The one in the most wrong and weird here is Ruby. She’s the one who have been lusting Aqua ever since she found out he was Gorou. Hate on Ruby, not Aqua BUT BUT BUT
If Aqua starts to show he enjoys the kiss, EXCLUDING HIM “ACTING” AS HIKARU, that’s where we hate him just as we hate Ruby
God I didn’t know this group were so toxic to the OG Sihyeon I didn’t know or remember that they didn’t even help him when Sihyeon needed their help the most. YOU TELLING ME YOU FUCKERS IGNORED HIS CALL FOR HELP?! FUCK YOU GUYS
I changed my mind, I’m glad that mafia guy or bodyguard that was in Hajin’s life is the ML. Yeah they still have yet to develop romance but he’s more better than these fuckers group being with Sihyeon/Hajin.
I want the ending for this story is for Sihyeon/Hajin officially leaving the group, take OG Sihyeon’s sister and live and raise her until she’s old enough to be independent and live with the ML and also making a small grave or shrine for the OG Sihyeon
Wait I'm kinda lost, how were the group toxic to sihyeon? Didn't they treat him well even before losing his memories?
Not gonna argue on anyone so this will be my first and final reply. It may not be toxic since toxic is a strong word but you do not turn a blind eye to a person who helped you so much during your toughest times.
From other comments I saw in here, this blonde guy (who I don’t bother to remember the name anymore since I went hiatus on this story) told his story how OG Sihyeon helped him and encouraged him in his darkest moments in his life then I found out from others that when OG Sihyeon was also going through a dark moment in his life, in early beginnings of the webtoon, no one not a single person in this group helped him. If they did try to help him, maybe they did since I have yet to re-read (because I’m replying to you) but it begs to question why the OG Sihyeon committed suicide.
If they’re trying to make it up, it’s too late. The real Sihyeon is dead. He died knowing no one understood him or on his side. No one believed him. Who are they making it up to? A random loan shark heir? That’s Lee Hajin now who never felt wronged by these group because he wasn’t in OG Sihyeon’s shoes but nevertheless, I want Hajin to have his own happy ending because he’s trying hard to understand OG Sihyeon’s pain and regret (leaving his sister behind) I don’t know if this story has a novel but if it is, I hope someone post spoilers what happens in the later chapters
They probably don't even know sihyeon's going through that(loan shark thing) or either sihyeon choose not to tell them so probably some of the members doesn't know that
Dang, relax and take a chill pill
I know it's your "final reply" but this felt oddly aggressive? Noone came at you and you're already prepared to argue jfjfjfjnj they just asked a question...
I think you should continue your hiatus if it really upsets you that much.... Much love
Genuinely, the got so aggressive so fast Calm tf down nobody is attacking you
Yeah I was starting to forget all about this part of the story
Agree
I’m sorry but this sounds like the most passive aggressive response I’ve seen in a while lmao
This actually made me laugh because you are right! Tone is up to the reader and I can't help you much if you think my reply is passive aggressive. All I can do is tack on a heart to convey my sincerity kek
But, in all seriousness, to OP, I genuinely think this upsets you to an unholy degree. You were still on your hiatus and formed an opinion from what I can see even before reading the latest ch.
And did not hesitate to write a post about it despite knowing this.
That's not good trust, I have plenty of recommendations...
The real sihyeon was nice and strong It’s so sad that we might not be able to see him anymore unlike *that* idol webtoon (not BL) but I wish the real sihyeon is like alive somewhere in another body because it sucks that his life ended in tragic when he was loved by his group all this time I want real Sihyeon and the Sihyeon (Hajin) to hang out and become close It would have been a cute brotherly relationship but I guess this is a permanent headcanon
Oh you mean debut or die
wait do we get to see the real pmd????
Uh in flashbacks and such however
SPOILER
If my memory serves me right og moondae is the system and they're somehow connected by his deleted YouTube channel (?)
You forgot the spoiler tag
REAL I'm currently reading the novel rn and this kinda ruined it for me.. but I'll still continue
NOO this ruined your immersion I’m so sorry this happened
Huh I assumed you meant debut or die sorry for the assumption then what other idol webtoon did you refer to
Also if you comment on another commentator comment it doesn't have a spoiler tag hence I skipped spaces
Ok this is weird to brought up but I just recently watched this documentary of an old scandal that happened in the Kpop industry. I’m not into kpop but the scandal got me curious and all I gotta say, TLDR: Korean society have this toxicity side where they victim blame than actually punishing actual predator and rapists and only giving them 1-5 fcking years?! LIKE EXCUSE ME???
This is what I noticed in this chapter. Like holy fuck this is so messed up. I hate how victims are always forced to submit and not defend their rights and themselves. Because fucking society prefers to let this all die down than actually protecting the citizens. I swear to god if that fcking rapist mf character that I don’t bother memorizing his name doesn’t get punished, I’m going to do the unthinkable. I thought Japan’s lack of mental health and releasing criminals is fucked up but Korean is no different and at the same level of fuckery as Japan.
Yeonwoo deserves a better life. He needs justice and his friends to protect him (because it seems none of them except Junhyuk taking this seriously and I hate it) No this is not him being a damsel in distress. He is a literal traumatized kid who experienced physical, emotional, mental and sexual abuse! Yes, Yeonwoo needs therapy too but how can he when the fucking rapist is out there living a good life and will always haunt Yeonwoo.
Yeah but the thing is JH is the only person who knows and YW is not willing to let anyone else know what happens to him because of how much it traumatized him and how much he thinks is going to make everyone hate him. In Korean society things like that are very possible where if the victim comes and speaks out they are blamed for what happened to them. And I feel like it's going to take a while for YW to actually tell his new friends what happened to him because JH only found out because he saw that bastard's phone. If JH didn't find out YW would have taken that to his grave.
I recommend watching something called juvenile justice. It's in Netflix but it shows how the young offenders get away with stuff
True but I wish they also take into account that if your friend is going through something, you can’t brush it off or ignore it as if nothings happening. Yeonwoo’s su*cide isn’t him escaping or running away, it’s desperate call for him even if he is afraid of anyone knowing, deep inside no matter what it is, it’s a call for help. Like I wanted them to acknowledge Yeonwoo’s is going through something and be patient until Yeonwoo himself tells them. Be patient and wait for him while also making him comfortable that they are there for him.
I’m sorry if this seems an attack to you It wasn’t and I didn’t mean it. I hoped there are authors out there who can handle characters’ reaction towards su*cide when it’s someone close to them.
I completely understand and agree. I want them to show more of how his trauma is affecting him and I'm sure we're going to get more of that as the series goes on.
I still recall back then how people in comments were commenting that Aqua is disgusting because of incest. People always turn a blind eye that it has always been Ruby who wanted it the most. Aqua is staying in his own lane and even said it himself he is uncomfortable.
Noooo I think they just called the element of incest disgusting….. I don’t remember seeing comments calling aqua disgusting . Ruby idk y she hasn’t matured yet, even though she has lived twice her age.
I found a few comments back then but not a lot and for Ruby’s immaturity, I think it’s because she died at 12 years old in her previous life, not getting the chance to experience the harsh reality of growing up. Then she’s reborn as Ai’s daughter, given a privilege than any normal human being. When you have a celebrity parent, you’re free from a lot of painful experiences because you have connections, inherited talent and image of being a celebrity’s child which none of us experienced while growing up.
Like compare Aqua and Ruby’s current selves in this chapter, Aqua was an adult who lived a harsh life = mature viewpoint then we got Ruby who was a lonely kid shut away from the world = child viewpoint. Sometimes a child who recently cured of their illness can be naive when they step into society. There are many different pains and not all of us can understand that pain.
That makes sense. But I think Maria was 15, the same age as Ai when she was in the hospital. Anyway that doesn’t matter but, yes the point of her having a child view makes sense. I remember when we were kids we used to have the “fav uncle” or “fav brother”, Ruby just took it to the next level
She was 14 when she made the "promise" with Gorou (that he would marry her when she turned 16- mind you, he agreed because he knew she was terminal and didn't want to upset her any more), but she had been in the hospital for far longer than that. Enough for her mom to pretend Sarina was never in her life to begin with, pretty much. Everything she's been doing has pretty obviously been a trauma response to that, especially considering most of this has developed AFTER Ruby reconnected with Sarina's mom, realized Sarina was never truly wanted by her old family, and THEN realized Gorou was right next to her again.
It’s the same old attachment issues…. She just needs to be more aware of what they are now. She doesn’t consider she is Ruby, Aqua’s sister.
Thank you for explaining! I think at the future chapters, I want Ruby to get therapy or experience life far away from Aqua for a while because she’s still hung up on Sensei/Aqua’s care for her in previous life. But I can’t blame her if she’s going to have a hard time but she needs it because I’m pretty sure Aqua will not approve of what Ruby will do. She has to face reality and learn moral things now that she is given a new life, a second chance.
Yay happy ending, I’m sorry BUT NO, I can already see what’s going to be conflict in Vol4 and it’s the cliche of “third part & third wheeling” and what I hate the most is that Minato will once again suffer from the “you don’t need to be so serious” or “aw you’re jealous” bro have we even saw Shizuma act so jealous when someone is stealing Minato from him (exclude Minato’s friends because they’re trolling) and I’m praying and begging to the yaoi god authors to please make Shizuma get the taste of his own medicine.
He is that boyfriend that open relationship can create good communication, yes good BUT I think he’s forgetting the most important part of a relationship, BOUNDARIES. I once got annoyed with Yuka but looking at it, she did may acted impulsive but when you realize your boyfriend is treating you like a best friend level (like best friend and lover = same level) then that is not way to go in a relationship. Your girlfriend or boyfriend isn’t your friend, they’re your significant other who will be with you for the rest of your life.
Shizuma has no boundaries and letting other people who your lover don’t know, touch you casually like that doesn’t make it like your lover is also okay with that. They’ll get suspicious and ask who they are, if you think they overreact, you can’t blame them.
Last thing I’ll mention what I hate about Shizuma is that he treats all the worries and anxiety Minato experiencing as “nothing to worry about, you’re overreacting” he makes Minato feel at ease but he sure is a professional in making Minato worry more. I think the person that needs therapy more in that relationship is Shizuma and it’s a therapy about how you shouldn’t brush off your lover’s worries.
Anyway, I hope that director who is actually a man doesn’t think of a funny idea of stealing Shizuma because of how much of an asshole are you to steal someone else’s lover because you’re miserable in your life. Find your own?!
Stop giving Minato the mental stress and damage, he had enough of his trauma resurfacing almost 24/7 because a certain man can’t even set his own boundaries to other people.
Anyone know how to block a webtoon in this app? I don’t wanna see this shit of a story in the latest updates when I already deleted it in my bookmarks
Lolol is this manhwa that bad?
Delete it from ur list
First press the edit button, then the subscribe button (if it's blue) so it becomes white
Yes good until chapter 50 and then it turns to shit dog fuckin shit
lmao
My condolences to the people who still read side story 8 despite the past warnings. And yes this horrible event is canon whether you like it or not. The babies that Boksil detested ended up him loving it in his next life. Is Sia still redeemable even if she treated him right in modern? I don’t know but one thing I know is Heeyoun running away before in main story but still… ended up being caught by Sia which is… may not be redeemable after the horrible things she did in her previous life.
Let’s just hope the author make Sia pay for her sins instead of letting in go because it’s the next life. Some of the terrible happenings in our present events might be the karma we did in our previous life did which we will never know.
Isn’t that the reason why good and bad karma exists. If you did something horrible in your past life, you have to pay the price in your next life. If you did good deeds in your previous life, an even greater reward and good karma will happen to your next life.
I’m sorry for this long message again, I’m really just hoping author does this justice. I’m hating now most Korean authors not doing this, not giving characters redeemable arcs and just letting excusing it with bullshit reasons and most of them are sex (solving mental problems with sex = disgusting) all because they do not understand the concept of karma cycles when it isn’t limited to religion, it happens literal everyone in the world it’s just that some countries don’t see it as karma but just bad luck when it’s literal karma because we have no memories of our past lives
There’s something to feel bad about Hikaru but still doesn’t explain why he murdered Ai, the only person who defended him and for someone who is in a high position in the entertainment industry he sure is living a good life after murdering the girl he impregnated
Ok i didn’t know this existed until I saw the comments of the other one being a reupload so I came here. I’m on chapter 20 right now and all I gotta say: gurl, you said and have been following the quote “If it’s a fight I can’t avoid, then I should fight with everything I have because that’s as important as victory” from your mother but from what I can see you’re clearly losing Edward has been carrying your ass 24/7 when you’re trying to get your “revenge”. You’re a pushover and submissive wife who gets troubled and nervous when trying to get back to your asshole husband. This make it look like the female lead from abandoned empress is better than you
Is dying and regressing is the only way for female leads to actually get stronger?
Those thoughts aside, I hope future chapters are better and female lead stop acting like a pushover and submissive (non-nsfw way). Like yeah she’s talented in swords but is that it? You can’t claim yourself to be super strong with sword alone when you can’t even fight back against your blonde husband without Edward.
Plus it’s like her mother, Lancia is the only strong woman in this story that can actually fight without being 100% dependent. I’m sure this is no longer a spoiler because it’s so obvious and this is a cliche plot twist already.
I will continue reading the story now. Hopefully this female lead grow a bone or two to actually get stronger and stop being a pushover for once. Maybe reading Medea and Roxana made me changed my expectations of strong female leads although Medea has fallen so I’ll replace her with Psyche since she’s the real strong female lead that moved on from being a pushover