No but fr I feel seen by this in a way I've been trying to explain to others for years but I still don't fully understand. Bravo!!! I really needed this.
I think it's very funny that if the MCs are probably the most mentally unstable bitches know to their school. (mental illness isn't what makes their relationship so unhealthy it's mostly miscommunication and lack of understanding) I feel like if the friend group finds out their dating the most the friends would do is be like "Oh shit we're fucked cause you bitches crazy" not "what? Gay people?!? You?!?"
Also I personally think Cirrus has BPD and idk what meds Skyler was taking at the beginning but he might be bipolar? Or he has severe anxiety or OCD or even all of them. It's kinda interesting that it's not the mental illness making them so unhealthy as much as it's them being bad at love coupled with mental illness exacerbating both.
Anyways the way they are so toxic to each other in such an imaginable way (they're characters it's not realistic but I can imagine myself as them) it kinda makes all the sweet parts fall flat... like where did all this chemistry come from without build up? But I am intrigued.
so heavy on him having bpd. glad it wasnt just me who thought this
Omg couldn't have said it better XD
Definitely felt the same way like you when I first read this manhwa
I recommend rereading it
It's one of those stories you read at first and have an face value opinion about it since you weren't expecting that from a webtoon
Sometimes you gotta analysis it too but there are people in the community who love this manhwa they share their own analysis on it
It might help you understand or like the story and characters more
(I've reread it like 5+ times and always learning or noticing something new)
Oh and also you seem pretty on point with your own suspicions of mental illness of the characters
I'm not for one who likes to "diagnose" or HC mental illnesses onto characters but I heard a lot of people agree Cirrus has BPD
Idk about Skylar but I heard people's theory is that he's is getting treated for PTSD
Hope that helps with your own analysis ^^
Neat yeah you're right. Both on Skylar maybe having PTSD and the fact that it's a little weird to HC people with mental illness. Especially since there are real people who deal with these conditions that are not characters in abusive relationships, don't act out violently, and can FRIGGIN communicate!!! (I'm not mad ). But also what is the DSM5 but a list of 2D personality traits meant to be prescribed as labels to explain the mental state of someone to make it easier for doctors and psychologists? (Don't answer that I'm indeed bonkers)
Also weird reference/connection but when Skylar went went "Maybe you could date me?" To Cirrus it gave me direct flashbacks to SAO Abridged when the main character after having sex for the first time asks his friend if she wants to get married. And that's my weird reference for today.
The story is NOT toxic
what?! cirrus is like a parasite living off of skylar.
Have u fucking read the story?!
(could not respond to have u fucking read the story) have u?? their communication is ass and as soon as they’re mad they act irrationally. cirrus p much NEEDS skylar to feel content and he would do anything to keep him with him. so far from healthy bro
This is actually really interesting story telling but it does drag on a lot. I love how the characters have separate drives. It honestly has me rooting for all the characters to fulfill their dreams and get what they need. We're almost never told who a character is but show through their actions which is the kind of nuance I eat up. Also there isn't really a linear storyline kinda like how living goes. Characters repeat their past often trying to avoid it and it's really beautiful. When the characters are acting out their flaws they avoid the tropes well by sticking to their characters.
Also it does a really wonderful job showing the stigma in the queer community with being in the closet. Especially with showing both sides. The struggle that is being in a relationship with someone who isn't ready to let others know and the struggles of keeping up a relationship in the shadows without treating it as if it's forbidden. It also doesn't fetishize the "forbidden" aspect of the relationship, but instead shows the reality of it. The shame isn't sexy it's suffocating and all encompassing. The idea that you could lose your family because of who you love is an experience that is extremely isolating.
Also I high-key feel bad for and relate to the MC's Ex. Like I haven't dated someone who isn't out but quite a lot of my friends aren't out and they've told me about their fears of losing the connections they had to their families. Which always felt foreign to me as a person who grew up in a liberal home, because they literally don't care as long as I'm not breaking laws, self harming or being abused. Honestly younger me was very much similar to the MC's ex, like "How scary could a classical Lit Professor be?" Levels of not understanding why my friends weren't out. I only really started to get it after the heartstopper actor situation and being in the closet as a trans person at work. But I think I feel bad for the MC's Ex because he wasn't enough for him. ┗( T﹏T )┛
Anyway I'm completely ok. I just think this writing is actually really interesting.
As much as I want to see the dad get his ass handed to him. I love that he's there and that the dad being there brings out the worst qualities in the characters. Like Sohan's avoidant attachment style and Sihwa's lack of knowledge on emotions and relationships. I love how we already lightly established the character flaws in the first season then fleshed it out with more backstory and a greater look at how these characters work. We don't just get the random guy next door who looks around the corner with the freaking grimace smile everytime he leaves the main character's view. You get the main character's dad who isn't maniacally laughing every five minutes but in some sense genuinely concerned about his son in his own fucked up way. Also the characters each have their own problems that are individual to them not emblematic of the generic kink that is "forbidden love" that a lot of yaoi's fall into. The enemy isn't that their love is wrong or forbidden but that they're people and people fuck up. Also the way they weave exposition and emotions into the sex scene is quite beautiful. Like each sex scene is kinda unique, used to build the relationship between Sihwa and Sohan and the characters that they are with each other especially with the last sex scene which honestly was chef's kiss. But it was Sohan's way of showing that he still cared, and a way to have fun without his asshole of a father. Also I can't wait until Gabin has his arc. And this bitch be cookin and I'm so ready to eat I'm in literal pain fr.
As a trans guy Imma have to say.
1. This is a pretty interesting way to view gender Dysphoria. Like if we consider the transformation as less literally turning into a girl as much as how gender Dysphoria feels it's not all the time but it's pretty often. Sometimes it's just adapting to how others see you and other times it's working against that, but it's generally exhausting.
2. If this was about hormones, then the doctor should have put him on Testosterone
3. Also Semen doesn't contain Testosterone (or at least enough to be significant so no, sex is not free hrt) but I guess we need to have a dumb smut reason for the gender changes...but I'm not complaining
4. If that pill existed
As someone who's genderfluid, I WISH I had that pill. It'd be so awesome to go from male to female, back and forth
I’d die for that. Our world sucks like why can’t we have magic, pills and whatever else that would allow us to that
I realized like Baek and Sihwa are opposites personality-wise but also story-wise, especially in how they experience rejection and jealousy. Like when Baek met his mom and she was having a good life he just left, while when Sihwa sees Baek interacting with anyone positively he gets jealous. Or that Sihwa is desperately trying to regain a connection to his family while Baek is trying to cut his family off.
Wait so they went to the market...how good is this shelter? Are they self sustaining? Do they have farming or is it just scavenging? You're telling me they got currency? I kinda wanna know what's up with the shelter, like bitches got vaccines and hospitals obviously but food is another thing....or did they just steal the food from a nearby convenience store?
Things went back to normal. The competition scene with ML winning doesn't seem to be a dream that happened cus he just got back from being interviewed for it.
Eunha is aromantic so he'll never fall in love with the MC and he's just fucking with him because he's not asexual and he's an asshole. (No shade against non-asexual aromantic people)
1. I'm invested enough to wonder what happens next.
2. I love how the narrator (mc) is like "racism doesn't exist anymore" and then gets continually racially profiled (and continually racially profiles people). Racism isn't funny... but we love some cognitive dissonance and biased perspectives.
Everyone knows Obama banned racism in 2009 /j
The only way I want this is if the blonde sluts (affectionate) and the main character end up in a throple/ open polycule. I love problematic characters, I don't condone there actions.