Shun

I agree. Everyone has their own idea of what is pretty vs. ugly. I don't think he is ugly. I think he looks malnourished and unhealthy (like he is wasting away into nothingness). But that is not the same as looking ugly.

I only agree with half of this,true he is beautiful,but you reading a manga/wha/hua bc a character is hot and happens to be mlm doesn’t mean ur fetishising gay man, it’s completely normal for u to start something bc u found someone attractive that applies to everything anime, movies,mangas, bl,gl,comics etc
ofc ppl can also have their opinion if they find him ugly(even tho he is pretty to us)their opinion is completely valid too,
finding a character attractive that happens to be lgbtq+(In this case mlm)is not it wrong at all,fetishing isnt finding someone hot or reading bc they are attractive,it comes when 1 u read specifically for them scenes,start to bring those stereotypes into real mlm couples or mlm in general,u start to ship real ppl who can be straight or completely strangers,when u only read bl yo satisfy yourself,inserting urself in things where u clearly don’t belong to etc

No. That's not what fetishizing means obviously. At least most BL is fetishizing. Because they just depict gay presenting relationships for the straight gaze. Also judging people based on looks is wrong. Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean it's automatically right after all. Bbb.

1 this is part of what fetishing is,u can ask or look it up on tik tok,tons of mlm have stated this so why would I state something that’s not true?,everyones opinion is valid if they think his ugly on it they don’t that’s also ok simple just bc it isn’t correct (as u say)doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion like u and me.
bl(when it was called yaoi)was directed towards straight woman made for woman by woman,that fact still stands till today but everyone now is reading bl,mlm wlw non binary etc, a majority of bls are fetishy but not all of them,they are plenty of good bls with good mlm representations u just have to learn how to look.

again a lot of mlm have talked ab this topic already and stated what’s fetishing and what is not and what I stated is part of what fetishing is,reading for the sex,to pleasure yourself,bringing those stereotypes into real life mlm,comparing them to bl characters and making them uncomfortable ab it,tends to see a mlm couple and start assuming things like”he is def a bottom”he gives me top vibes, basing your entire persona of mlm content, I can list so many things that equal fetishing
and this doesn’t only stands for mlm content also for wlw but that’s not the main topic here

If U really believe that this is not fetishing and that is “ok”or “normal”then u need help bestie bc it’s not,
sadly mlm media like u said we’re for certain Audience(straight females),but there’s nothing we can do ab it what’s done it’s done,although anyone can read mlm content as longest they don’t fetishize it

Just um.... gonna leave this here ..... yeah... take from it, what you will. You can both argue semantics. ... But it is the actual definition.


fet·ish·ism
/ˈfediSHizəm/
noun
noun: fetishism; plural noun: fetishisms
1.
a form of sexual behavior in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, activity, part of the body, etc.
"erotic fetishism"
excessive and irrational devotion or commitment to a particular thing.
"a critique of the new technological fetishism"
2.
worship of an inanimate object for its supposed magical powers or because it is considered to be inhabited by a spirit.
"the fetishism of Aboriginality"

see I wasn’t wrong bestie yohoh(althought the actual def is way more formal than what I explained I just put the words in way they could understand ),although the Third one doesn’t seem to match LMAO, but yeah I didn’t made it up again it has been stated for mlm themselves