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I’m looking for a manhwa (I think?) that’s particularly hard to find.
From what I remember, the seme is a tall man in armor. He’s possibly affected by a curse and constantly wears the armor. We see him take it off once, and his skin is literally black (not just dark-skinned). Without the curse, he’s very handsome with long blond hair.
As for the uke, I’m not really sure anymore. I think he might be some kind of bandit? Or a magician? I’m not sure… But I believe he has red hair? I think?
My memory is failing me! Help!
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People who like yaoi with REAL sex scene but they don't find this normal the "uncensored" version... I mean they are schoked by this, and don't like it.... while they are LITTERALLY here for a yaoi with a real sexual (hard) content. I mean either you like sex scene in yaoi, either you don't like that, why are u surprised when this uncensored, like If you watched an innocent version .... XD
I feel like they're most likely all kids who never seen a dick before.
im not sexually attracted to men so seeing uncensored dicks just feels strange to me LMAO im fine with it tho obviously im just like “woah :O…okay”
you could say I like the sexual tension and expressions in them more than the actual dicks. Like, I like the touching and kissing and staring
Bc it been censored for too long that I forgot what it look like- and we it get uncensored out of nowhere it kinda scare me-
I m also one of them I don't like to see dicks much literally if story is good it should not have visible dick I m straight girl and I never find sex scenes beautiful if dicks aren't censored , prolly fujoshis just like to see guys with and psycho or good personality .
With abs (and nice body )
ok but really, is there anyone who likes the appearance of dicks? like, objectively, they really aren't appealing UNLESS it belongs to someone you love. like the only times we encounter them are either during sex or sexual harrassment. also, bl dicks are drawn unusually large it's actually scary, like it's ok if it's a white spot but uncensored dicks really do look like a cactus sometimes it's just not pleasing to MY eyes
This is a little hypocritical... You like all the body but one little party you don't like it ? And in general, all the entire body in yaoi is "unusually large" "scary" chest, height, hand... Generally where you describe this genre of anatomy, the rest is the same...
I said this about people who watch yaoi with "sexual content" visible and clear (so I don't talk about shonen ai or yaoi with "shy" sexual content) I don't find it logical that you accept a CLEAR sexual content but surprised with real visible dick... That's absurd for me, it's like you open a hentai and is surprised by the scene...
BAHAHAHAHA Im sorry your answer is so funny hahaha
Yeah totally but when you know that this is a yaoi with "sexual content clear and visible", you musn't complain about visible dicks uncensored X) you totally can't like it, but anycases don't read, this is useless to complain like "stop to give uncensored version with visible dick" This is the main purpose of yaoi to have sexual content if you don't like it read a shonen ai...
You totally can not like it*
honestly, what you said is true that's why I lean more towards mangas where the proportions are more reasonable.
well I wouldn't tell them to stop uncensoring dicks because that's their choice. But you're right, I don't read anything with uncensored dicks lmao.
Either way I m fine as long as characters are fine and good-looking lol I mean even If it's visible or not I guess it depends on moood
Pls- I was trynna explain why I'm scared of it in the easiest way possible- and I think ppl can relate to it too-
Don't worry I understand haha you honesty is awesome
I’m sorry, but I just cannot read this kind of story.
I absolutely despise the trope where the ML sleeps with the MC after committing torture, rape, mass murder—take your pick—and then the narrative has the audacity to frame it as some grand, tragic, romantic love story. Oh yes, nothing says “soulmates” like a little light war crime and sexual assault.
And sure, I can already hear it: “But Anteros isn’t that evil, you’ll see! There are reasons! Trauma! Political manipulation! Misunderstandings!” Spare me. You can stack up all the tragic backstory and moral gymnastics you want to justify his massacres and his rape of the MC—it doesn’t change the starting point. The guy slaughtered people and then forces the MC into a marital relationship with the man who murdered the brother he loved most. But yes, please, tell me more about how this is romantic.
And I can see the twist coming from a mile away: “Actually, the brother was the real villain.” Of course he was. Shocking. Groundbreaking. Never been done before. And my response is: so what?
The rape is still there. The murders are still there. The forced marriage is still there. The crimes don’t magically evaporate because the script hands the murderer a sad backstory and a smoldering gaze.
I’m so tired of stories that commit narrative laundering—scrubbing away atrocities, romanticizing abuse, and acting like love is some kind of moral bleach that makes everything sparkly and acceptable. It’s not edgy. It’s not deep. It’s just gross.
I don’t think you actually read There’s no twist. We know the fanily and his brother are evil since chapter 1?? And the fact that the ML murdered royalty is justified when they’re the tyrants making every civilian’s life miserable by keeping them poor & dumb but yea sure he’s sooooo terrible.
So not only did you not really read my comment, you didn’t read the first chapter of this yaoi either… even though I was very clearly talking about the brother. Bold approach—debating a story you’ve mostly experienced through vibes.
In those early chapters, it’s the family that’s obviously messed up. The brother, on the other hand, is set up as a delayed twist—because he’s the one the MC is in love with. That’s just how basic drama works. If we already know from page one that he’s a bad guy, congratulations, you’ve successfully removed the tragedy and replaced it with a checklist.
So no, we don’t know he’s “evil” right away. At most, there’s a mild “hmm, something’s off” feeling—courtesy of the genre doing its usual thing—but nothing you can honestly treat as confirmed. Subtlety is still alive at that point. It hasn’t been quietly euthanized yet.
So let’s not call this bad faith—let’s call it what it is: confidently arguing from a version of the story that exists only in your head.
Because really, debating off an imaginary summary is impressive. It’s like literary analysis, but with none of the reading getting in the way. Very efficient.
And no, nothing justifies murder. If your moral framework is “yeah, but they started it,” that’s not philosophy—that’s playground logic with a higher kill count.
“They killed his family so he can do the same” — great, we’ve reinvented revenge and decided to market it as justice.
At this point, we might as well commit to the bit:
Revenge 4 – The Cousins Strike Back (still not over it)
Revenge 5 – This Time It’s Personal (again, somehow)
Revenge 6 – We Forgot the Plot but Not the Grudge
I think they assumed he's evil because Anteros said that he has the most control over his siblings which means he could have told them to stop bullying Psyche but he didn't which means that something is definitely wrong with him for someone who claims to "love" him.
I'm not saying I'm defending Anteros but that's just my take on Michelle. While inherently that doesn't automatically say that he's evil, it does send a very weird vibe on someone who's supposedly such a kind soul. He could be neither evil nor good as well.
The point of my message wasn’t to hear “ the family is mean” I don’t care. Here's a fact : being surrounded by toxic people has never been a free pass to rape, kill, and massacre.
What really gets me is this ability to turn atrocities into romance. He rapes? He’s traumatized. He kills? They had it coming. At that point, just give him a crown and call it divine right.
The MC genuinely loved his brother. So “yeah but he was awful” — okay, and? Since when does being an asshole justify getting murdered?
But sure, if the ML is hot and emotionally broken, everything gets a pass. Rape, murder, massacre — no problem. He’s sad… and he loves the MC, so he’s “safe.” Of course. He loves him so much he forces him into marriage — AMAZING.
If people are into that, fine. But at least own it. When I see people saying “rape is okay in some cases, it helps move the story forward,” we’re not even in fiction anymore — that’s Olympic-level mental gymnastics.
The worst part isn’t even the story. It’s that moment where people see something clearly horrible… and still go “yeah but…
fam ML hasn't really done any of that? He formed a rebellion and slaughtered the royal family bc they were hoarding gold and starving the people so its not like he did it for fun or bc he wanted to take control of the nation? Why are you defending corrupt royalty/nobles?? A rebellion is 100% justified in those circumstances imo.
+ And as for the r*pe tbh its just kind of a bad plot point like ML ASKED MC to marry him, MC accepted. If MC didn't know what was expected of him + his duties as a wife then that is on him NOT the ML lol. (If anything i was surprised he accepted so quickly? There was 0 thoughts about whether or not his gender would be discovered and the consequences that would follow which is CRAZY) it's not like MC got locked up in a tower with 0 company since birth, so he has no excuse to be THAT ignorant?? Idk I do wish that had been executed better LOL
+ i get that It was either be killed (bc he is part of the royal family) or marry him but thats just how it is in historical settings. YOU might be innocent but if ur second cousin twice removed insults someone in power YOU are going to pay for it as well bc ur family! That's like basic 101 stuff for historical setting manhwa whether it's BL or not!!!!!!
+ it never just got brushed off that the ML killed MCs beloved brother just bc he is sus?? MC isn't trusting of ML no matter what ML says and just wants to use him to find out more about his brother, he still doesn't trust ML and is questioning EVERYTHING, that's the price ML is paying!!! MCs distrust/closed off heart!!!
+ Once MC finds out that the brother he loved and hoped to rescue him was a made up fantasy created by a heartless, corrupt, disgusting person ofc it makes sense for him to forgive the ML?? Like why wouldn't he?? He might even thank him for opening his eyes LOL
+ As for the rest of the murders of the royal family, why should MC give a f*ck about them when they treated him like sh!t and where just overall bad people ??? That "mass slaughter" should have nothing to do with whether or not MC forgives ML LOL
aside from them there is not murders/torture/edginess?? I feel like everything is pretty solid so far as of chapter 13 anyway LOL
fam ML hasn't really done any of that? He formed a rebellion and slaughtered the royal family bc they were hoarding gold and starving the people so its not like he did it for fun or bc he wanted to take control of the nation? Why are you defending corrupt royalty/nobles?? A rebellion is 100% justified in those circumstances imo.
+ And as for the r*pe tbh its just kind of a bad plot point like ML ASKED MC to marry him, MC accepted. If MC didn't know what was expected of him + his duties as a wife then that is on him NOT the ML lol. (If anything i was surprised he accepted so quickly? There was 0 thoughts about whether or not his gender would be discovered and the consequences that would follow which is CRAZY) it's not like MC got locked up in a tower with 0 company since birth, so he has no excuse to be THAT ignorant?? Idk I do wish that had been executed better LOL
+ i get that It was either be killed (bc he is part of the royal family) or marry him but thats just how it is in historical settings. YOU might be innocent but if ur second cousin twice removed insults someone in power YOU are going to pay for it as well bc ur family! That's like basic 101 stuff for historical setting manhwa whether it's BL or not!!!!!!
+ it never just got brushed off that the ML killed MCs beloved brother just bc he is sus?? MC isn't trusting of ML no matter what ML says and just wants to use him to find out more about his brother, he still doesn't trust ML and is questioning EVERYTHING, that's the price ML is paying!!! MCs distrust/closed off heart!!!
+ Once MC finds out that the brother he loved and hoped to rescue him was a made up fantasy created by a heartless, corrupt, disgusting person ofc it makes sense for him to forgive the ML?? Like why wouldn't he?? He might even thank him for opening his eyes LOL
+ As for the rest of the murders of the royal family, why should MC give a f*ck about them when they treated him like sh!t and where just overall bad people ??? That "mass slaughter" should have nothing to do with whether or not MC forgives ML LOL
aside from them there is not murders/torture/edginess?? I feel like everything is pretty solid so far as of chapter 13 anyway LOL
Yeah, so this is where we’re at. Amazing.
So the summary is: family massacre, brother’s head on a spike, the MC chained up, forced into marriage… and suddenly, because there’s a “yes” under duress, it’s called romance. Perfect. Rape gets validated (“well he said ‘yes,’ so he deserved it!”), and then ABRACADABRA—magical consent that somehow justifies it.
Honestly, it takes some nerve to call this anything other than what it is: rape. At this point, it’s not interpretation anymore, it’s comfortable denial.
And somehow I’m the one “defending villains” because I’m pointing out that murder + rape = a problem? Did we skip a few steps here?
The classic “he had no choice, poor baby”… yeah, sure. Because when you see your brother’s head on a spike, your entire family slaughtered in front of you, and you’re chained up like a slave, the normal reaction is: “hmm yes, very nuanced situation, I’m on board, living my BEST life right now.” Flawless logic.
And the marriage part is even better: wartime violence, massacre, chains, trauma = “yes” = consent. What an incredible magic trick.
But hey, everything gets a pass because the character is “charismatic.” Apparently that turns crimes into romance. Someone should let the courts know, it could really streamline things.
The real issue isn’t even how dark the story is. It’s the romanticization—by the author and by people like you who treat this like some kind of Twilight-style love story.
Seriously, get me out of this nightmare. Where are the normal people who agree that murder and rape are NOT okay under ANY circumstances ?
Like I agree after the forced marriage forward is rape but you're sounding like a libtard going on about "murder isn't ok under any circumstances", do you not learn anything from history at all? The french revolution? You think the royal family is going to stop killing civilians via starvation if the people asked nicely?? The ML and the people are justified for killing the Royal family, everything else happening after that is regular yaoi rape slop idc
HAHAHA.
Well, you picked the wrong person for that. I’m French. So either you are French as well and have a poor understanding of our own country’s history, or you are not and are looking at it through the overly simplified lens taught to children around the age of ten.
Let’s keep it simple, even if the topic is a bit off the original context: reducing the French Revolution to “it was the monarchy’s fault” is historically inaccurate. The Revolution, as commonly presented, emerged from a major economic and social crisis that had been building for years. The monarchy was already in decline, weakened, and facing deep structural and institutional blockages.
And meanwhile, who were among the powerful groups of the time? The high bourgeoisie.
The great revolutionary figures did not magically emerge from an oppressed “people”. Many came from the elite classes: liberal nobles or wealthy bourgeois professionals. They were educated, connected to power circles, and sometimes rich. The Revolution did not eliminate elites; it largely replaced a noble elite with a bourgeois one. Power structures were transformed, not destroyed.
And speaking of the guillotine, since symbolism is often discussed: those who executed Louis XVI later sent their own colleagues to death. Danton, and then Robespierre himself, ended up under the same blade. The Revolution first beheaded the king… and then devoured its own architects.
So no, French history cannot be reduced to a moral fairy tale with evil nobles and a pure heroic people. It was a complex political process shaped by interest conflicts, personal ambitions, internal rivalries, and social restructuring.
In short: let’s avoid childish versions when discussing such a dense historical event.
It was literally just an example that the common people should start killing people at the top or else they end up like america now in reply to your murder is never ok comment, if they next people who takes power do bad things again the commoner should start killing them AGAIN, do you agree or not? it's a simple question
"It takes some nerve to call this anything other than what it is" i called it rape??? It IS rape and i did say that it should have been executed better if the author didnt want it to come across as rape. Fam look at my page if you dont believe me im the first person to call out SA/Rape in BLs LOL
"And somehow, Im the one defending the villains" i mean...are you not? You sound like you're going super hard for them right now LOL what else am i supposed to think? Or are you the type of person who believes murder isnt okay no matter how despicable a person is? Bc if so again it's jst a difference of opinion, most of us dont wanna be THAT sanctimonious
"When you see your brother's head on a spike, your entire family slaughtered in front of you...BEST life right now" I MEAN if your family abused you all your life I would say FUCK yeah?? LOL ive read bxg manhwa where the ML kills the FLs abusive family and she cheers!! (Sometimes even the FL plots to kill them!! Yayyyy) like i agree with that reaction LOL the only reason its framed as a bad thing atm is bc 1. Uke is soft asf and 2. That snake of a brother put on the "nice guy act" which is making the uke confused
"Everything gets a pass bc the character is charismatic" again even if the ML was an ugly NPC i would still agree with his actions of starting a revolution and killing the royal family?? That has nothing to do with looks LOL (but yeah i wouldnt wanna read ugly bastard x pretty uke hentai i admit sue me!!)
"Murder is not okay under any circumstances" we're gonna have to agree to disagree there bc I still dont think the ML did anything wrong in killing the royal family for the better of the people LOL like it would have been one thing if he killed them for fun, then yeah i would have agreed that hes a crazy bastard (BUT I STILL WOULD HAVE LIKED HIM LOL) but there was a good reason and that changes things imo context matters if it doesnt for you then yeh not ur type of story lol
"[And rape]" rape? yeah i agree its never okay lol and completely inexcusable if that turned you off the story that completely understandable imo
Lastly "its the romanticization" tbh idc im shameless about liking morally dark characters LOL like yeah and its gonna keep happenings!! if evil why hot?? I let go of anything a character does unless its
1. Rape
2. Cheating
3. Being annoying
Like those 3 are my bottom line LOL
Did you actually read the main comment or my other replies, or were you just training for competitive scrolling? That was literally the entire foundation of my first comment. I stated clearly that murder is unjustifiable. No hidden footnote. No secret bonus level. Just no.
And yet you come back with a remixed version of the exact opposite question, like we’re trying to unlock an alternate ending to a sentence that already ended. There isn’t some hidden gray area waiting behind a paywall.
So either we’re revisiting basic reading comprehension, or we’re debating a position I never held in the first place. At this point, it’s almost impressive.
I’m not defending anyone. I’m just stating a basic principle you learn before you even learn to read: killing is wrong. Rape is wrong. Even when the target is a “bad person.” That’s not controversial. It’s the bare minimum.
You can analyze the trauma, go into detail about the MC’s family’s crimes, write an entire saga about the ML’s suffering. Fine. But explaining a murder doesn’t turn it into something poetic. A revenge killing shot in soft lighting with sad music in the background is still a murder. If the story treats that detail as secondary, that’s exactly the problem. Aesthetic framing doesn’t change the nature of the act.
Criticizing a character doesn’t mean siding with their enemies. If any nuance is treated as betrayal, that’s not discussion anymore — that’s devotion.
I have nothing against the MC as a personality. Being calm isn’t a flaw. What’s shocking is how he’s written: he’s shaken for about thirty seconds, then the outrage disappears while he sleeps with the man who killed his family. Yes, he reacts — there’s even that prayer scene — but it’s so weak it feels decorative.
“They were bad people” has never been a moral principle. Suffering doesn’t grant a license to destroy. Otherwise anyone who’s been hurt gets to be judge, jury, and executioner — and that’s just chaos.
Refusing that logic isn’t being rigid. It’s refusing to mistake dramatic intensity for moral direction.
"Bare minimum" i guess most of us dgaf ? You can stick to being a saint ill stick to my belief that corrupt royals that hoard gold and let their people starve deserve to get beheaded lol it is what it is.
"Sleeps with the man who killed his family" once again his "family" ABUSED him bro so who cares!!!! Like what's not clicking?!?!! This MC and I just have different morals than the grand tolerable you LOL
"Suffering doesnt grant license to destroy" im genuinely laughing and rolling my eyes at you like what?? Go be a holy mary somewhere else with all this preaching bro maybe go reread the bible or smthing you're starting to sound like the type LOL leave the horrible immortal BL to us big terrible bad guys that can handle it
+ I'm one of the types that LOVESa good revenge story whether its bxb or bxg or gxg so tbh again we're jst too different in opinion to keep going lol you wont change my mind and i wont change urs!
Oh, so just saying “killing is not cool” and bam!—suddenly I’m canonized, express lane to Saint Morality. Bravo humanity, you’ve hit rock bottom and you’re still digging like it’s an Olympic sport. In 2026, this is the hot debate? Let me spell it out: killing is WRONG. Like reminding everyone that water is wet or fire burns. But noooo, apparently I’m some kind of arrogant monster for daring to state the obvious. Thanks for the trophy—I’ll hang it next to my degree in “Captain Obvious.”
And I’m not judging that you’re into revenge stories or that the ML is mowing people down in the plot. No, the real crime is this romanticized garbage: making it look like an asshole who starts a civil war and massacres people is “stylish and cool.” Spoiler alert: it’s not. In real life, nobody hands you a cape and a soundtrack when you’re exacting revenge—you’re just a slightly sweaty primate with too many hormones and bad taste.
Yeah, I read revenge stories too. But if I seriously think about it, sure, I enjoy a story where someone’s a total dirtbag— do you really think I’d applaud and throw confetti like it’s a parade? No. I’d roll my eyes so hard I’d see my own brain, sigh, and mutter that humanity really deserves its prime spot at the bottom of the evolutionary ladder. Not even capable of thinking: “maybe getting off on revenge killings is a little… pathetic.
"Apparently im some kind of arrogant monster" if the shoe fits? Anyway you're being SOMETHING alright which is a stick in the mud tbh a boring preachy holier than thou dull fuddy duddy is what you sound like lol
I'll keep throwing confetti and romanticizing all of the hot, dirt bag asshole MLs and FLs that start civil wars and massacres you go??? idk go reread the bible and mourn for the corruption and loss of humanity or whatever it is you do lol byeeee
I was debating on the position that ML murdering MC's family is justified in opposite to yours and takes irl as an example of it, but you don't change your mind even if the universal truth that everybody knows that death and murder in revolution is inevitable and evil people should be killed, so you really is a centrist libtard
W.T.F, seriously? Why do you have this compulsive need to politicize everything?
You say something objectively horrible, you know perfectly well it’s horrible, and to get out of it you pull the classic: “If it was inevitable, why are you judging?”
Classic.
Except you’re mixing everything up. Inevitable does not mean justified. Just because a situation “inevitably” leads to murder doesn’t morally absolve you. Fatality is not the same thing as absolution.
But in your logic, if it was bound to happen, then boom, validated? That’s a comfortable moral framework: zero responsibility, everything is “the context.” Convenient. Erase the act, keep the excuse.
Let’s take a concrete example: self-defense. Yes, sometimes it’s a dilemma. Yes, sometimes it’s a tragic outcome that was hard to avoid. But nobody says, “Honestly? Fair play! GG for the headshot.” They just say: he was cornered. Murder is still murder. We acknowledge the constraint; we don’t hand out certificates of moral purity. We recognize a tragedy — we don’t celebrate a move.
And when you talk about revolution or revenge? Massacring a family, killing civilians, settling scores in the name of a cause — that’s justified too? Suddenly, the word “inevitable” becomes a classy wrapper to avoid using the accurate word: massacre.
Your logic is: “It was bound to happen, so it’s okay.” Great. Should we throw confetti too?
Even in self-defense, nobody says “nice one, champ, clean kill.” We just admit there wasn’t a clear alternative. You want to apply that same reasoning to someone who consciously chooses to carry out a massacre, as if it were a natural disaster. “Oh sorry, it was the weather…”
And if we push your reasoning all the way? The MC should kill the ML — after all, he was assaulted, the ML killed his family. So what? That makes it fine? And then what are you going to say? “Yeah but they started it.” Seriously? Are we in elementary school?
Do you realize how ridiculous that position sounds? The more you confuse explanation with justification, the more you turn every atrocity into a mere logical consequence. And that’s not deep. It’s just dangerous.
No actually I think the MC should revenge the ML because that's from his point of view and it's logical duh.., from the outsider point of view the ML MASSACRED the royal family is JUSTIFIED, I didn't make everything political THE STORY IS POLITICAL, ask every regular person right now if they think self defense is morally justified and they'd say yes only YOU acting like a saint would be like "uh murder is still murder hur hur" . Nothing I said was horrible because the act of killing oppressor is not horrible, you need to get off your high horse and look at the reality already
Are you also one of those people that say shit like "people shouldn't go around punching Nazis because violence is bad and the Nazis are just doing free speech"? Like be so for real right now cause it sounds like you're there
No, seriously — do you actually hear yourself?
So the MC gets revenge on the ML. Fine. Then the ML’s cousin avenges him. Then the MC’s sister avenges the cousin. Then the neighbor jumps in out of “principle.” What’s next — a generational revenge subscription plan? A publicly funded Department of Grudges?
At that point, we’re not sustaining a society — we’re greenlighting Vendetta: The Extended Family Saga and pretending it qualifies as governance.
Oh, you want to politicize absolutely everything? Even a random yaoi somehow turns into a sweeping ideological manifesto. But here, when the internal logic of your position leads straight to endless bloodshed, suddenly we’re not discussing long-term consequences anymore.
We didn’t criminalize murder as some decorative moral gesture. We did it because without that basic line, you don’t get justice — you get escalation. “Killing is wrong” isn’t sainthood. It’s Civilization 101. Like “don’t assault people.” It’s not a halo-worthy achievement; it’s the bare minimum required for a functional society.
And in politics, by the way, there are no pure “good guys” and “bad guys.” That’s narrative convenience, not political reality. The world is complex, incentives are messy, and power structures are rarely moral fairy tales — which is exactly why you cannot build a system around personal revenge fantasies.
Vengeance feels satisfying in fiction because the credits roll. In real life, the cycle doesn’t end. It expands.
If everything has to be political, start with something foundational: conflicts are not resolved by piling up bodies. Otherwise, yes — we might as well start drafting humanity’s resignation letter now.
Oh please, stop pulling out the Nazi card like it’s some automatic moral win button. That’s not an argument — it’s a reflex.
Go read actual historians. Serious scholars. People who’ve spent decades buried in archives. Not one of them reduces the subject to “they were evil, end of story.” That’s not how academic history works. It’s not a Marvel script with clearly labeled villains.
When you talk about Nazis, you’re talking about a political regime. A state apparatus. A mass political party — the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. That wasn’t just soldiers in black uniforms. It was a party that permeated every layer of society: administration, schools, youth organizations, workplaces, families, social networks.
So in your logic of collective elimination, who exactly are you talking about? Fathers. Mothers. Teenagers indoctrinated through state youth programs. Civil servants. Neighbors. Entire communities absorbed into a regime structure. That’s what a totalitarian party does — it embeds itself everywhere.
Reducing all of that to “they were the bad guys, we kill them all” isn’t morally strong. It’s intellectually lazy.
Historians work precisely on the uncomfortable complexity: individual responsibility, degrees of complicity, coercion versus conviction, opportunism, fear, ideology, institutional structures, chains of command. They study how regimes function, how ordinary people become participants, how systems normalize atrocity. They don’t sort history into cartoon categories of “good” and “evil” and call it a day.
Because in politics — especially when studying totalitarian regimes — simplistic moral binaries are useless. We’re dealing with systems, incentives, propaganda, careerism, survival strategies, and social pressure. Entire societies reshaped by power structures. That doesn’t get resolved by fantasies of indiscriminate eradication.
What you’re proposing, at its core, is collective guilt without distinction. Modern rule-of-law systems were built explicitly against that principle: individual criminal responsibility, trials, evidence, proportionality. Not “you were on the wrong side of history, therefore you’re all equally disposable.”
Flattening decades of rigorous academic research into “they were the villains, eliminate them” isn’t bold. It’s a refusal to engage with reality.
So yes — please. Read the scholars. The real world is far more disturbing, and far more instructive, than a moral slogan.
average frenchman
And still above you
Hmmmm I get the sentiment but honestly this story is really not even that bad. Compared to what's mainstream right now, this is actually kinda tame. Ok, maybe worse for you since killing seems to be a complete no-go for you but, like most of the other people replying, I don't mind it when it's justified. And stopping a few corrupt royals from killing even more people is a good enough justification for me.
Also, you're arguing like this is some high literature piece while it's literally just porn. The romanticization is needed bc otherwise the genre would be horror/tragedy with the sheer amount of graphic sex scenes in here.
But in the first place, I don't think this manhwa is even worth all your energy, as it's most likely AI slop. Or at least the art is, in part. The anatomy is kinda wacky the whole way through but there are some mistakes that a human usually wouldn't make, like the uke's inner and outer thigh lines merging together in chapter 3, or one of the uke's balls disappearing behind his leg bone when his legs are spread (I forgot the chapter).