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YOOO EVERYONE BOO THIS FUCKING LOSER OMG!!!!

YOOO EVERYONE BOO THIS FUCKING LOSER OMG!!!!

YOOO EVERYONE BOO THIS FUCKING LOSER OMG!!!! WTF ARE YOU ON BRUHH. acting like asta didn't work for the shit he got, when all yuno did was fucking breathe he got so much overpowered shit that it sounds so fuck ridiculous to say compared to asta. ACTING LIKE ASTA GOT ANTI MAGIC POWERS WHEN ITS JUST HIS FUCKING BOOK STFU!OOH " Asta is overpowered because he has anti magic in a magic world ooooh" WHILE YUNO HAS WIND MAGIC ,WIND SPIRT, AND STAR MAGIC !!!IS A MF MISSING PRINCE FROM ANOTHER KINGDOM!!! HE AINT EVEN AN ORPHAN , HES GOT A FUCKING MOM STILL ALIVE AND WELL!! BOOOOO FUCKING TOMATOES TO THROW AT UR DUMBASS !!!DOES YUNO'S DICK TASTE GOOD ?!?! HAVE SOME TOMATOES WITH THAT YOU LOSER BOOOO!!!

Boo all you want bitch. What powers did he get by just breathing?we barely even see the dude but we've seen panels if him training. He got the sylph the same time Asta got his second sword.

Exactly, we barely saw him and the son of a bitch had new shit all the time wtf are you on ?!?!? You are acting like yuno needed all that shit to . HE WAS BARELY EVEN THERE AND GOT TONS OF POWER UPS LIKE HE FUCKING DESERVED THEM ??? You said that shit ur self ass wipe , are you saying that he deserved to get all the power ups when he was barely shown?? Does that even make sense , he didn't do anything, ANYTHING!!

Yes he does bitch.

How motherfucker?!? Explain how it makes any sense for yuno to have all the shit he got

Lmao shut yo bitch ass up, no he doesn't. Just admit defeat bro, you're fighting a losing battle

No you shut the fuck up edge Lord bitch. Hating on a deuteragonist because he's a deuteragonist is some loser shit. Sorry you couldn't self insert into Asta enough loser.

You sound really fucking stupid now bro

Oh you big mad I see lil piss baby lmaoo nah I hate him because he didn't earn any of the shit he received and he has the gall to tell Asta he wins as if that wasn't going to be a given. Now your loser ass can't give decent explanations as to why you believe he should get every power up under the sun just to compete with my boy who ain't got a lick of magic. Like bro you're really out here glazing and fighting tooth and nail for a goofy who couldn't hold a candle to the goat so the author had to give him every leg up just to appease crybaby bitches like you lmao keep crying and gawk gawk gawking bitch, your fave won't ever look your way

I'm not explaining shit to you because it's a waste of time. "My fave won't look my way" are you retarded or 12? It's a fucking fictional character, why would it look my way? Do you only read manage because you want to fuck the characters? You want Asta to fuck you? No wonder you're crying that another character is strong.Eww. Get a life pathetic waste of space. Take yourself out you fucking failed abortion. Talking about a fictional character looking your way. Unloved, untrained virgin loser.

Lmfao you maaaad, you mad! That's why you can't back what you're defending so hard—trying to deflect and pick only parts of comments to respond to. Even you know Yuno lame af and the author only made him "strong" with power ups bc he could never beat Asta without them. Oh you're such a fucking riot dawg!

highkey agree

This. It's also giving Stockholm Syndrome. Obviously no kidnapping, but Shagar was basically isolated with only Luso as his only option.

you’ll figure it out once you read it! the answer is already in the manhwa :)
and if you’re too lazy to check:




the answer is yes! they ARE real people. pretty sure this was already mentioned early on but oh well

Rude and for what?

Sorry? I didn't understand what u meant

Yeah, nothing wrong with adults sleeping around

The issue isn't that, the issue is literally the words Suzuki said right before it happened to Sugiki, the Manga is still good and they ended up together so who cares, but it doesn't mean what he did isn't shitty and doesn't make sense as to why he would do it to begin with.
The movie might not be as good as the manga but at least it removed a lot of the problematic stuff this Manga had, including something that does count as cheating even if they were never together.

It's like you are going on a few dates with someone, you two aren't official but things are getting REALLY serious, then you discover your almost boyfriend slept with someone while going out with you.
It's still shitty and wrong, even if you two aren't officially dating.

People aren't overreacting, they are saying the truth/what's right, you shouldn't do this.

They were not going out at all.Infact the relationship never started. Yeah theyre in love with each other but if no relationship ever started, it is not cheating.

And I read that, I know it.
But right before that he EXPLICITLY said "I won't sleep with other guys" so even if not dating the relationship was serious enough to NOT be doing that, he promised and what do they show us next?
Him after having slept with another guy.

The fact that he made to promise to not sleep with other men means the relationship even if not dating was serious enough to NOT sleep around/he shouldn't be doing that.
It's not like I'm pulling that out of nowhere, it's literally written there, so by definition I should take the "I won't sleep with other guys" seriously given it's literally a promise he made, not just a white lie.

Your so right queen, ngl everyone is so unserious nowadays, as something important as love, having feelings for each other even if it isn't official or have a label on it is still smthng , honestly people who back this crap as unserious must have cheated a lot or just crazy

Exactly, if someone defend this behavior there is no way they aren't fin with cheating or being with someone who's cheating on their partner, it's so disgusting how they defend this behavior just because they aren't together.
They clearly aren't nothing either if he had to make such promise.

It would be like going steadily to a date with someone, maybe you two are at you two had 20 or who knows how many dates, things are clearly serious even if not official, then you discover your date has been having sex with others while going on dates with you, that's disgusting and disrespectful, this is the same identical thing.
It's even worse because he actually promised him.

I wish that chapter would just disappear from this Manga, but it exist and they still got together as far as I've seen so it is what it is, but I expect Suzuki to tell him the truth and beg for forgiveness until the day he's a old man because he broke his trust, that's disgusting.

I swear I don't get how people can't understand that a relationship can be serious and exclusive even when not together.
It's one thing if he didn't promise and didn't feel anything to him, he didn't owe him exclusivity in that case, but he did promise, they did get to a point where their relationship was clearly on the exclusive side even if not together.

Thank fuck the movie removed the cheating part. That part completely ruined all the development and slowburn the author worked for and for WHAT.

Exactly.
The movie might be a bit rushed at the end and all, but I think compared to the original it is an improvement because it actually removed a lot of problematic stuff from the Manga and this cheating part (although people deny it's cheating just because they weren't dating, despite being serious enough to be exclusive/promise monogamy)
The slowburn and the passion/sexual tension between them was so good and then there's chapter 28 which is just disgusting.
I don't even remember if Suzuki came clean about it to Sugiki but I sure hope he did or it will be shown later on, I dropped it at chapter 28 the first time I read it, found out about the Netflix movie and decided to give it a try because I still liked the Manga/story, then decided to go back to the Manga but I don't have the same interest as I did.
I always hate Mangas with cheating, even if the two aren't together, it always, ALWAYS happen when the two are clearly in a scenario in which their relationship is exclusive even if still not together.
Why add such things for shock value when it just ruin everything and make the character bad?
Suzuki was way cuter/adorable in the movie as well, he was so sweet there compared to this version, I mean, he does start really sweet and clingy to Sugiki which is why the fact he slept with another man before Sugiki and even smiled so sweetly at Norman words is just so disgusting.
It felt like he was in love with him despite he literally spent all the time in the Manga clinging to him, I go back to read and apparently Suzuki (I think I saw him but I don't know) and Sugiki were in some guy bed with other naked people and apparently sex orgy happened but I can't understand what exactly happened, if that was Suzuki and if Suzuki and Sugiki had sex or if Sugiki had sex with someone else (and I don't think people who got technically cheated on should cheat but in this case if he did sleep with someone else I would say, good for him, Suzuki should get a taste of his own medicine) who did what with who, it feels like the story got worst from chapter 28 and onward.

I will try to read it again to understand better what's happening although it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to keep reading this, the story is literally losing itself and it's destroying all the build up from the previous chapters, I feel like if I keep reading this and this keeps getting updated eventually they will end up just taking part in orgies rather than actually becoming a couple, given apparently Sugiki did take part in one and another creepy old man was watching.

The feeling I get from this is like that disgusting rape fantasy Anime about idols or something, I thought it would be a cool Anime bl about idols but it clearly wasn't that.

10 Dance now just gives me the same impression as that idol rape anime.
That was literally the Boku no Pico of 2025 or whatever year it came out.

Also I want to make clear that I DON'T think cheating is worse than rape, far from it.
I phrased it wrong and I realized it only now and now I feel so bad about it because it came out really bad.
What I meant with them giving me the same vibes is that they both make me feel uncomfortable and disgusted, not that they are equal in severity of actions.

I'm pointing this out because I phrased wrong what I said in my answer and I don't want to make it look like I think cheating is equal to rape, how I phrased it made it look like I did and I keep feeling so bad about it

Are you on drugs?

No, but you surely are chronically online and probably a cheater yourself given how obsessed you are with yelling and insulting me because I read the Manga and didn't twist the ACTUAL MATERIAL to fit my agenda of "cheating is fine because they weren't together" despite Suzuki promised to be exclusive which can only be seen as one thing, they aren't dating but are clearly exclusive because of that phrase alone.

Damn your replies are fire,... I'm telling you I think they are cus yknow yknow, the whole back replies are telling me smth,

Yeah youre on drugs

You're so obsessed on me being on drugs I feel like you're projecting and you're the one on drugs.

Actually you know what?
If being a decent human beings with morals and a working brain means being on drugs according to you, then yeah, I'm on drugs.
I'm taking so many drugs you can't even imagine.

good for you.

yall calm down they will still end up together trust

Ughh I accidentally followed you... Anyway bro the thing is if we were children we would be so unserious about love, feelings or crushes but the fact is.. We are not, we are adults we what is right or wrong, a normal person would definitely won't like if the person there going to date later or just in situationship sleep around!!? Idk the way your talking as if this is a open relationship or maybe your a cheater your self...? Idk I would definitely won't accept this and so all the other sane people here except there are some too free minded people who think this is right, but funny it's not lol

Suzuki said right before it happened to Sugiki that he wouldn't sleep with other men, the Manga is still good and they ended up together so who cares, but it doesn't mean what he did isn't shitty and doesn't make sense as to why he would do it to begin with.
The movie might not be as good as the manga but at least it removed a lot of the problematic stuff this Manga had, including something that does count as cheating even if they were never together.

It's like you are going on a few dates with someone, you two aren't official but things are getting REALLY serious, then you discover your almost boyfriend slept with someone while going out with you.
It's still shitty and wrong, even if you two aren't officially dating.

People aren't overreacting, they are saying the truth/what's right, you shouldn't do this.

Yeah bro like seeing this shit (cheating) getting so normalized in mangas might be having effect on sm people brain and they be thinking “ oh this is normal, not that serious, it happens often , it's okay, no one can control themselves” . While it's totally wrong , ughh is it that hard to stay loyal? Why did you even make the other person like you, and impress and flirt with them and shit, make them have expectations and then go around and just have sex with some other person? Fuvk him

Ngl this phrase "NOT THAT SERIOUS" Is a new way for cheaters to cheat around

I really do hate BLs like this and it's just so sad usually it's the most good ones, you know?

When you know the character is shitty and the Manga/Manhua etc. is toxic (Jinx, BJ Alex and others toxic like or worse than those) you can quit it or keep reading it knowing to expect the other to be shitty, I feel less "uncomfortable" when the character is shitty because cheating still suck, but the character is so shitty you almost expect it.

With Suzuki?
I didn't.
Sure he slept around but he seemed genuinely loyal to Sugiki even if they weren't together, he promised he wouldn't sleep with others so it meant that while not boyfriends the relationship was serious and when it cut to him post sex with someone else my stomach dropped because he was so sweet to Sugiki all through the story, almost like a puppy.
If the guy I'm interested who's also clearly interested in me (even if we aren't dating, but exclusive enough to not be going with others) turns out to be having sex with other people I would straight up cry.

That is not ok, it's messed up, disrespectful and the most disgusting thing you could do to someone who you made believe things were exclusive even when not together yet.

Him promising that he wouldn't be sleeping with other guys literally makes it clear he's the one initiating a monogamous/exclusive dynamic even if not dating.
I wish chapter 28 disappeared, honestly, from 28 it got so bad, as if it changed writer midway.
From 28 and forward it should be rewritten completely.

The movie in my opinion is better because it removed a lot of the things that were wrong with this Manga.

I swear it's creepy how much cheating is being ignored or considered normal just because they weren't actually boyfriends.
It doesn't matter when Suzuki made it exclusive, you don't promise someone you won't have sex with others if it's not meant to be interpreted as an exclusive relationship.

Before chapter 28 things were still "friendly", not actually in love neither there was a promise of being exclusive, so if Suzuki met other people that's ok, he wasn't at a point where the two were actually invested in each other yet.
But after the train scene things definitely got serious, that's when even if not together the relationship was already leaning into exclusive territory and for a while before chapter 28 things remained like that.

Bro actually .. I have not red this manga that much , just less than 20 chaps cus things were getting bit too confusing for me and the sudden bomb that dropped after I saw in the comments that he cheated and people are actually getting mad at other people for feeling bad about it? Honestly I'm dropping this, ts is just not for... For the same reason I also dropped "kiss me liar" Cus that was even bigger shit

Oh and also I wasn't talking about sleeping around just guessing that when he did with the other person while having situationship going around with the sugiki he must have thought whatever deed (sex) he was doing wasn't that serious, just like this person who commented "are y'all children"

Yeah I know, I was just saying that at one point it was kinda understandable because although Suzuki gave him a little kiss on the lips the two of them were still kinda "neutral" about each other before the train scene, before that Suzuki was shown to be in his bed with a girl (if I'm not wrong) but that was before both actually developed feelings and before things got actually exclusive, like, right when they first met or something like that, so I didn't mind much.
At that point they really were nothing, after that Suzuki wasn't shown sleeping around anymore and was always with Sugiki then chapter 28 happened and the story went downhill from there.

I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense, this is mostly what I remember.

Suzuki was shown to sleep around two times, one was when they just met/were still not in love or close so they didn't own each other exclusivity, the second when they became exclusive although not together after Suzuki promised he wouldn't sleep with other men.

This is what I remember at least.
The point is, Suzuki suck and he's a cheater (also I think if I read correctly that at one point a orgy happened and Sugiki was participating in it, but I didn't bother reading everything because I was disgusted with the Manga, I remember seeing Sugiki in some man bed and this man said he enjoyed watching young people "move their hips" and Sugiki apparently slept with one of the 3 people there, one of them looked like Suzuki but I don't think/know if it was him, so in total it was Sugiki, the older man and 3 people and apparently a orgy happened but I really don't know, it seems like he did sleep with someone else but at that point Suzuki called things off with Sugiki so Sugiki didn't cheat compared to Suzuki because Suzuki broke things off after cheating on him, that's what I read through, I kinda skimmed through if that's how you say it, but I did stop for the important parts)

They wete never in an actual relationship. Tgey liked each other but didnt start a romantic relationship. They did nit cheat on each other. They agreeed to start befire suziki slept with nirman and sugiki had a threesome. You should probably reread

Your'e a fool with zero reading comprehension. Who yhe fucjk are you to question my morals over two fictional characters that were not on a romantic relationshipnad do slept with other people. Gtfo of my comment

They did not actually start a relationship before norman and the orgy. They went their seperate ways and stopped praticing together even

You probably need to revaluate your reading comprehension and morals.
If someone says "I won't sleep with other men" that means ONLY one thing, that the relationship is exclusive even if they aren't together.
That's a promise Suzuki made to Sugiki and didn't keep.
Even if they weren't together Suzuki PROMISED monogamy/an exclusive relationship.

You need to understand not being in a relationship doesn't mean things weren't serious/exclusive.
Suzuki MADE things exclusive the moment he said "I won't sleep with other guys" then did it anyway.

After that Suzuki broke things off and Sugiki took part in a orgy but given Suzuki broke things off that isn't cheating.

You need to understand that just because two people aren't together it doesn't mean it's not cheating.
They were clearly at a point where they were exclusive even if not in a relationship, it's literally in the Manga.

That only means one thing, they were serious about each other if Suzuki promised them that.
Just because they are fictional that doesn't mean you should throw your morality in the trashcan.

If Suzuki MADE IT EXCLUSIVE even if not in a relationship they were clear too close to go have sex with others.
You can't say my reading comprehension sucks when you don't even understand why they were already exclusive even if not together.

If things weren't serious Suzuki wouldn't have to say "I won't sleep with other men".

Oh looks like you get offended ohh I'm so sry, fr I thought maybe you do shits like this and thinks it's normal that's why your supporting this idea? But yknow yknow once a cheater is always a cheater especially if the main character is someone like playboy sleeping around, and then do this? I guess you also maybe support grape and shits cus that only happens in between fictional characters no? Lol

And also aren't you are too defensive for someone who is supposedly "right" Lol, calling us children just because we have emotions, feelings and shit, and maybe you seperate sex and relationship differently , or just too strongly with on the lables and shit? See love is isn't contractational shit it's pure, it starts with feelings and ends with loyalty but nowadays people have completely ruined the meaning, they don't care about anyone, but themselves.. People with different opinion can never have a actual conversation so just leave it

How are youvexclusive without a relationship? Exclusive to what? How are you exclusive when you dont see or talk to each other?

If YOU are going on steady dates with someone, ok?
You follow me up until there I assume.

You two have been going to dates, kissed, held hands and expressed affection to each other.

You two are NOT together but still having regular dates and exchange of affection, that means you two are currently being exclusive and shouldn't be meeting up with other people even if not together because things are getting serious.

Suzuki SAID "I won't sleep with other people/men", you remember that right?
That is a PROMISE OF EXCLUSIVITY, he promised Sugiki he WOULDN'T sleep with others.

So by default that means that he shouldn't be sleeping with other people and he PROMISED EXCLUSIVITY to Sugiki, broke his promise of exclusivity and then told Sugiki they can't be a thing.

If that isn't serious and Suzuki promising to be loyal although not together then what is?
You don't need to be together to be exclusive, you can't sleep around if you are trying to get with someone and you promised you wouldn't have sex with others.
That's the basic.

He slept with norman after they decided not to date

No, he slept with Norman after promising he won't sleep with other people THEN after breaking his promise he told Sugiki they shouldn't date.

He started sleeping with norman after nirman's sizter wedding.

yea and they even complaining about plot like …this is porn manhwa so why the hell need a good plot.

I agree. Also, I sometimes feel like everyone here is a kid or something. Complaining about this being an awful male fantasy. Guess what? Women can fantasize about something like this too, and many actually do.

Exactly. Most of the comments hating it read the exact same thing except that it's yaoi/gay

You know how they say that homophobia is rooted in repressed homosexuality? It appears the same thing applies here. Oh, look, a girl being pleasured by multiple men! Soooo awful, clearly a male fantasy guys, fyi, most men fantasize about being with several women at the same time, not sharing one woman with several other men.

Several bls without rape, here you are is literally in the top of the shounen ai section.