I dont know what the authors intention was when writing this scene, but it felt so ridiculous and completely nonsensical. Throughout the entire process of building a relationship/being in a relationship with Fukami, I dont remember Kaji ever thinking about cheating or having a casual affair. He constantly made it clear that he loved Fukami, and it took him a long time to convince Fukami himself that they should be together. I also dont remember him cheating on any of his previous partners, apart from being a playboy before getting together with Fukami. The fact that someone dated people purely for sex doesnt mean they were doing something wrong (judging someone based on their appearance is a different matter, although when it comes to one-time encounters, how else are you supposed to choose a partner?).
I dont want to idealize Kaji, but its obvious that he has changed a lot from the very first chapter up until now. Whenever he was going through a difficult time, he always thought about Fukami, so this sudden thought about cheating felt completely forced to me. It was almost as if he briefly forgot that he was in a relationship. Im glad it ended with just that one stupid thought and that the author didnt unnecessarily ruin the entire story.
Neither Kaji nor Fukami are perfect, and they both still have a lot to work through.
Ive never seen such strong and negative reactions before. Quite the opposite, actually, people have always defended and romanticized toxic, abusive characters, saying that “its just fiction,” so I was really surprised that in this case, people reacted so strongly to nothing more than the thought of having an affair. I dont want to sound like I’m trivializing cheating, because I think its absolutely vile.
The reactions here are vile and unfair for a character that has grown so much. It pained me, to be honest. I just took it for what it was: he is experiencing immense stress right now, he's dealing with a the fact he has to be in charge of a mother who abandoned him and he loved, and now is in her deathbed waiting for the inevitable, and a father that never paid him a second of attention but somehow forced him into doing this. Of course his mind is in an incorrect place. Some people here believe they are the beacon of morality because they bash a fictional character for THINKING something that is wrong but don't even consider the possibility he did that because of something, and that is something that HAPPENS a lot to traumatized people.
Which bothers me is, the same as yesterday, somehow the rest of the chapter is not approved to be published. They bashed Kaji for not calling Fukami, and if they WAITED to read chapter 81 they would know he does exactly that. And develops a lot as a character in the conversations he has with Fukami in those episodes.
But well, it's always easier and gives you more engagement when you complain. First and most important Internet rule.
finally fwb who respect and care about each other even if there are no feelings involved yet
Fr the fact he slept over without acting like it would be a declaration of love or a sign of being in a 20+ year marriage was so refreshing
romanticised pedophilia at its finest
They're not real you fucking troglodyte. Get real problems. Why don't you go after the great orange pedophilic fuck in the White House instead of cartoon drawings that don't exist
Speak of the devil and he will appear
@vesper is a 29 years old pedo and idf soldier who gets odd children, and he is mad that empathetic people are calling out indoctrination which he is scared of, as pedophelia is a source of enjoyment to him
Because I read fiction I'm a predator? Are you fucking stupid? Go ahead call the cops then. Reading a book isn't going to put me in jail. You're a fucking psychopath. If this shit was real I'd be the first person calling the cops on Kosuke. But he doesn't exist! There's no problems.
And Robin, you don't know shit. I'm a CSA victim you fucking asshole. Even I can recognize that this isn't real and that children shouldn't be reading this. Not everything has to be that serious. It's a cute little romance story between fictional characters, that no one is forcing you or anyone to read. Get all the way the fuck over yourself. You want to go after pedophiles why don't you start with the moldy orange in the fucking White House okay. Fuck off.
"cause I read fiction I'm a predator?" That's what they all say bro to defend ts anyways still it is weird if ur liking a manga that has romance between a highschooler and a teacher plus just cause it's fictional doesn't make it okay btw it's just like those ppl reading loli shi that's sexual or wtv and saying it doesn't matter cause It ain't real or that their actually 99999 plus year old yskidicjjfjrifjkrofkc
Cuz they're not fucking real. It doesn't affect my life. If fiction has an effect on your reality you need therapy. Period. Like if you want to get real weird about it these characters are really only 10 years old because they were made up about 10 years ago by the person who draws them. It's a stupid fucking argument that actually causes more harm to actual CSA survivors like me than it helps anyone. But go ahead call the cops I read a manga oh my god send me to prison. I'm the worst human being on the face of the planet because I read a fucking book. That's how insane y'all sound. Like I said go after actual predators who have hurt actual living breathing children. If there was anything actually wrong with these manga they wouldn't be sold in in book stores in multiple languages around the fucking world.
To @vesper. So I am, but that does not mean that I, an adult, should read pedo content.
Victims of pedos can be pedos too.
You are consuming and enjoying pedophelic content, and you got mad at OP for rightfully expressing their freedom of speech
And to that dumbass, I am not American
It seems like it is affecting by the way u are defending I and getting offended and mad anyways my point is that I think romanticizing a teacher/student relationship is weird, even if it's fictional Saying "it's not real" or "the characters are only 10 years old because they were created 10 years ago" doesn't really address what I said the creator intentionally wrote one character as a minor and the other as an adult that's the dynamic people are criticizing.Also being a CSA survivor doesn't automatically make your opinion the only valid one I'm a CSA survivor too and I don't agree with you. Saying people shouldn't criticize adult/minor romance in fiction because it "harms survivors" doesn't speak for all of us I think it's completely reasonable to criticize media that romanticizes those kinds of relationships especially because I don't think they should be normalized at all and ya I logged into another account to reply to u bc ur blocked me andddd u argument maid no sense so stop using csa survivor to make it alright it's disgusting
Ur disgusting using the fact ur a csa survivor to justify pedophila relationships get help I'm a csa survivor and I'd never use that against anything to justify my action of defending a minor x adult manga and ya ts isn't real but it's still weird how they're normalizing it in this
"I am the perfect victim! You should be like me! My coping mechanisms are superior to yours!" Ass statement. "You enjoy horror movies so you're a future serial killer!", "video games make kids more violent!" Ass logic. Dude get out. And quit it with the buzzwords, you dont even know how "normalization" happens and works—everyone here knows pedophilia is an offense of the highest degree, and if some drawings are enough to change that mindset, they were always pedophiles/pedophile apologists to begin with. It has nothing to do with the fiction they consume.
Sincerely, an SA and incest victim who is so evil for coping in ways YOU PERSONALLY don't approve of. Fuck you.
If ur an adult over the age of 20+ I dont wanna here it bc ur arguing with someone's who's barely turned 18
Never said that crap bro about omg be "like me im better" I'm saying being a csa survivor doesn't make it right for u to be defending minor x adult crap just bc it's ur way of coppin does NOT make it right and I guess is just hard for u to face the truth that it's wrong that a is defending pedo crap because that does not help csa survivors at all and will worsen there triggers or wtv and yes IT IS PROVEN that the stuff u consume affects ur brain because your brain has neuroplasticity its the ability to physically rewire itself based on experience regularly engaging with specific online sites or any platforms that includes drawings or anything this is physiologically proven btw and there's many articals about it u can look it up and I never mentioned about someone being a pedophile until right now but the stuff u can consume can affect the way u think over the time like how u think it's okay bc it's fictional :3 it's also the same thing with rape in manga or manwhas it doesn't make it okay
Yes the way ur copping is wrong and is disgusting sorry for the truth buddy hope u get help and stop defending minor x adult just bc it's fictional so it makes it alright to read :ppp
I suggest you check this article out, from an actual licensed therapist, before bullshitting me with your personal, unprofessional views and opinions.
https://www.treatmyocd.com/what-is-ocd/common-fears/if-i-like-lolicon-does-it-mean-im-a-pedophile-a-therapists-view
You are NO ONE, and I repeat NO ONE, and it is NOT your place to diagnose or classify anyone who isn't harming any REAL children as a pedophile, sorry, that's just not how it works. You are no different than those teenage girls who self diagnose themselves with bpd. Just bullshit spat from an unprofessional, uneducated fictional child protector, who would rather call real, struggling, coping victims disgusting for dealing with their trauma—in a way YOU deem incorrect, but anyone else who understands the first thing about psychology deems to be alright—than educate yourself on the matter. The human brain is a complicated place, and if you DONT want to take the time to fully understand it, the least you can do is not insult real victims and spread misinformation. Shut the fuck up.
You're right.
Vesper and shiriko are pedophiles
They love spreading misinformed links written by pedophelic and white supremacist therapists to keep the pedo culture
Oh so you're a block evading asshole. I'm defending it because censorship is bad. You don't have to read this no one is forcing you to read this. You can just walk away and shut the fuck up. It's a fictional story about fictional things. Why does it matter what paper dolls are doing to each other? No real life human beings is getting hurt because this manga exists. If this was real I would be the first person calling the cops on Kosuke. But they're not real! No actual child is in harm's way. Get all the way the fuck over yourself you absolute psycho
Thank fucking god that there is a normal human being here. Hello fellow normal human being. God forbid we've been through horrible things and we simply read books. Someone called the cops send us both to jail. Censorship is bad end of story like that's the only point to this conversation. You don't have to like reading dynamics like this which means you don't have to read it you can just go on your merry way and find something you enjoy. Telling people that they're pedophiles and predators because they read a book is so fucked up. I swear to God these kids all have to be like 12 years old and just generally insane to even think saying this shit is okay.
can understand jh felt used after he found out senpai used him for the noverl but at the same time i feel kinda pissed because he knew how different he was treated by him compared to others even when he was terrible with showing any emotions. i really hope this drama ends qyickly and they will be happy SOOOOOON
that miyoshi dude is so full of himself. cant sand him. he talks like their relationship is keeping jun away from jazz and wants him back to playing it again but the truth is that he is selfish and doing it for himself. he doesnt care if jun is happy or not. hes just projecting his ideals on jun and he is not interested what jus really feels.
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it really irks me when couples or ppl in manga/anime have to prove anything to others like they are in love, or they are happy or they made right decision. they have to fight for acceptance. i get its fictional but this concept is way too common.
Same lol he pmo so much.i wish he'll get a development
im so glad author didnt stop at the 1st volume and cant wait to read 4th vol
There's a 4th vol?! Also if u read vol 3 pls spoil it for me is it the usual jealousy arc or will there be proper communication
if im correct author published 4th chapter from vol4 recently and we also got confirmation from polish publisher that there will be 4th volume.
raws are available here https://mangatoto.com/title/131827-sonna-ni-iu-nara-daiteyaru-ask-and-you-will-receive
*SPOILERS*
there will be some jelousy but not miscommunication. the misunderstanding is on the new guy's side who is overprotective towards hikaru.
Thank you!!
there is plenty good bl with interesting plot, characters and beautiful art but this one is it for me ( and Sonna ni Iu Nara Daiteyaru) can reread it many times and always feel like its the first time
omg a fellow sonna ni enjoyer!! (im not normal about them btw theyre my parents i love ninnin and hikaru like THATS MY SHAYLAA)
Impeccable taste
FRFR
SAME i love rereading this manga so much
yeah sempai could acted better towards yoi chsn but some ppl forget that he is minor and has to do as his parents say + its normla behaviour feeling responsible for the family if the father is sick. of course he should said yoi about his situation first and then ask if she is willing to be in long distance relationship but he didnt have that courage to ask someone to wait for him when he doesnt even know when he will be back. not everything is black and white.
you're so real for that.
A very realistic take
not to mention he obviously doesnt want to do it. i relate to that kind of emotion where u just want to shut people out no matter how irresponsible or irrational you look. plus, we have to remember both him and yoi are teenagers. its normal to not know how to process certain emotions, make mistakes, and hurt people altogether. heck- its normal as adults, but its just a tad bit more expected for minors especially when faced with a very life-altering experience
is this BL guys? i dont expect anything hardcore but wanna know if there are any romantic feelings/romance or not.
No, it full on work place comedy but with no romance but Kinjo indirectly states he bi in a passing comment
Thank you for the reply. I've seen anime and loved it. Don't mind not having any bl here just wanted to know if I should expect anything later :)
haha what do you mean the end :_)))