it's like>be me, respected duke of a kingdom plagued by monstrosities
> it's ok i have powers :)
>actually it's not ok, using powers also give me debilitating chronic pain that tears my insides apart. it's slowly killing me and there seems to be no end in sight until i end up immolating myself and everyone i know.
> a saintess? oh i am no longer in constant pain and near insanity :)
> i trust saintess. ok lets go to korea, sounds fine :)
>I HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED TO ANOTHER DIMENSION AND AM BEING TORTURED FOR EXPERIMENTS AND AM A SLAVE FORCED TO USE MY ABILITIES LIKE CATTLE. SAINTESS WAS EVIL WTF.
>i fucked up i fucked up. what about my family. my world. must go back
>FUCK IT ONLY THE SAINTESS CAN OPEN DIMENSIONS
>what do you mean the government is making me marry the one who kidnapped me
>oh good we're not esper compatible. bitch bye lmao. haha even if i am powerless at least i won't be forced to marry anyone
>99% COMPATIBILITY ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDING ME.
>i hate her i hate her i hate her
>i hate her pretty smile
>i hate her getting injured because of my abilities and the government targeting her to manipulate me
>ok maybe i love her
>maybe it's not so bad living in this unfamiliar capitalist cyberpunk hellscape as the government's test subject and slave dimensions away from everything i know if i can be with my wife :)
>WIFE DEAD FML FML FML
I have a list here too: Bruh these comments made me open my childhood animes. I remember being a shojou anime addict searching on YouTube when copyright strike wasn’t a thing. Thank you for this question, now I wanna re/watch some of them.
I'm surprised no one mentioned these: Yamato Nadeshiko Fushigi Yuugi Shakugan no Shan The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Toradora Azumanga Daioh Ranma ½ Sugar Sugar Rune
Oh boy you really wanna go there huh? - "I can't be homophobic, I ReAd YoAi!!!!" You getting off to inaccurate, harmful and degrading depictions of MLM relationships does not make you an ally. - "Just because Yuris make me uncomfortable doesn't mean I fetishize Gay men, Yaoi just excites me more, it's a preference." No, Susan. If GLs make you un......
No one gives a fuck whether or not you read it just because it's a part of the story, it's the way you treat it that makes it disgusting. If you treat it as just another sexual fantasy between two men to satisfy your horniness, of course, you'll receive hate, if not I'm sorry that happened to you. You clearly are confusing SA and R@pe with being d......
The "reading for the plot" thing is just a bunch of bullshit anyways. If they're so invested in the "plot" then why can't they even bother to remember something as unbelievably basic as the characters' names? Or how have they failed to notice just how awful 99% of titles' plots are? And if they did notice then why are they willingly reading somethi......
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Here is the thing for people need to understand about Jeanette's hate. I'm not going to be rude to anyone about this. But here is the thing Jeanette, the character, has been put in the worst position possible there is no winning for her. 1. The main point of this webtoon is the parent-child relationship between Clade and Athy. Its the hook
2. Jeanette had a decent side character role for the first part of the series. There was a mystery surrounding her, but Athy was warming up to her at the same time. Then Mr. McRedflag's face gives her that ribbon.
3. The actions with the ribbon lead into seasons 2 & 3. Which wouldn't be so bad if there was a glaring issue that goes this webtoon.
4. The retroactive spoilers, the memories coma, and Claude thing happen in the Light novel with Claude waking up when our magic ML came back. The big hook returned a long while ago.
5. Returning to Jeanette once more, since the webtoon is in original territory now. Seemingly the webtoon artist has made Jeanette the author's pet. Her role in the story is exceeding what it needs to be. Her naive and innocent nature is fine; the issue is that the new canon wants to push that while also having her constantly manipulated by Mr. McRedflag's face and crew.
6. The story's pacing has been thrown out the window, and quite a few readers are fed up with it. They waited a long time for Claude to get his memories back, only to have him be in an anime coma.
Keeping these pointers in mind, the clear issue and the one that people should be pissed at is the webtoon artist going off the rails in a way that buried the hook and tried to fill the space with situations involving Jeanette and other things that are just making people more frustrated.
The reason why hate is pilled on Jeanette is cause while the reader cant see the author they can certain see Jeanette and the issues she causes by proxy.
TDLR: The webtoon went downhill because of the webtoons artist's actions which are only highlighted when Jeanette does stuff as of late. So by association, she getting vented at. (also some bad writing in general but i wont go into that.)
and yet most parts scenes are coming from Jeanette. Fuck you Jeanette and fuck the artist and story writer who keep on spooning us Jeanette parts. I hate her. There are people who are cutely naive that you can almost forgive them for their ignorance and clumsiness but Jeanette—gawd! Her little monologue on being the “sister” and being hurt at Athy because she didn’t share the things Athy had the right to keep because objectively, who is Jeanette anyway? She ain’t family.I stayed away for months so I can see some progress but god almighty, I wasted two chapters reading about Jeanette and her thoughts and her lack of awareness AND HER PRETENTIOUS INNOCENCE.
I am starting to hate this webtoon.
Jeanette you're not a bad person you're just stupid and naive. You let people manipulate you and that's why I don't like you. You're weak minded and one compliment is all it takes to control you. You said you wanted to see Anthy but how do you think she feels rights now. How do you think she feels knowing she's going to lose everything. Her dad is in a coma. All you care about is what she thinks of you . Anthy was going through so much and all you cared about was how she'd react if you told her you guys were related. Sincerely, That Bitch
can y'all stop getting mad at people for not liking the sex scene? I personally believe it was consensual but that he was being too pushy/selfish bc he has been wanting this for so long. Some of you sound ridiculous when u say "if he didnt like it he would have said "stop"",,,guys....someone doesnt have to say No for something to mean No. "I dont know" means NO. "Wait a minute" means NO. "Hold on" means NO. All of these things show apprehension and when somebody says them in such a situation like sex, you listen and you reassure them because theyre vulnerable and since it was his first time he was probably scared. Come on guys, this is basic consent and decency.
They have every right to be upset about it, please dont tell people how to feel. Youre also allowed to believe that the consent was enough. But please dont say silly things just because it may annoy you. Theres a time and place to be mad about things and people simply wanting more reassurance from him is not something to be mad at, i believe its a fair point and i would've liked to see more of it myself. Its a vulnerable situation and comforting your partner is important so that is what i and others would have preferred. If you were fine with it, okay then, cool. Theres no problem.
I feel like you guys sometimes look for things to be mad about unnecessarily. I really enjoy this manhwa, please dont ruin it by creating a hostile environment. Now please have the greatest day on the planet and have fun
I will whole-heartedly read stories depicting such heavy topics. But only as long as they are being portrayed and shown for what they truly are: A crime. Then I'm fine with it. But when this crap gets romanticized I'm sorry but no. Feel free to deal with these topics in your stories all you want, that in itself is not a problem. There are some mast......
First off, allow me to say that I feel you. I've had some really bad experiences with fujos myself. So I completely get where you're coming from. But this and that are completely different matters. I'm MLM, but don't see a problem with women reading BLs. I'm gay, but I also read GL & Straight content. Now should I also stop reading these contents ......
I stayed followed to that question cause it was funny watching heterosexuals getting worked up in the comments but a lot of the top/latest replies really are complete bullshit and a lot of you made yourselves look ridiculous. You first have straight cucks whining “w-www-well, if we can f-fff-fetishize MLM, t-tt-then they can f-fff-f-fetishize us......
This manhwa can be summed up by one thing and one thing only: sex. A plot that hinges on sex and is driven by a guy who’s upset that he *can’t* have sex with the main douchbag of the manhwa. Na-Kyum is an infamous painter, known for his detailed paintings of... sodomy. Seungho, a noble who enjoys orgies more than anyone should, decides he wan......
I don't feel like replying so here's a few articles tangentially related to the issue. Read at your own will, it's not like I really care if you don't. - The "Don't Like, Don't Watch" argument and its flaws: https://dtwizzie.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/the-dont-like-dont-watch-argument-and-its-flaws/ - Stop Romanticizing Rape in Books: https://mediu......
You have no idea the disappointment I felt when I had been sold this manhwa by someone I know for weeks as "SUCH A MASTERPIECE" only to find out when I actually picked it up what a pathetically toxic read it was. I think I maybe lasted 20 chapters? I hoped that maybe it would get somewhere, but it never did. Yes, the art is beautiful I'll give you......
It depends on the context. If, for instance, you were to take someone who'd go around saying that "BLs are for women anyways" or "It's just fiction!!" and by doing so, would gaslight one's arguments as to why promoting toxic works and tropes is harmful to their identity. Then I fail to see how the one calling the other out on promoting said toxicit......
the differences between jihyun and kyujin and their relationship and perceptions of chiwoo are so STARK but subtle and its just so interesting to read. where jihyun obviously was overly possessive, abusive and constantly tried to isolate chiwoo so he was his only 'option', kyujin actively encourages and is happy for chiwoo making friends finally. of course, he also wants his alone time with chiwoo, but he helps chi woo make friends and enjoy school. also, their pursuit for chiwoo is so different too! jihyun is ofc violent and obsessive, ignoring chiwoo's firm no's, manhandling him and grabbing him constantly. and while kyujin is also grabby and touchy, he respects chiwoo when he says no instantly, and though he persists his confessions despite constant rejection, its super respectful and patient because he knows chiwoo also likes him, he's just not ready. AND THE APOLOGY. this is where i realised "oh so he's irredeemable" in regards to jihyun. throughout the entire apology, he just made excuses and justifications for his rape "i just loved you so much" "i was anxious that you liked other people" "i did that because i liked you so much" "i will wait until you forgive me" "this is unfair" - it actually makes me quite sick. at this point, i genuinely don't think he is a redeemable character and that this apology is selfish and childish. i felt so, so fucking bad for chiwoo throughout this whole manwha, but the ending killed me. he had to sit there and explain to his ex best friend, his rapist how badly his life had been fucked up. he had to talk him through it and he did it politely. its disgusting and i absolutely hated jihyun for it. i think the author did a fantastic but vivid job of showing how terrified chiwoo really was of jihyun, and it made it so awful but heartbreaking to read.
i've seen a lot of people sympathising with jihyun and saying they wish he would get someone who loved him. i, bluntly, do not. i don't want rapists to be happy. i don't want abusers to be happy. everyone is mad as jihyuns dad for being abusive, no one is sympathising with him because he's an abuser. well, so is jihyun. i don't care if he was abused as a child - that's no excuse and it does not wash away or excuse the terror he inflicted upon chiwoo. as soon as someone takes the choice to inflict pain and cruelty upon someone else, they forfeit the right for happiness, and in my opinion, breathable air :). i don't want the fucker happy, i want him in jail. rapists can choke, thats the hill i will die on.
holy shit. now i understand why ML was like that when he was in korea, that