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i hope ur pillow stays cold i hope u never run into a red light i hope youre never inconveiencd in life i hope u find true love ur the goat for this
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is communication really the antidote to any relationship? alot of the comments act like it is when i dont think it is. it really depends on the nature of the relationship, like in a typical 'right person wrong time' kind of relationship and relationships with mentally unstable people with personal burdens to deal with. for these people, sure some may benefit from relationships but they are often not in the right space to be in a relationship in the first place. many comments just assume that communcation will save any relationship when in reality its much more complex than that. while communication can do wonders, the relationship itself may not be saved if its foundation is not there in the first place (does that make sense)
anyway what inspired this is 'incidentally dyed in spring' or something by the author of wolf in the house. im just curious to see what people think
also im in no way implying that ppl with mental illnesses cant be in a relationship (i just realised it may come off that way), but that some ppl are simply not ready to be in one
Ohh interesting looking manga. Also yeah, its more complex than just “talk and everything will sort out”. Communication can be unhealthy. Boundaries are king (=・ω・=)
Communication can save or kill a relationship as it entirely depends on your partner's attitude. But from my experience it is toxic and hard to be in a relationship with a person who has mental illness. My ex would threaten me that he would commit suicide if I break up with him. My tip is to first check a person's attitude and mental stability because you want to spend your time wisely on a proper person.
Ngl thats pretty unfair~ your exes issue wasn’t their mental illness. Partners can be abusive w/o mental illness and mental illness isn’t a predictor. That’s like saying “dont date someone who looks unhealthy because they could have a chronic illness and youd have to take care of them. Find someone easier instead”. *Everyone* has issues in their life, a partners meant to understand and help with them.
i agree with your sentiments here. while i a hundred percent support open communications in any relationship we also still have to realize that some relationships aren't as salvageable. don't make "oh we just haven't talked it out" and "we lacked communication" an excuse to still stay in your relationship, especially if its toxic/abusive. sometimes, even when you talk and communicate to a person they won't always want to hear you out and listen. sometimes if a person doesn't want to hear something they just keep their ears closed and not respect you wishes.
please, if anyone is in that kind of a relationship where you feel like you're slowly losing your voice even with all the communication you try to give them. if anyone wants to hurt you both physically and emotionally for wanting to be open with each other and talk. and if anyone feels like their partner is being toxic and manipulating them into thinking that staying in this relationship is for the best regardless of how hurt you already are - PLEASE LEAVE!!! no amount of "communication" could help this people (except for therapy maybe??) and your relationship with them. you being wounded isn't a sign of loyalty and faith in you relationship, its a sign of being abused.
Well he was diagnosed with depression so I will consider that as a legitimate indicator of mental illness. I honestly think if you can't love or handle yourself properly then you should not enter into a relationship at all because you are only searching for validation from another person. Maybe you should try entering a relationship with a person who has a mental illness and you may realize what I am getting at. A partner can only help you in life if you know how to help yourself first. I am just giving my real life experience and it is up to you if you want to try a relationship with a mentally ill person. It can serve as a good real life experience and you will learn a lot from that kind of a relationship.
well i don't know about you but mental illness doesn't stop at depression only. anxiety, adhd, and bipolar disorders are one of the most common ones. while i agree with your sentiment here that a person should love themself first before loving anyone else, i didn't really understand why and how you painted mental illness as no-pass card for relationships, given that a lot of mental illness isn't really cureable (you can only subdue its tendencies through medications). and also, depression can take in many forms; it can make you lethargic, anxious, empty, or in your exe's case - suicidal. so yeah, not every depressed person is gonna threaten their partner they might end their life it they leave :))
What i meant is that mental illness isnt a predictor of an abusive partner. *I* have mental illnesses and I'd hate for someone I care about to say I'm just a "good real life experience to learn from", rather than a regular person. You can't generalize that every mentally ill person can't love or handle themselves properly. Threatening to kill yourself to get your way isn't a symptom of depression, it's a manipulation tactic that abusers use.
^^this. Not just medication but therapy and an understanding support system are important too. If you can't let go of ur judgement then youre not a good support.
I'm just honestly giving my tips and real life experience from all of my past relationships. As not everyone can handle those kinds of relationships.
I understand that not every mentally-ill person will act in a negative way. I am just basing my opinion from all of my past relationships and it is still up to the person to take my advice or not as they will be the ones who enter in that kind of relationship. This is just me hoping that no one will ever experience those kind of toxic relationships. (⌒▽⌒)
i mainly read boring stuff and these are my thoughts
i think that there 2 main things that this story does well.
1. the relationship
in the first part, before the reveal of who VX is, it does a pretty good job in highlighting the relationship between VX and L. more specifically, it contrasts against the relationship between kang and yiyeon. in doing so, it explores kang as a character and the reason why he is running away. i think this reason is actually very relatable. additionally this builds up to the later part where L has to reconcile these 2 relationships.
the second part of the story answers the question: how much will you do for the one you love? how far will you go and to what extent is it justified? when does your actions stop being justifiable? and this is done using L and VX's relationship versus the antagonists. this exploration brings another layer to L and VX's relationship.
however, it being a korean written manhwa, it does have some tropes like pulling the love interest away forcefully. personally didnt really appreciate these but the rs is otherwise healthy
2. kang as a multifaceted character. he has some aura moments and other moments where he acted dumb. the moments where he gets rly fired up in a mission contrasts with his usual rational self. this is actually my favourite aspect of the story. u see this especially in VX's perspective. i also really appreciated how kang fell in love with yiyeon outside of their roles, because it makes the attraction feel genuine, not merely situational.
so then is this story boring? the plot is easy to follow but the context is quite unique for a BL. you do see the relationship themes in many BLs, which may be the reason why people find it boring. that doesnt mean its not worth reading. i think this story shines more in character exploration, but this does not mean that its relationship exploration is lacking. the art improves (i found yiyeon's hair really flat in the beginning) the side characters are also quite endearing
plot: 4/5
characters: 4.5/5
relationship: 4/5
flow: 3.5/5
art: 4.5/5
total: 4.1/5