not that i dislike her or anything. whenever i read stories where the MC is supposed to die eventually, i always end up hoping the author actually commits to it instead of having everyone dote on the MC and somehow find a way to save them (or giving up on killing them) lol
i know that’s probably not where this story is going, but i can’t help feeling a little disappointed every time i remember it cuz it could be so interesting
I know this might not even belong here and there’s a good chance I originally read it on nhentai, but I have nowhere else to ask and it could’ve been a manga/manhwa for all I remember lol. The MC (I think) was a guy who crossdressed as a girl to lure predators, but then he would turn the tables on them and sexually assault them instead. That’s literally all I remember, but I’m almost certain I read something like this before. If anyone has any idea what it was called, I’d really appreciate it (╥﹏╥)
lol, I just have a feeling that if the top/bottom roles were reversed, more people would side with him. I mean, imagine you think you have a friend and a safe place, just to find out he wanted to fuck you and his mother feels contempt towards you. Then later, you start feeling a family-like bond with a guy, just to find out he wanted to fuck you too( ̄へ ̄)
If you have ever had a friendship with a guy that turned out to have a crush on you, you probably know how shitty it is, but in this case, he has a traumatic experience related to that, so it's much shittier. So as a result he prompted a physical relationship to fill the void inside him…
Idk, for me, they are all miserable and I don't see why people hate him so much. Of course he was wrong, but isn't the point of this plot to follow his character development? If you are unable to accept that he changed as a person, isn't it just looking for reasons to get upset? ( ̄∇ ̄")
Having a crush on someone is not a bad thing omg all u have to do is fucking reject the person the hyung never tried anything geopol initiated their sexual relationship stop trying to make it look like the hyung wanted a sexual and or romantic relationship exchange of his job, or his house or his family he helped him with no expectations he wasn’t holding anything over geopil head
It's not a bad thing to have a crush, but I am saying that from his POV, it must have felt devastating. Finding out a friend has feelings for you changes the dynamic, it means it was never a purely familial relationship. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Also, please don't twist my words. I never said the hyung wanted a sexual exchange. My point was that geopil facilitated a physical relationship after discovering the crush because he felt emotionally betrayed and isolated. You might think his reasoning is silly, but it makes perfect psychological sense when you look at his backstory. (⌒▽⌒)
It was a messy, flawed action, but it wasn't purely malicious, and he explicitly acknowledges that. How is it as monstrous as people are making it out to be? He didn't manipulate or abuse the hyung, he just slept with him while ignoring his feelings. It was selfish, but it wasn't abusive.
He literally knew it was a bad thing to do and kept doing it there’s no excuse
I literally just said it was a wrong and selfish action, so I'm glad we agree on that. (≖_≖ )
My point is just about where his head was at and how he grows from it later, not that what he did was okay. There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation. He is a character with a bad personality that was hurt and acted out in a messy way. He was wrong, he knows it, and he changes. That's just how stories work. Though at this point, I’m not sure if you’re actually struggling to understand basic character development, or if you just lack the reading comprehension to follow my comments. I guess if a story doesn't have a perfectly flawless protagonist, it’s just too hard for some readers to grasp. (⌒▽⌒)
The point of a redemption arc or character development is that they do bad things, realize it, and change. If characters were perfect from the start, there would be no story. In the end, we're talking about two different things. You're judging the morality of the action, and I'm pointing out the motivation behind it. Let's just agree to disagree ^_^
Your og comment is trying to excuse his actions bro
I will actually defend him a little I’m sorry ╥﹏╥ but I do think he slept with his Hyung because he thought he would have to leave him behind if he didn’t. Ofc, the hyung didn’t force that upon him, it was just what Geonpil felt and interpreted based on his previous trauma and fear of abandonment. Also, imo, depression.
He did a bad thing because he wanted to stay surrounded by his chosen family. He used someone he considered an older brother because he knew he wasn’t the best personality wise so it was the only way to keep him close (in Geonpil’s mind). Was it wrong? Yes! Did he do it just because he was evil? Hell no. He just wanted to keep having a roof over his head next to the only person who makes him feel at home, even if that means pushing his platonic feelings aside and sleeping with them.
Yeah, and the fact that he recognized that and wanted to make amends is exactly what makes me sympathize with him. When you’re caught in an emotional situation like that, you don't have the luxury of analyzing things from an outsider's point of view like we do. Being able to eventually put your feelings aside, face reality, and understand how your actions and assumptions hurt the person you love (platonically) is something to be proud of (๑•ᗝ•)૭
Trying to understand a character's motives isn't necessarily 'defending' or 'excusing' them when you explicitly acknowledge that what they did was wrong. For me, the issue is that some people act like he’s the trashiest, most malicious asshole alive. He wasn't being sadistic, and he wasn't thriving or enjoying making a mess of things, they both had good and bad moments together, Hyung wasn't going through hell either. It was explicitly shown from the start that the hyung is mentally unstable too, so blaming the entire ordeal on Geonpil is plain silly and flattens the story ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
The hyung had to literally die for him to recognise shit
Yes, a tragedy forced him to open his eyes and face the weight of his actions. That is called a plot catalyst. It’s how storytelling works (ᗜ _ ᗜ)
Yeah and he’s still a pos that such a tragedy is what made him realise what he was doing is wrong thats literally the point that it took that big of a situation for him to realise
You are literally just describing how a plot catalyst works and pretending it's an argument. Yes, it took a massive tragedy to wake him up, that is exactly how flawed characters are written in a dramatic narrative arc ∘ ∘ ∘ ( °ヮ° ) ?
Honestly, it’s exhausting dealing with readers who treat stories like a purity test. Refusing to engage with a plot with any shred of nuance, just to cling to an easy sense of moral superiority, completely flattens the writing. If a character has to be perfectly moral from start to finish for you to accept their trajectory, there’s no point in discussing it anymore since that’s your view and I'm not here to change it.
I already suggested we agree to disagree, but you chose to keep engaging in bad faith. Before, you twisted my words by claiming I implied the hyung wanted a sexual exchange for the house/job (which I never did), and now you're just arguing with basic literary sense. I think this exchange is hopeless and don’t want to talk to you anymore. Take this as me giving up and you winning and making your point if you want. At this point, it just feels like ragebait anyway ( – ⌓ – )=3
Please, do not reply (..◜ᴗ◝..)
It is the plot catalyst but he’s still a shit person that it took such a big thing to realise he was in the wrong???
brooo are u rage baiting omg:((
shhh is okay! people who have trauma and possibly mental issues do take longer to realize their own wrongdoings (or act upon them), specially when they lack a good support system (uninvolved to the issue that is). That’s lit geonpil case, hope you understand :3