What the fuck. This is giving the same vibe as straight webtoons where the artist is obviously a perverted male. This shit predatory asf
Seriously enough tho...
Just let him get manipulated
we shall protect kang jinha
rest doesn't matter at all anymore I am so tired of this drama
Finally someone else says what I was thinking
rriigghtt? It got so boring.. Like I knew it would be dramatic but this... is too much
Thank you , as long as jinha is happy and has someone who acutely cares about him and doesn't get easily swayed then I'd be happy
y e a h
I'm gonna have to drop this manga
Who tf even thinks of shit like this? They justify sll that r@pe in their mind btw!! The author thinks it's deserved and would stand by it. So fucking twisted, I genuinely am flabbergasted everytime I see a new chapter
brother why are you reading it if you hate it?
Why are u here then LMAO people love to say they hate this manhwa and then show up in comments. Pussy cant admit they like rape
Okay but why is there so much rape could king yaoi the third get an explanation on why this seems to be the entire plot of this and why it has so many white knights like you?
intense fictional themes exist, its part of the world of an artist & just because it makes you uncomfortable doesn’t mean it’s a smart move to hate on others for it. don’t you think its ridiculous to hate on something while willingly consuming it? unfortunately some people cannot admit to themselves they may enjoy reading these themes, & argue with other consumers of it. If the fact you didnt like it were true you simply wouldn’t read it & complaining about it doesnt make that any less true.
Self harm ig
You want people to like r@pe so bad bro that's an insane thing to say
These fictional things wouldn't exist without these "themes", more so better described as crimes, existing in real life. Think of mainstream porn. Lots of people like to describe this site as a porn site (which i disgaree with, but since there's so much of it) and there isn't much of a difference between this and what goes down in mainstream. Mainstream porn gets defended despite the evidenceof rape and human trafficking, and so does these contents—yaoi, that include these themes sometimes too. You cannot just say fiction ≠ reality when other people get off to other people's suffering on screen, which is what you do and what other people do as well. Do you see where you just can't say that it's okay bc it's just fiction? King yaoi the third out. Live love Kim Dan x Nakyum
Forreal I'm so tired of it, going to war with my own citizens
Ok but where is the evidence of irl rape and trafficking in this story mister yaoi?
The audacity to compare the porn industry to some big-eyed fake korean boys is incredible. Tell me which one is built off the enslavement of women and children and which is fictional content made by women and for women that stops existing once you close the app out?
Genuine question G, but why do you think reading this story for “self harm” purposes makes you any better than the people reading it to jack off lol. You’re all just feeding an urge, albeit different ones.
I completely understand your point, but there is no obligation to remain completely moral especially when it comes to art, that wasn’t my point. it’s completely irrational to hate on something while consuming it & denying to yourself that you enjoy reading it. driving a car puts you at risk of crashing, but you arent going to stop your entire life because of it, it’s the same with consuming dark pieces of media. of course it has the potential to cause harm, but no one is actively being harmed in fictional characters being painted this way.
Thank you for actually understanding what I was saying unlike some dumbasses (JAX). So I understand what you are trying to say and you seem to be very confident in your thoughts, so I will not try to change your opinion despite them differing from mine. I personally think that these themes do and can cause harm, which is why I just sorta get a little bit disappointed when people defend these things. I guess that is why the people who do come back to these types of stories, they are afraid of liking them because they still want to hold on to that sense of mortality. However you shouldn't always assume that the people that come back to these stories are in denial, some give out warnings to new comers and thats completely valid. It comes to stuff like romanticizing these situations, which lots of people do. Not to mention that a lot of younger people read bl or any sort of ertoic manga.. same with irl porn and stuff. Like as long as you don't defend these characters and situations then i can respect that as well. These are just my thoughts on it. Thanks for being civil and giving me a better understanding on why you think this way. King yaoi gives you his blessings.
No, it doesn't stop existing when you leave this site. Literally you will see other people praising manhwas like this on tiktok or Instagram. It doesn't end here and it won't end here. Sorry to break it to you but reading about Korean boys getting raped isn't where the line draws. It's literally in the most famous novels too, created by famous authors. You'll see these taboo themes every where you walk; shows, moves, people even joke about these things dude. and people like you romantize it and get mad when others question you for it when it's no different to mainstream porn–probably because it's not really any different from it. But as I told the other person, I'm not going to bother changing your mind bc I can tell that you'd just wanna argue with me instead of actually trying to see where I am coming from, and I must say that I have a pretty damn valid argument.
? It still isn’t real, goofball. Making a comparison to irl scenarios is completely invalid.
The comparison to mainstream porn featuring real people will never work because at the end of the day, these “popular novels and manhwa” aren’t REAL. There are no real women or children having their abuse broadcast on the internet by apathetic sex pests who don’t care about their human rights in yaoi. The fictional yaoi boys who are getting fucked up stop existing once you decide you’ve had enough. You can’t turn the screen off on real victims of human trafficking and sex slavery in the porn industry. Stop making ad hominem comparisons and learn some fucking object permanence.
Reread my comment and tell me where does it say I want people to like rape. If people hate this manhwa they wouldn’t be reading, if ur here there is enjoyment. U want soft cute fluffy story go read it
For real people wanna act morally superior for reading the same thing. Everyone reading and hate are so fucking closeted
The way you can’t even say rape you have to censor it and your reading stuff like this is ssoooo embarrassing
You see if you actually understood what the fuck I was saying MOTHERFUCKER, you'd understand that I'm not comparing fucking rape yaoi to the same shit that happens irl. I'm comparing the fucking weirdos that view and enjoy shit like that. Maybe my explanation wasn't clear enough and I'm sorry about that, but that wasn't what I was to say. What IM saying is that I'm fucking tired of mfs like you reducing this shit to "just fiction" because it's NOT. It's real shit that happens in real life which this would literally not even exist without REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES. You seem very passionate about the victims irl, so let me ask you how and why it doesn't seem to make your blood boil to see the same shit get glorified and romantized in fiction? Why? What since does that fucking make? Imagine you yourself being a victim of this type of abuse, just to see every piece of media sexualizing the same shit you went through. Some people went out of their fucking way to try and create a game LITERALLY ABOUT RAPING WOMAN and you're here, right now, telling me that it's okay because it's fiction. I'm not even joking you can search it up. I'm lit so done of this conversation. It doesn't matter if it's fiction. Stop replying to me bro you'll never change my mind. You can't be an activist against these situations if you ONLY EXCUSE IT BECAUSE ITS FUCKING YAOI
There is no comparison bruh. There’s a word for people who enjoy real rape porn. Predators. What’s the word for people who enjoy fictional noncon yaoi? Fujos.
Putting aside the absurdity of your idea of “activism for yaoi”, I’m extremely tired of the idea that all survivors must be unified under the same umbrella. Some people strongly dislike problematic stories because they aim to titillate, and others don’t. You cannot possibly generalize everybody and say “if you went through x then you must feel y.” What of the people who find content like this cathartic in the aftermath of enduring the worst kind of abuse that can happen to someone? Are they no longer victims? I’ll say this in terms that even a reprobate can understand: sexual violence exists in real life. But the yaoi does not. Selective outrage is a disease that only affects the dumbest alien stage fans I fear. Real life sexual abuse and rape is too real for you, so you need to LARP as activists in the one sector that is completely safe to explore such topics.
Anywayz if you’re so tired of talking to me then take the initiative to step away, you just look like a weird cocksucker who can’t hop off me lolz.
It’s always an Ivan fan at the scene of the crime too…your goat is an incel and a sex pest who sexually assaulted a guy. And the story still rehabilitates his image as “someone who just acted the way he did because he was scared”. Do you have words for Vivinos as well or are you too busy sucking the acrylic off your overpriced standee?
First, I don't jack off to it, so self harm sounds better lmao. It is the same reason why you'd watch true crime or whatever twisted minds get up to. I simply was here until now to see what the author was capable of and they kept pushing it and pushing it and I am not even curious anymore so I will probably drop it. I never claimed I was better than anyone. It is so funny how people here are so comfortable defending r@pe stories on here
The way you are defending this shit is even more embarrassing. I hope you never have to face something similar in real life.
Idk, opening this with “I think the author should be arrested” is pretty aggrandizing imo, but I hope you can keep your peace.
The TCC is infested with people who simp for Real rapists, pedos, and murderers. Even if they aren’t blatantly lusting after the worst paraphiles and criminals, being so interested in learning the lurid details of someone’s irl abuse and murder out of “morbid curiosity” is vastly different from reading manhwa where everything that happens, happens to a fictional character. I think I respect the yaoi readers way more. I’m not even trying to argue that people can’t be negatively affected by reading extreme and triggering fiction. I simply can’t understand people who go into these things just looking to shock themselves and then blaming the author despite the story being riddled with trigger warnings. If that makes sense.
There is a reason so many people watch true crime or read stuff like this. You can't really say it's all black and white and that if you read/watch it you like it in a twisted way or if you don't, you don't. It is just silly to simplify it like that when the human mind is so complex, I told you why I personally kept reading it and from then on it's whatever you want to believe. I blame the author for justifying what happens in here. Writing fucked up shit is very different than justifying it and thinking what you're doing is the right thing. I fear someone with that mindset is capable of harmful things. Justifying rape online will have consequences by making others believe it is the right thing. So you should see my opinion is not solely based on this specific fictional story, but because of the author themselves
Do you not see the irony of harping on about the complexity of the human mind and then accusing an author who you don’t know of justifying real rape?
Oops, the second part of that got cut off. Sorry. But if your beliefs about the author are due to thinking they’re the same person who wrote Sadistic Beauty, which gave a shameless rapist character a happy ending, then Yeonhui Woo is responsible for that. Fallnick is the author of this story. Even if that’s not the case and you didn’t have that misconception, Fallnick hasn’t even said or done anything wrong. They just wrote some porn lol. Contrast that with people who hop on YouTube to watch Bailey Sarian do a little jingle while covering herself in concealer and making jokes about real people who got murdered, I’m just confused why you can find it in your heart to be charitable towards them but not towards a fiction writer.
I don't have to know them to see their posts online lmao
I don't find any of this charitable, I judge both ways that's not my point, I may be confusing the authors for justifying stuff, but I would have to double check.
Still, I think whatever's going on on this is messed up and beyond your classic yaoi SA which is already disgusting but somehow is a norm. I can't check rn but will come back when I can
Genuinely curious about that you mean by their posts online? Are you referring to the manhwa itself or the author’s online presence?
“It is just silly to simplify it like that when the human mind is so complex“ is an entirely reasonable statement, I just don’t understand why you can’t apply it to this author who is writing a fictional story. I wouldn’t have cottoned onto the TCC angle had you not brought it up first. But if you can acknowledge that people indulge in morbid reality for complicated and nuanced reasons, then why not apply that to someone who wrote fiction?
I actually brought it up to explain why I kept reading this and why I kept watching TCC. Both because of that reason but at some point the webtoon became unbearable for me because of how vile it all is and I dropped it with this comment I made
I am not sure if I remember correctly/ confuse the authors if it's as you've said but I remember some posts on twitter or something the author actually sided with the abuser characters because their actions are valid as they have been abused the same way in the past. And that the "victim" I guess deserves whatever comes to them.
please you two, enough with this banter. I don’t know how to mute this shit & i’ve been getting nonstop false alarms for updates
Brah you can just use the mute button when you click on the notification bell….
Well, Fallnick’s twitter has been deleted and neither of us have screenshots or anything haha. So take what I’m saying with a grain of salt because I have no way of proving what I’m saying, and because I think it’s reasonable to question everything if there’s no hard evidence.
On their relationship, Fallnick had stated in a “couples meme” checklist that they ruined each others lives and should never meet again in another life, BUT they were also pretty transparent about the story being both psychological and pornographic. The reader isn’t really supposed to feel sorry for Jiwook by the end. Although I don’t really see how any of that is indicative of them being a dangerous person IRL. Fallnick is pretty self-aware about the story they wrote. It’s not a romance and never tries to be. Juyeon loses his humanity in pursuit of revenge. Jiwook FAAFO. They’re both unhappy. The end.
And to reiterate, you’re not under any obligation to believe any of this lol. I’m just a stranger on the internet. Unless you wanna fact check me by trawling through the #역지사지 tag on twitter to find screenshots or smth.