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I did give a warning that if you don’t like the plot don’t bother reading just to comment rude things especially towards people who enjoyed it.
Not anyone else’s fault you can’t read.
Don’t be childish and go on saying people need help when reality you need to get your eyes checked, seems you ignore warning signs.
Your fault

If you like reading rape that’s on you bro but if someone doesn’t like they can totally say it. It’s a comment section after all, it’s made to give your opinion so if someone want to say this webtoon is shitty and full if rape and dislike it they totally can. And saying it’s rude toward people who enjoy it is as stupid as saying someone can’t say they don’t like Harry Potter cause there’s people who like it.

I guess I was harsh but seriously if you enjoy watching rape your disgusting, like literally while I’m typing this I’m seriously debating on apologizing come on bro it’s literally rape a warning isn’t gonna do anything . You guys are enjoying RAPE seriously get help. And I apologize for being harsh ig

I will say this once because I am 23 and have no time arguing,
They can can have an opinion but to go on insulting people for liking it is a childish move.
Opinions do not = insulting someone for liking something.

I also don’t know if you’re talking to me because this comment sounds contradicting.

Anybody can state their opinion, but telling people to "off" themselves is a bit much, no? It may have been a badly written rant and that that was not the true intention, but if that was the intention, simply calling it rude is a mild reaction. I don't usually get involved in heated discussions, but that is a pretty unacceptable thing to say.

Yes I already apologized it was In the heat of the moment.Sorry

Guess I'll kill myself now. Thanks I guess. I've been feeling depressed and on the fence about suicide the past few months, but your comment made me realize I'm better off dead.

Why is it that some people can't seem to grasp that fiction does not equal reality? Just because you like reading stories that have rape in it, or killing people in video games doesn't mean you like those things in real life, or that you'll start doing it. People will rape and kill others because there's something wrong with them, not because they read some manga that had those things in it.

There's no problem with reminding people that rape is bad, but to tell them to kill themselves? That's too far. Let's hope the anon above me is just being sarcastic, coz if not, fuck.

Cool get help what can I say ?? I’m not gonna console you.

Fiction affects reality what can I say you are trying to let yourself or idk others perhaps go with their weird shit bc it’s fiction...weird ass mfs .. do you know how many people have gone through rape just for you/others to enjoy and put up the it’s fiction card to get away with it. Get help seriously

Fiction affects reality to an extent, but not as much as you are making it out to be. A rapist will rape regardless of what they read, what you wear, etc. And for the record, I am survivor who goes to therapy and uses CNC to deal with my trauma and allow me to feel like I'm in control again. My therapist sees no issues with my media consumption and other proclivities.

You think this manga is shit and people who read it are shit- what are you doing about it apart from commenting on an illegal site? Are you speaking with your money and supporting authors who don't use rape in their stories? Are you leaving reviews and critiques on sites like Renta/Lehzin/etc? Or are you just virtue signalling and shaming people for reading a fictional story?

What does me saying this manga is shit have to do with legal ? It is shit and people who read are shit and what do other authors have to do with this manga ??? And yes I am shaming people who enjoy this shitty manga and other mangas that have rape in it , you are a rape victim for sure but do you speak for everyone in the community just bc you don’t feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean others don’t, coping is different for different people, if that’s the way you cope then fine this isn’t for you, but this can be hurtful for those who DO NOT cope in the same way as you. And my point still stands people who read this shit are shit and again do you speak for everyone who reads this ? Do you ? Most people are probably social rejects who don’t have anything else to do with their life’s except read and enjoy shit like this . Are you mad because I called a rapey manga shit .? Also again fiction does affect reality even to that extent trust me. Maybe you aren’t looking through it enough.

My point is if you are so against rape in manga and it offends you, then what are you doing about it? As it is, all you're doing is complaining on an illegal site and not really doing anything to try and make change in the industry. I'm sure you know that rape is a pretty rampant topic used in almost all smutty manga- so are you going to each and every one and writing how shit you think it all is? And yes, it is MY own coping method, I never said otherwise. Other survivors would find this triggering, but that's why reading the warnings and tags help in avoiding that. I'm mad at how flippant you are with your words. To tell people to kill themselves is no fucking joke.

A lot of people have kinks, rape being one of said kinks but it doesn’t mean they want to be forced upon nor does it mean they don’t find it disgusting outside of their consensual plays. Let’s not forget how some victims of rape use fiction to cope with their trauma and some victims even have consensual rape rp(?) w their partners, so let’s not shame anyone here. You can be pissed all you want abt rape kinks but I suggest you mind your own business.

Do you not fuckinhg understand what I’m saying ? It’s not abt finding it triggering its abt enjoying someone’s trauma . About enjoying rape what do you not understand? And for the first part , does it matter ? What can I really do ? It’s not like me saying I’m against it is gonna stop idiots from reading it or making it . So I’ll just voice my opinion even if someone gets mad . And did I not say I apologized for the kys part. Sure my bad

Victims can cope however they want , but do you think I care about those weird mfs who have a kink ? I’ll shame kinks whenever I want . Kinks have some root no ? Where do you think kinks come from ? From thin air? Putting it aside as a possible coping mechanism for VICTIMS , tell me from what do those kinks come from. You should be aware of kinks that base of pedophilia too right ? Are you defending those too because they are just “kinks” . Stop defending shit like this.

And more in general I’m talking about people who have nothing to do with rape , but find pleasure in rape . THAT is what I find creepy and weird. People who read this shit and find it attractive or in any way “good”. Why would any person (who has nothing to do with rape) find rape enjoyable or pleasurable. Disgusting absolutely disgusting

I’ve tried reading this abt 10 times now and I will just say this as a victim of SA myself, words cannot describe how this is so embarrassing to read.. you’ve been warned and you still chose to read the manga so I don’t even know why ur continuing to bitch abt it, it’s honestly so depressing.

Lmao what ? I’m not triggered I’m annoyed that people enjoy this. That people enjoy someone else’s trauma do you really not get that I could care less that I read this it’s abt others who read this and enjoy it. And it’s even more depressing that you are trying so hard to defend people who read this.( doesn’t include victims who use it to cope.)

you literally said go kys in your top comment, you are triggered Lmao. It’s so abundant too, it’s almost embarrassing. Isn’t it weird how I as a rape victim acknowledge that people know rape is bad, and people who have rape kinks know it’s bad and they don’t wish that for themselves or anyone but you don’t. That’s pretty depressing. What’s also weird is how Im victim but you don’t see me shaming anyone for their kinks online regardless of how weird I find it. Maybe shut the fuck up for once.

“and it’s even more depressing that you are trying to defend people who read this”- really??Are you actually Fr?? You don’t care abt victims and it’s clear lmao. I swear it’s all “listen to victims!!” Until they share a different ideology from you.

I wasn’t referring to victims when I said that .. I’m referring to people who haven’t gone through rape at all. Haven’t I’ve been clear enough ?? Guess not

Holy shit , what do you not get ??? I’m not triggered I’m annoyed people find others trauma pleasurable . And again I’ll shame anyone with weird kinks good on you if you don’t want to but I’ll say it again unless you are a rape victim and use it to cope it’s disgusting to find pleasure through rape.

Good for you if you don’t want to shame kinks but I’ll shame them if it’s weird shit like this. And may I repeat I’m not triggered I’ve read worst stuff I’m annoyed that people find pleasure through someone’s trauma. Depressing that you can’t acknowledge that someone who is not a victim shouldn’t find this pleasurable.

Yea it is depressing that you defend people who enjoy this who are NOT victims. I’ll listen to victims and I’ll always listen to them. But victims and people who find pleasure through this are different. I’ll find them disgusting all I want and I will voice my opinion. Victims can cope however they want but what excuse do those idiots have ? “Oh it’s fiction oh it’s a kink” I could actually care less they are still finding pleasure through someone’s trauma.

Ooof. Have read through this thread and as an objective observer-- the issue is how you generalised everyone who reads/enjoys this as disgusting people, and told them to kill themselves. You tried to backtrack by saying you were feeling heated when you said it, but you literally tell someone who expresses suicidal thoughts, 'Cool. Not my problem.' You're technically not wrong; their life is not your responsibility, but realise that your words have weight and can genuinely affect others. A little bit of empathy goes a long way. I'm honestly just hoping that suicidal anon was just being facetious and wasn't serious.


Then you further backtrack once some SA survivors explained how they use these kinds of stories to cope. What once was everyone, now became everyone but with exceptions. The problem though is that YOU don't know who are survivors and who are not; no one does unless they offer that information themselves. To conclude: you really shouldn't have made such a blanket statement as you did in that first comment. That opened you to contradict yourself, which just made it worse.

Honestly, who the fuck are you to shame people when you yourself are not a victim of rape. You’ve had two SA victims try to explain it to you but you still don’t get it?? Stop trying to shame people when you yourself don’t have the trauma.

No what’s depressing if you having two whole ass victims trying to explain why they don’t mind but you disregarding everything. You never went through what victims of rape went through and I don’t need someone like you speaking out on my trauma, I can’t do that myself. Get therapy you illiterate bitch.

“I’ll listen to victims and I’ll always listen to them”
YOU LITERALLY ARE ARGUING W TWO RAPE VICTIMS LMAOO HELP??? My trauma is not there for you shame people or to speak on behalf of especially when you yourself are not the victim. If a victim feels uncomfortable they will speak, we don’t need you to try and play savior.

lmao don’t bother with this idiot, they’ll never back down bc they think they’re always right no matter what. It’s honestly depressing and a waste of time.

True I did contradict myself because I didn’t know SA victims used this coping method but I know better now , my point still stands though people who read this and find pleasure through this who are not victims are disgusting. And for the anon I doubt it was true they were guilt tripping.

I’m not always right , it’s just stupid that people who are not victims find pleasure through rape.

Sigh I’m not gonna continue this argument because it’ll be insensitive, I could reply trust me but I’d rather not ! Have a good day keep defending people who enjoy your trauma !! (≧∀≦)

Its not the pleasure they find through rape it’s the the idea of being dominated consensually by someone whom they like.

You’ve already said a bunch of shit that was insensitive and instead of listening to actual victims you use our trauma to demonize people. Again, I suggest you stop speaking on behalf of victims. We don’t need people like you to defend us especially when you yourself are really close minded. Listen to victims and stop arguing with them abt their trauma. Even stupidity has its limits. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

https://manga.bilibili.com/m/detail/mc28557
Here you go

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