...and now some are saying there is no consent and it's not real bdsm..hm.
The uke gave consent, he agreed to be in this kind of relationship, he knows what it consist, he is a masochist..he enjoys pain because it's pleasurable for him?
The seme took care of him, asked him many questions before starting it..
This is one of the softest bdsm I have read so far, this is the most gentle sadist seme I have seen...
Its not rape and I don't know how its not real bdsm.
I have seen worse bdsm. And this was just the less intense one
People aren't just now saying that though? If you go back in the topics you'll see similar posts about chapter 1. All the points you've made have already been refuted by those topics. Yes, it's softer but it still misses the mark.
1.) He gave consent when he was drunk .
2.) He gave consent a day ago ( pretty sure that's not how it works )
3.) He retracted consent several times during the BDSM session .
4.) He didn't once say " Yes , I'm up for it " during the session itself .
5.) Even if saying no is a turn on during sex for them , they should have arranged a safe word , which they didn't .
( Irl sex , a lack of a yes is no )
Its a manga. Its fiction. Its doesn't have to respect the whatever morals because it's supposed to be like this.
"Even if saying no is a turn on during sex for them ,( they should have arranged a safe word which they didn't)"". "They should have???". " they ?? ..excuse me but are you saying fictional character " should have "?
Y'all are being offended and are nerding it over imaginary characters. Reading too much into it instead of praising the authors work.. Literally.
You also "read into the story" and explained in OP why this was "not rape" and "real bdsm". But disagreeing with you and saying it's "not consensual" and "not real bdsm" is "too much" and means "you're offended"? "Real" bdsm respects morals, so if we're calling this "real" bdsm then It's not out of line to say "they should have". If we're now going to say "it's fiction" then let's also not call this "real" bdsm, it's all "imaginary" so nothing is "real" about this.
Sweetie you're the one saying imaginary characters are doing something real. Now you're offended people are telling you it's not real? Funny.
Let's address your reply through some points ~
1.) You're the one who said that the use gave consent and this was real BDSM ( which he didn't , this was technically rape ) , and I countered solely that point . If you had said that yeah , he didn't give consent and since this is fiction you didn't care , I wouldn't have commented . Just don't paint this manga to be something it's not and you can still appreciate it .
2.) I was saying " should have " in the sense that it would have been the last option to resort to for consent . Don't take my words out of context .
3.) It's you who is getting offended about opinions that people hold or when they simply point out the truth .
4.) We can point out the truth and praise the author where they deserve it . To praise them and say that they have realistically portrayed it is not appreciation , it's called being a yes-man . Appreciation doesn't solely depend on being a yes-man .
5.) If you think pointing out an obvious is an " insult/criticism " ,then that's your problem .
As I said earlier , pointing out an obvious and criticising something is not an insult . If you think it's an insult , then there must be something wrong with the product .
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I like the manga , but I'm not going to deny that it had flaws and that the seme technically raped the use .
...we still need to know how sungho got that scar on his face ...and if it's the reason he has gone insane, because it's not logical for him to abuse dohyun because of one past heartbreak ( if I can put it this way) ...unless there are more things dohyun did in his past to sungho that are left for us to see in there future chapters.
....now we moved to sungho's house..he can't make the same thing he used to make to dohyun in the basement or warehouse... It's awful..dohyung doesn't want to fight him back like before..he is trying to understand him, however sungho's insecure... And this is not helping.... Tbh..it's a toxic relationship, they aren't going anywhere..I wonder if the other characters will interfere between this relationship..
You know when piecke has hugged that dude ( the possible mule titan inheritor) she actually gave him a hint on what is happening, I believe Zeke knows about Connie.. They know that eren and the others infiltrated marley, I'm sure the next chapter will be lit, it's gonna go down...and now more than before I believe falco will inherite the armored titan..( sorry Gabi) and that's why eren let him listen to them...or so
Ahh yes these are my favorites.