Soo-won being so interested in zeno gives me the heebie jeebies.
Soo-won sucks but his hair is really pretty
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Inbeom didn't deserve what happened to him. He just really needed a little therapy.
"This type of behavior is usually compulsive – it is difficult for a person to control. The intrinsic need of the ego to protect itself and prevent others from seeing and experiencing what they are really feeling comes from a place of self-preservation rather than one of dishonesty. The reaction formation behavior can become obsessive, with the individual becoming argumentative and defensive if challenged or questioned.
Reaction formation as a defense mechanism is an unconscious reaction as opposed to a conscious response. An impulsive reaction can be hard to control as compared to a measured and considered response at the best of times. There are many factors at play — a person’s identity or their sense of self, their feelings of acceptance within their community and their overall self-esteem."
https://www.depressionalliance.org/reaction-formation/
He's a poor sweet sad boy and no one should hurt him anymore. (and yes he shouldn't hurt anyone else either ╥﹏╥)
This is insane.
He CONSCIOUSLY beat Seungtaek, he consciously bullied his cousin, consciously beat Kyubin because he was jealous of his relationship with Seungtaek. He did it to make other people feel as weak and as worthless as he did on the inside. He said this himself. So why are you coming up with some fake diagnosis that completely contradicts what the author wrote? This fanfic that you Inbeom fans write is really disturbing because you’re all just pulling shit from your ass to justify why you don’t want to hold him accountable for his action. This is how parents raise a rotten kid they deflect blame and insist they're just a sweet poor kid and other people should just treat them better.
All of these boys come from a troubled home in one way or another. Kyubin literally lost his entire immediate family and didn’t go around assaulting people. Inbeom is not a good person and needs to learn how to better channel his rage and feelings of inadequacy/abandonment. He needs more than “a little therapy”. Don’t try to minimize what he did to Seungtaek, that was targeted and repeated assault.
Well written.
Reaction formations are not a diagnosis they are a type of defense mechanism that all people can and do use. They perfectly explain inbeom's pattern of destructive behavior towards himself and the person that he liked. I thought it would be interesting for people to know that it is a real psychological phenomenon that has a name. The fact that Inbeom's behavior actually aligns well with a heavily studied pattern of human behavior, in my opinion, only shows how great the writer is. Because instead of making him generically violent and not attempting to uncover the unconscious reasons for his violence, they created a very nuanced and accurate portrayal of a troubled teenager. He behaves the way that many real people also behave. The idea of boys picking on the girls they like or homophobes actually being closeted comes from Freudian theories such as this. This theory explains why people like inbeom self sabotage, namely because they never developed good coping strategies for feelings of sadness or shame, etc. Some people like Kyubin do have those coping strategies and so even after intense feelings (i.e the grief of losing one's family) they don't lash out.
Therapy teaches people how to develop those strategies. For inbeom's case he could talk about feeling embarrassed that he was seen crying and a therapist could help him work through that to learn that it is okay for him to feel and to express his emotions, and that doing so doesn't make one seem weak. He would learn to accept himself and not feel the shame and not feel the need to show seungtaek and the world that he doesn't cry, doesn't feel, and by extension isn't weak. His aggression towards seungtaek stemmed from a place of self preservation when there was no need for him to feel threatened in the first place. Also it's " a little therapy" because it can be surprising how effective early interventions can be in a short amount of time especially in a young person without any comorbid mental illnesses.
If you don't think therapy was a good solution for inbeom's self hatred and aggressive compensatory behaviors what is the solution? As you said in therapy he could learn how to channel his rage and feelings of inadequacy (or better yet release him from them) by teaching him better coping strategies.
Inbeom has shown a great capacity for kindness and a desire for love and friendship. He could be taught to correct his behavior and actually receive those things. I don't think having the life nearly beaten out of him is the best way to do that. Saying that inbeom didn't deserve the terrible things that happened to him doesn't mean I'm justifying the terrible things he did. It means that I don't believe violence should beget more violence. It's okay to have compassion for people who have done bad things and it's okay to want them to help them become better people.
It’s become a common trend for people to focus more on what Inbeom ‘doesn’t” deserve, rather than find out WHY he did what he did. The major focus was always on how badly Seungtaek beat him up ( even though Inbeom beat him just as badly) and how sad it is that he lost his memories.
I definitely agree with you that compassion is necessary but compassion shouldn’t be mistaken for enabling. Also when I said “ more than a little”, I said so in response to your wording that seemed to have brushed off how severe his issues are that lead him to assaulting his classmate. He needs ongoing therapy to deal with his abandonment and internalized homophobia. A singular friendship does show his potential to change, but we also have to keep in mind that Seunghee never posed a threat to Inbeom. Seungtaek and his own cousin Suhyeok triggered his feelings of worthlessness, so how can we truly know he has changed? I don’t hate this character though, he’s an interesting one and a type of character I like to read. I just wish the reading of him wasn’t shallowed by enabling fans blaming everyone but Inbeom for the issues he caused.
Obviously because this is a manhwa, it’s not that serious especially because it’s a more lighthearted one. But kids like Inbeom need structure just as much as they need compassion. The fact that he has no one to correct him and instill positive values is a part of his struggle with abandonment. He pushes and pushes his recklessness to assert the fact that he is alone and worthless and no one cares enough to push him to be better. It’s self-inflicting pain.
I can't stand the idea of being somebody's second choice. Loving someone who doesn't love you as much is just too lonely.
Well aren’t you in for a ride
wow I was more unprepared to meet taesung's ex right now than haebom
Taekyung wields a lot of power over Siyeon and it's not good. Not only is Taekyung is his boss, but he also extremely wealthy, and does illegal/violent things regularly. It would be easy for Taekyung to control, manipulate, or hurt Siyeon. In fact he's already done all of those things. He doesn't let him have privacy (no door) and wont let him have a life separate from him (no part-time job, treats his friends poorly). He's already even assaulted him (yes he didn't know who it was but its still messed up). This situation is just too dangerous. If Siyeon were a friend, I would tell him to run. Handsome faces don't last forever and sex can't fix every problem
The job itself too, Siyeon has been killing very high profile people. Eventually a person or org. with just as much money as Taekyung will figure out Siyeon's identity. Who knows what they might do.
siyeon try to tell him he dislike killing ppl tho he’s a hitman. He’s a kind person. He said he accepted the job bcause he has no choice but now he have “a choice” (got rich bf) but nothing changed. That rich bf still wants him to do killing job. I feel sad for him. Its a burden to him..
I agree to much of a burden on him. He is a sweet dumpling that deserves the best in life.
so true
I think we should be grateful for the new translator for trying. It's hard work and lord knows I wouldn't be great at it either. I also think it was right to take them down if we know that correct translations will be put up instead. I'd like to read blood link not almost blood link, but if the alternative is nothing then almost blood link does suffice.
you were very thoughtful of what you said. i actually talked to @gloss (one of the original translators) in the comments section & she seemed really upset about this whole situation. this is all just a huge misunderstanding on everyone's part including the new translator who probably had good intentions of wanting to help out. i hope this won't stress anyone out b/c we all just want to read this beautiful story.
she was experiencing similar issues with the K's Secret manhwa! sorry about that!(づ￣ ³￣)づ
Critique =engagement. It means people are interested and passionate about understanding story. It means people are paying attention and not just passively looking. Its possible to critique something you actually really like. This is a good story but it could be a great story. There's nothing wrong with saying that some things in a story just aren't working. I think part of the issue is that it feels like wasted potential. If a story starts out amazing but overtime gets worse its unrealistic to expect people not to notice or care. Especially when its obvious what's going wrong. A once great story that gets a little lost can with constructive criticism easily become a great story again. It's important that people understand that criticism of a work =/= criticism of a person. Learning how to give and to accept constructive criticism is important for personal growth. Nothing ever gets better when we pretend there are no problems at all. I am not helping or hurting the writer by voicing these opinions on mangago. The comment section is a platform for readers to comment on the work. What is the point of all of us disingenuously pretending there are no issues with the story?
Personally, its clear to me that the current couple doesn't have the same chemistry as our first couple and waiting so many weeks for resolution sucks. Very little seems to happen in the chapters that focus on the new couple. If you asked me to summarize what happened in this chapter I'm not sure I could. I'm not very interested in the basic tsundere uke archetype, it's cliched. Also we barely know anything about uncle pan so I find him unrelatable. Overall the second couple feels more generic and boring. (I also don't care for large age gaps but this is a lesser complaint). I'd much rather know about the main characters who are better written, because they are more complex and their relationship is more unique, nuanced, and romantic. I am way more invested in their story while I couldn't care less for the second couple.
I shouldn't have to ignore this story's problems just because other stories are worse, because there are also stories that are better. Don't fault us for being disappointed it currently isn't one of the better ones. We are still here because we are hoping it will be again soon.
Exactly.
True and while I feel like the main couple could be progressing... the introduction of the second couple drags it. Because we’re going over 80 chapters emotionally invested in their story and I really don’t mind the slow burn, y’see.
But to add a second couple makes you wonder if they’re also going to take 80+ chapters for THEIR story and it adds something extra to wait even longer for when the other one isn’t even done yet. Because at this point we’re invested in the first two after so so long, but then we also have to start emotionally investing in TWO MORE for another potential 80+ chapters... it wasn’t the best time to add them in.
Agreed. I say add them in when the first couple is mainly resolved and the readers are desperate for it not to end, even if it continues with a new couple.
It's such a romantic idea and the art is really beautiful. I think the general outline of the story was great and the characters were cool but it really needed to be fleshed out more. Overall, I'm disappointed. Most of the twists or dramatic scenes had no emotional impact. Them beating up the villain was fine but not super exciting, that guy barely made sense. Why was he so obsessed with yoosung, was it really just his face? Why would one beat down be enough for him to leave them alone forever if he's been trying to control yoosung for years? how did yoosung and his sister even end up living with him? what happened to his parents again? Jia being the god was a plot twist but did it really make sense? If she so was moved by their sacrifice that she wanted to see it happen again, why would she be okay with them having a happy ending this time? I don't really understand why this twist was necessary to the story or how it explained anything. Also if even yoosung barely cares that his sister was replaced how are we supposed to? Why did they both die (maybe only jinwoo died?) in their first lives? Why were so many of their past relationships so tumultuous? Did Jia manipulate their fate to cause the problems between them? Why add in the is it love or is it obsession dilemma if that isn't going to be addressed again? Yoosung wonders if jinwoo loves him now or his past self but we have no idea what his past self was like so how would we even know if he was different now? Jinwoo asks how could he not love yoosung and I'm like I don't really know why you do? Yoosungs character is kinda underdeveloped. Also does yoosung remember their past or does he just know it happened because of jinwoo's nighmares, if so why was jinwoo able to remember and not him? I've just got way too many questions. I really wanted a lot more from this story.
spinoff with inbeom please!!! im not ready for the end ╥﹏╥