner for a much later date. Now, how BL works into this? Tbh I feel like it has no real significance, as it is just a woman's fantasy. But any dumbass that doesn't know that, and takes BL into truth thinking that guys rape each other and fall in love every 3 seconds.....now there's the problem. Share your opinions!!
I agree with yo bro on everything he said. Although I'd like to add that there are some BL that have significance as it blends realistic hardships and struggles that gay people face in their daily lives that can shine some light on the discrimination towards them.
I was watching a show about LGBT communities around the world and they did an episode on Japan.
I found it super interesting because they were talking about the bl/fuji community and even talked to some fuji's. They did this whole interview with them and they just got silent and awkward when talking about gay people in real life. They said that they find it 'weird' that people wanted to marry someone of the same sex. Yet they didn't find it strange to be reading bl. There is this wall for some people between bl and the lgbtq+ community. I know that a lot of people get married secretly in Japan. I just hope that it won't take too long for gay marriage to be legalized there.
It will be an unpopular opinion, but have little patience for the people who promote the "uke" and "seme" stereotypes, because they do, like it or not, represent wider issues of homophobia in Asia. So one one hand, yes it's positive that LGBT stories and characters are being represented to some extent in Japan, China and S.K, but when the major representation is promoting these homophobic tropes and unrealistic plots, combined with societal prejudice and not being able to have the same rights as enjoyed elsewhere, like being able to adopt children or get married, the context of this genre at times isn't exactly always positive. There is also the issue with the objectification of people who are gay, and an another odd thing is when people either treat adult men like they are children, or give them female pronouns which comes off as a bit demeaning.
Basically, it means they are fine with LGBT people being used as entertainment, and stereotyped, but are against or uncomfortable with LGBT people having equal rights in law, and no longer being treated as this novelty or something to mock. Yet any criticism of the whole "fujoshi" thing gets shot down here.
I don't think BL is the only harmful thing, not it is the biggest. The representation of LGBT+ in Japan and in manga (in general) is not great and are most shown as comic relief in TV and series. Gengoroh Tagame have publish a manga about gay issues "My brother's husband" in a seinen magazine and it's actually a great step, but it's not sufficent. There is not enough space to talk about those things.
There's this book (you can find it on myreadingmanga) called Gay erotic manga and the men who make it. It was really interesting to read all the interviews.
I'm sure Japan will eventually make gay marriage legal.. the only problem is that it is not widely accepted. Either they despise it to the full extent, or they simply don't understand why one can fall for the same sex.
As for BL.. well, I guess, in the way I see it, based on the people on this site, will make them feel some sort of "pity" or sorrow for their hardships, while at the same they don't actually understand the LGBT+ community, seeing as BL does not accurately display the relationship between men well.
It'll create some sort of false understanding of gay relationships, if they read a lot of it they might start thinking they completely understand the LGBT+ (when really they just find it hot or whatever).
Like some people on this site have mentioned, fetishization is quite common, whether you believe that or not. Same with GL.
The matter and process in itself is quite complicated. It COULD be done with the help of BL & GL but not in the right manner/mindset.
definitely agree w/ what you've said but i also do understand that whilst many people enjoy bl (fujis) they may view at as purely fictional and have more restrictive views on the issue in real life (as rae air pointed out before) so yeah ur def right that it's gonna take lots of time before the lgbtq+ community will get full rights (asia) on things like marriage and kids and stuff
I dont see how people can read bl/yaoi and at the same time be off put by the lgbt community in real life. Like are you for real??
( The same thing can be said for reading about murder or something similar in media but there is a distinct line between that and this.)
Shouldn't we really start contacting the admins on Mangago about this spam stuff? Seems like the anonymity of this site is what's really killing us. There should really just be a report button added to the comments/profiles in case of events like these. Σ( ￣□￣||)
Yeah, this really needs to stop. At this point I think they might make it so people have to login and if that's the case then I'll make an account.
Whoa I heard a lot of people talking about mangago problems yesterday although it was working fine for me. Now it's not loading them at all (￣∇￣") must be some kind of bug that's spreading around.
same ╥﹏╥
Same its stressing me out!! It worked completely fine for me all day yesterday until just this morning. I also have an adblocker so I thought I'd be safe but guess not ╥﹏╥
It really seems like more of a site issue than an ad issue since I'm not getting any popup ads, thankfully. I just hope the devs care enough about this issue to solve it, otherwise there's not gonna be much activity on this site in the future. Until it's fixed I'll have to use myreadingmanga for now, which blows...
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I added an ad blocker as an extension. Now I have to use Windows edge but it's a small price to pay(〜￣△￣)〜
yeah I figured it was a site issue but people in previous post were saying that the ad pop ups were what was messing up the site...I just hope they get it fixed bc I prefer mangago over myreadingmanga too :/
anybody know the manga these guys are from?
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/itoshii_akuma/mh/c004/2/
cock-a-leekie soup and swiss roll. thanks!
following
the cock-a-leekie soup is here
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/giocatore_hokaku_keikaku/an/giocatore-hokaku-keikaku-chapter-7.html/22/
this manga is a bunch of oneshots
the swiss roll looks like it might be one of sakira sensei's works, i'll look into it a bit more
thanks! ヾ(☆▽☆)
what are some really shitty yaoi you've read? and why were they so bad? curious (￣∇￣")
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/aoi_haru_kai_ito/ this one is popular but i hated it. xD i just think it's really dumb
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kichiku_megane/ dumb
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/solo_sex/ dumb
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/master/ dumb
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/prisoner_kaen/ dumb
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/michiru_heya/ another popular one that i found really dumb
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wow! reading all of these kinda made my brain cells disappear.. amazing! (￣∇￣")
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/ryoute_ni_darling/
Probably the dumbest one I've read. Like the uke nearly gets forced into having sex with one of the guys and he still let's him live with him because the uke loves cake and the dude who nearly fucked him can make cake. I didn't reread it because it was just so dumb in general. The plot is basic and it's not in the least interesting so I don't really understand why a lot of people liked it?!
i thiught this was really funny LOL
I can't remember the name of it but here is what happens:
Some guy (ukes ex I think?) renters the picture. The uke has kinda found someone else and moved on. Ex rapes the uke. Now here is the kicker. The ex is either married or going to get married. His wife is pregnant. Let me repeat that. He has a pregnant woman. The uke shrugs the rape off, forgives the guy, moves on with his new guy, and the rapist ex goes back to the pregnant woman and remains with her. No punishment, no nothing. He gets away with it and he gets a family
good lord..that kind of plot isnt even worth reading >.< and people liked it?? wtf??
Oh mah god be happy you dont remember the title, atleast you can move on from that kinda shitty story #－.－) it really pisses me off when some asshole who rapes the uke or seme suddenly gets some happy ending or some nice family. like no, you deserve to suffer, fuck you. (︶︿︶)＝凸 that truly is a shitty yaoi!! not even worth remembering the name of!
feeling pretty depressed, got any really cute and funny yaoi?
nar kiss
thanks (▰˘◡˘▰)
All of these made me lol at least once:
http://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/124326/
Love neko
Need help finding this manga, It's in full color (i think?) and is about these two officers that go into this bar. The menu has sexual names as its drinks. (ex blowjob for a drink lol). Basically it ends with one of the officers getting gangbanged because that's what he "ordered" and the other officer helps himself too ;)
Thanks ヾ(☆▽☆)
Yes thats it thank you!
Being in full color made the yaoi even more explicit and smuttyლ(´ڡ`ლ)
I'm in need of some sexy smutty vampire yaoi mangas!! Who's got 'em!?! (⊙◞౪◟⊙)
Hmmm...the only yaoi vampire manga I know of are:
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/dia_game/
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/deep_bloody_night/
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kohitsuji_project/
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/koyoi_wa_kimi_to_chi_no_kisu/
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kamu_otoko/
That's mostly what I've read. This list might help though!
http://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/723/?filter=&page=1
THANKS!!(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Thank you!!! xD
It's about this uke and seme who are dating, and the uke loves roleplaying. The chapter starts off with the uke seemingly being 'raped' but it turns out to be just another roleplay with the boyfriend (seme) acting as the 'rapist'. I think it was a comedy? i'm not sure. I want to reread it, so if you know the title please let me know!
Thanks!!(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/henai_maotoko_hen/ ((maybe this))
It's this one! Thank you both for replies!! Now I have a new roleplay manga to read aswell (≧∀≦)
actually this henai maotoko hen is the sequel to this manga http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/henai/
Hello please help me find this manga, it was about a delinquent boy who always visited a flower shop because his crush is the owner and works there. He calls him "bro" and admires him. The owner also has a sister and the plot twist is that the owner was actually an ex-yakuza. It's non-rapey, comedic, and the art is so good!!!! Thanks in advance!
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/koi_made_hyakurin/
Thanks! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~