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I feel bad for the dad. He has his faults but he's a victim too. I hope they come to a solution that's favorable for both parties. ╥﹏╥
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No I don't think you can call him an abuser if he left his child? I think that's more on being irresponsible but he was abused too so his mental state wasn't great in the first place. He left because he was abused and it looks like he had it rough during pregnancy (see ch. 58). He wanted to forget everything after leaving and wanted a fresh start but he couldn't. It probably dawned on him about how irresponsible he was after he got his life back together and I assume he came back to redeem himself. It's never okay that he left his child but he regretted it. I want the kid to stay with euihyun though and maybe just give visiting rights to the dad
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Doesn’t change the fact the dad is not the victim. This whole situation wouldn’t have happened in the first place if he 1. Acted like a real dad or 2. Not appear at all. He mentally abused his child by taking him away from the ONE person who raised him and then separating them making it impossible for them to see each other. He’s a mentally abuser person whether he was once a victim or not. You can’t just abandon a child and then expect them to get over whoever was taking care them when you abandoned them just because you want to act like a father now. He’s a terrible person and he can’t use mental health as an excuse either cuz MC was being abused by the same fucker that abused him yet he STILL took care of his brother instead of abandoning them. This man is not a victim in this situation he is literally the cause of it
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How is he not a victim when he was abused is beyond me. I do not understand this logic. He came back because he couldn't move on and his conscience is probably eating him for leaving his child behind. You could see that even though he left him, he still love him. This is why they should've talked at the kid first. He took him away from euihyun because they both decided that it's what's best for the kid. The only fault of both is that they didn't consider the kid's feeling with their decision. They should've made the kid feel more comfortable with the transition first before going through it. Mental health is not an excuse this is exactly why I said he's at fault too. People react differently and the dad's course of action was selfish. He made a mistake and regretted his action so he's back to redeem himself. The dad was extremely selfish but I can't help but sympathize when you look at things from his perspective.
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He’s not the victim here because he caused it idk why it’s so hard for you to understand that a victim can become an abuser whether they realize it or not. His whole perspective is abandon child come back YEARS later because of guilt manipulate MC into feeling bad and making it seem like he can give a better life to the child he abandoned, child doesn’t like him and he doesn’t get why and thinks he’ll just get over it and then get used to it, gets mad at MC for taking child back after the child ran away because of his hatred. This man is not fit to raise a child and that is a form of abuse. Child abandonment is abuse. Him coming back does not all of sudden resolve the abuse of him abandoning them with an abuser and then never coming back to at least try to help them. He is a mental/emotional abuser. Separating a child from someone they deem as a precious guardian because you believe you could do better and you completely disregarding the child’s feelings is a form of an abuse. What he did is a form of abuse what he should of done is slowly integrated himself if he wanted to be a part of his child’s life so badly after all these YEARS of not even caring about him because now the child just sees him as someone who will take him away from the one person he cares about. Victims can become abusers the sooner you realize this the sooner you’ll understand why everyone else doesn’t feel bad for this so called father
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i think they’re saying he is a victim OF ABUSE not of the situation. you can have you’re own beliefs, but i for one don’t think it’s fair to completely dismiss that he was being severely abused and did what he had to do to escape that situation. i wish he hadn’t left his son and MC, but he had no obligation to the MC and was obviously not capable of caring for a new born baby. now that he is in a better place and has the resources to care for a child, he wants to be in his sons life. and from an outside perspective, i think it’s fair of him to think that the MCs situation is too dangerous for a kid. he should have discussed this with his son and not pressured the MC, but try to have some empathy and see where he’s coming from.
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The thing is... he got so many other options than leaving his baby with his abuser. Orphanage is always an option in Korea. It might not as great but it is tad better than with the father who is an abuser. This guy obviously made MC feel like shit so he will give the kid to him, not acknowledging all the sacrifices this brother made for his little brother. Yes MC should had made some compromise situation in which he could visit the kid... but come on, after being told your life is a bad influence and you're so shitty that you can't even help on yourself? How can anyone have the audacity to ask for visitation? MC is already not mentally alright, and for someone who was in the same situation to slap those words to someone's face, is plain evil. Nope, I do not have sympathy for this dad. Victim card is not your excuse to say something hurtful to someone. Ya know ... what this mf should've done? He should had asked both brothers to stay with him. But that was never an option with him... (╬ ̄皿 ̄)
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You know what I'm gonna digest this statement first because I still can't wrap my head around it because all I can see is a victim who made a bad decision and came back to redeem himself. I agree that the transition was rushed causing emotional damage to the child but both of them just wanted the best for him. I'll reread this after I clear my head. Also I don't think euihyun wasn't allowed to see the kid after he moved?
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I have no empathy for child abandoners and I’ve been talking about this chapter not what he has been through he’s a victim of abuse okay he should have at least called for help when he escaped or done something to where his child could be safe but no he didn’t do any of that. Instead he waited several years to come back to play father and decided to guilt trip and manipulate MC into giving him his child that he ABANDONED. That kid does not know him either all the kid sees is some random man claiming to be his father and separating him from his brother. Funny how y’all can excuse his behavior for abandoning his child but refuse to even acknowledge how even tho MC was not capable of taking care of a newborn he still did it while still being abused as well. This man is horrible and should’ve stayed gone and if he felt that guilty about abandoning his child why didn’t he come sooner? You can claim resources yet MC made it work with the bare minimum and a shitty mental state the father is a fraud of a man that is emotionally/mentally abusive without realizing it and he’s so delusional that he thought he was doing well by the kid when really he was just causing more pain and suffering on everyone. This whole runaway thing wouldn’t have happened if he just stayed in whatever bubble he was in. It’s not fair that he gets empathy just because he was abused when MC was abused by the same person as him and made it work
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I’ll be addressing the birthing father as mother for understanding purposes.
I agree with the mother being a victim of the father but like the other person said, so too was Euihyun. Euihyun also had to be the buffer between the father and Euiyoung. I think the guilt is what brought him back, not love. He doesn’t even know his son enough to love him. He abandoned his child to his to the abuser, trusting Euihyun to pick up the slack. Euihyun couldn’t even leave himself for fear of abandoning Euiyoung. Being abused will never justify neglecting one’s child, particularly under these circumstances. That excuse doesn’t work in real life and should not be accepted in fiction either. Also the mother made the decision on his own and then gaslit Euihyun into agreeing with his viewpoint. Be belittled Euihyun and all the work he has done for the baby, by himself might I add. Euihyun was so ashamed that he ended up conceding. I also agree they should have asked the Euiyoung before deciding on his life path and they also should have worked out a better way to transition Euiyoung into the new lifestyle. He made a mistake I agree but you also have to understand his actions created two new victims. An abuser can’t expect their victim to forgive them for their actions just because they apologize. What the mother did was no different than apologizing and demanding his apology to be scored. Also add I type this I realize the mother never even apologized for what he did. Like wtf. The only one I feel completely sorry for is Euiyoung, how dare people make such an important decision about his life without consulting him.
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I just started this because I only recently finished reading the novel and literally the first thing I thought of was "the artist perfectly illustrated Chu Wanning's phoenix eyes". I was so impressed because this is exactly how I thought he would look like!!!!!! The artist did so well...
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So happy 2ha got licensed I own the physical book of the series and planing to read everything when I own all the volumes. I read the fan translation for many years ago and didn't understand everything.... but the official is so much more understandable and have all the details, no missing details
You should buy the book! Or the digital version so worth the money
I'm obsessed with stories where the main POV is the character that doesn't have the memories of their past life/alternative life. I love this. This is for me.
Me too!! I'm also obsessed with regressors who are obsessed with the MCs and go back in time to change the past, lol!
Is this story have that kind of plot ? Coz i thought it was just amnesia lmao or did i miss some details?
nope, you got it wrong, hahaha, the MC doesn't have amnesia, these are memories from the first timeline where his relationship with the ML was really bad and then he commited suicide and the ML regressed but he's the only one who remembers it
Thanks ! Can't belive i binge read the entire season with the wrong plot in my mind lol ..
Lol, it happens to me too xD
Do you know the titles of the other stories with similar tropes? I would love to know!!
This story really reminded me of Into the Rose Garden and Palace of Bardo