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Heretic zeke January 22, 2018 1:24 pm

Will my boi chisaki be okay?

Heretic zeke December 31, 2017 2:26 am

This chapter has been great so far. The hammer titan is not who we excepted him to be and he is more powerful than we imagined. Eren, heh... The table has turned upside down, eren is now the monster, I feel bad for little Gabi, her eyes were full of horror, she was frightened.
I wonder if reiner saved that boy falco.. And where is Zeke? Will he meet Levi ? Is Armin with them or he stayed in paradise?

    samuigackt January 19, 2018 7:27 pm

    They are at war. Everyone at war fight for different reasons, and it's really hard to say which one is right or wrong.
    Those Marleyans or Eldians won't change if they keep being fed with stupid propaganda. Even after all the suffering, the Marleyan government still wants to get the titan? WTF. It's like they never grow up. To begin with, Eldians in Paradis Island probably wouldn't do anything if they were just left alone.
    Personally I liked that that naive Gaby see that. Everyone in the world needs to know that there's always two sides of a coin, so they can then decide which one is better.

    manganiME January 23, 2018 1:45 pm
    They are at war. Everyone at war fight for different reasons, and it's really hard to say which one is right or wrong.Those Marleyans or Eldians won't change if they keep being fed with stupid propaganda. Even ... samuigackt

    Marley is wrong. Period.

    Heretic zeke January 26, 2018 2:02 pm
    Marley is wrong. Period. manganiME

    Lmao. You cleary dont know anything about history. MARLEY was a massive empire who ruled in harmony for 1'800 years. When ymir fritz made a deal with the devil and conquered marley, the Eldians slaughtered many races and demolished many cultures, it's estimated that the number of people eldians have killed is 3 x the number of living now.
    After 1,700 years of oppression from the Eldians, the Marleyans rose up during the Great Titan War and won, subjugating most of Eldia's former territory, save for Paradis, and reestablishing Marley as a nation.
    Eldians waged war against the Marleyans and many other nations, utterly destroying them and obtaining complete rule over the continental mainland.
    Eldians have lost the war and started fighting themselves, later on they weakened themselves, thus, Karl fritz thought that eldians crimes are so heavy, so he moved them to paradise and deleted their memories.

    Which means that you can't MARLEY IS WRONG because neither ELDIA is right or wrong. Both side are wrong and the strongest is one who will win.
    If isayamama started to tell us the story from MARLEY's side, you'd be saying now Eldia is wrong lol.

    Heretic zeke January 26, 2018 2:04 pm
    They are at war. Everyone at war fight for different reasons, and it's really hard to say which one is right or wrong.Those Marleyans or Eldians won't change if they keep being fed with stupid propaganda. Even ... samuigackt

    I hope they decide to make peace after this war. Maybe titans power will be annihilate?.

    manganiME January 26, 2018 3:51 pm
    Lmao. You cleary dont know anything about history. MARLEY was a massive empire who ruled in harmony for 1'800 years. When ymir fritz made a deal with the devil and conquered marley, the Eldians slaughtered man... Heretic zeke

    Eldia WAS wrong.
    Marley IS wrong.

    That's the difference.

    manganiME January 26, 2018 3:52 pm
    Lmao. You cleary dont know anything about history. MARLEY was a massive empire who ruled in harmony for 1'800 years. When ymir fritz made a deal with the devil and conquered marley, the Eldians slaughtered man... Heretic zeke

    And we don't yet know how much of these stories are true, btw. They have been "revisioned" so far in the telling, depending on who is telling. Who is to say Willy was not lying or misinformed?

    manganiME January 26, 2018 3:54 pm
    I hope they decide to make peace after this war. Maybe titans power will be annihilate?. Heretic zeke

    I don't know if the theme will be you can't make peace, only have a stand-off, or if somehow they will find a way to end Titan power and hence the fear of them. It will be interesting if the mangaka will go happy-ish ending or dark.

    Heretic zeke January 26, 2018 11:06 pm
    Eldia WAS wrong.Marley IS wrong.That's the difference. manganiME

    Eldia is still wrong because they removed their own people's memory, sent thousands to death in those survey corps missions to which only one man tried to stand right and that man was erwin. He knew about eldia and the titan being humans. His father was killed for knowing the truth about titans. Eldia is a corrupt nation. Example that priest who know the secret and hide it, eldia is controlled by the bourgeoisie who control the nation's wealth. And where the poor ones suffers, example the underground where poor ones are treated like shit. You can't deny that eldia is a corrupt nation. Eldia was wrong and is still wrong ( few only like erwin ) are good for standing against their government.

    However, Marley is only trying to secure their nation since eldia is a potential threat, even if their ways are dirty( like killing hundreds by their titan power) segregating and discriminating against the eldians inside marley and threatening them like less than humans.

    Conclusion, Eldia was and still is WRONG. Marley is now wrong.

    Heretic zeke January 26, 2018 11:08 pm
    And we don't yet know how much of these stories are true, btw. They have been "revisioned" so far in the telling, depending on who is telling. Who is to say Willy was not lying or misinformed? manganiME

    Naws, these information are grey & neutral.

    Heretic zeke January 26, 2018 11:09 pm
    I don't know if the theme will be you can't make peace, only have a stand-off, or if somehow they will find a way to end Titan power and hence the fear of them. It will be interesting if the mangaka will go hap... manganiME

    Same because the war seem endless and both sides are not innocents, only isayamama will know how to end it and I hope it won't be disappointing lol

    Heretic zeke January 26, 2018 11:16 pm
    And we don't yet know how much of these stories are true, btw. They have been "revisioned" so far in the telling, depending on who is telling. Who is to say Willy was not lying or misinformed? manganiME

    http://attackontitan.wikia.com/wiki/Marley

    manganiME January 27, 2018 3:20 am
    Eldia is still wrong because they removed their own people's memory, sent thousands to death in those survey corps missions to which only one man tried to stand right and that man was erwin. He knew about eldia... Heretic zeke

    In terms of how they treat OTHERS (ie, not their own, other nations and peoples and races), Marley is NOW wronger. It tried to take over the other countries and is still trying to destroy Paradis/all Eldians. It is still the imperialistic, racist, genocidal one.

    manganiME January 27, 2018 3:21 am
    Eldia is still wrong because they removed their own people's memory, sent thousands to death in those survey corps missions to which only one man tried to stand right and that man was erwin. He knew about eldia... Heretic zeke

    And notice that while despising Titans, the Marleys both oppress them within and use them to oppress without (ie, fighting other nations that don't have Titans). They are the height of hypocrisy.

    Heretic zeke January 27, 2018 12:17 pm
    In terms of how they treat OTHERS (ie, not their own, other nations and peoples and races), Marley is NOW wronger. It tried to take over the other countries and is still trying to destroy Paradis/all Eldians. I... manganiME

    Marley have their enemies and sure the treat them inhumanly, however, they have many allies from other countries, example the chapter where it shows how diverse and open their nation is as it welcome other cultures ( there were black people, they ate tacos, Asian tribes etc...) I mean sure they are not good ones and still are imperialist. They treat their allies right and they demonize their enemies. My whole point is that they eldia is as wrong as marley.

    Heretic zeke January 27, 2018 12:31 pm
    And notice that while despising Titans, the Marleys both oppress them within and use them to oppress without (ie, fighting other nations that don't have Titans). They are the height of hypocrisy. manganiME

    I mean yeah lol. They use eldians within the walls to use their titan power and fight other nations because they hold the titan power which is a great strong weapon in the area

    manganiME January 27, 2018 5:02 pm
    Marley have their enemies and sure the treat them inhumanly, however, they have many allies from other countries, example the chapter where it shows how diverse and open their nation is as it welcome other cult... Heretic zeke

    This is now. We saw previously how they were at war with everyone and used Titans against them. It's the Eldians that are a cooperating "enemy" focus. Without the Eldians to hate, they'd be at each others' throats again. The Marleyan gov't didn't bother to learn what Fritz did: stop fighting, live quietyly, etc.

    samuigackt January 27, 2018 8:19 pm
    Marley have their enemies and sure the treat them inhumanly, however, they have many allies from other countries, example the chapter where it shows how diverse and open their nation is as it welcome other cult... Heretic zeke

    How is the Eldian wrong?
    The Eldians in the Marley country are brainwashed, enslaved, and forced to believe their kind is a curse and to kill each other.
    The Eldians in Paradis Island are treated like toys: they release titans into their island to keep them trapped, or even worse, to kill them.
    And then Marleyans send brainwashed Eldian kids to kill Eldians in Paradis Island.
    What should the Eldians do to stop them then? Ask them nicely? No way in hell it's gonna happen. Those Marleyans bullies need a good punch in the face, to make them realize that they need to stop. Eren's attack is exactly that.

    Sure, Marleyans WERE victims back then. But right now they are just assholes.
    I don't see how Eldians are wrong right now.

    Mind you, no race nor countries should be held responsible to what their ancestors did long time ago.
    Especially since the Eldians already decided to separate themselves and did nothing.

    samuigackt January 27, 2018 8:29 pm
    Eldia is still wrong because they removed their own people's memory, sent thousands to death in those survey corps missions to which only one man tried to stand right and that man was erwin. He knew about eldia... Heretic zeke

    Yeah, sure, the Eldians government is stupid and selfish and that needs to change. But the fact that the government is stupid and attacking Marleyans are two different things.
    Eren is not a monster for attacking Marleyans -- it's a defense attack. Marleyans are not just trying to secure their own country, they just want more power and they try to achieve it in a very inhuman way.

    Heretic zeke January 27, 2018 10:58 pm
    Yeah, sure, the Eldians government is stupid and selfish and that needs to change. But the fact that the government is stupid and attacking Marleyans are two different things.Eren is not a monster for attacking... samuigackt

    Lol no one disagrees, eldian's government is corrupt,eldians were imperial genocidal murderous in the past, eldians fought everyone, then fought themselves hence weakened themselves and they are ready to start any war at any time, they have titans inside their walls, they lie at their own people, they send troops aka survey corps each time to go to some expedition to study titans while the govs already know about the titan's secret. Hundres of them died in vain.

    Marley are a genocidal racist greedy empire that want more power and want to weaken their enemies and anyone that opposes them, they segregate against eldians in the most racist way in Marley, their ways are inhumane, they have superiority complex, they send children to war so yeah they are trash.

    And both of these nation use the propaganda to strengthen the hate and nourish it...so how will the war end? And to when will this continue? Do you think eldia can win over MARLEY?

    I mean imo both are trash.

    Heretic zeke January 27, 2018 11:01 pm
    How is the Eldian wrong?The Eldians in the Marley country are brainwashed, enslaved, and forced to believe their kind is a curse and to kill each other.The Eldians in Paradis Island are treated like toys: they ... samuigackt

    Eren is trash. They are all trash smh. No one is innocent, all of them have blood on their hands, I understand Eden's motive are national and his reason is honorable yet he is stillt trash smh

    manganiME January 28, 2018 12:34 am
    Eren is trash. They are all trash smh. No one is innocent, all of them have blood on their hands, I understand Eden's motive are national and his reason is honorable yet he is stillt trash smh Heretic zeke

    That's a simplistic view.

    samuigackt January 30, 2018 10:40 pm
    Eren is trash. They are all trash smh. No one is innocent, all of them have blood on their hands, I understand Eden's motive are national and his reason is honorable yet he is stillt trash smh Heretic zeke

    Well, no one's perfect, honey. Ugly truth is everywhere IRL. You're gonna have a difficult time dealing with people if you think a little bit of flaws makes someone a trash :)

    Heretic zeke January 31, 2018 10:45 am
    Well, no one's perfect, honey. Ugly truth is everywhere IRL. You're gonna have a difficult time dealing with people if you think a little bit of flaws makes someone a trash :) samuigackt

    boi I know lol, eren is not someone, he is a fictional character, I intentional repeated that he is trash to tease you

    Heretic zeke January 31, 2018 10:45 am
    That's a simplistic view. manganiME

    I mean in a nutshell and it's fair enough

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Heretic zeke January 29, 2018 8:04 pm

Lmao, am I like the only one who can't vent to their parents without getting disappointing/bashing answers from them.

Like something happened and I didn't know the details about it exactly so I told my father my point of view on it but he bashed me and really ruined my mood.

    pandaaAAAHH January 29, 2018 8:19 pm

    parents are good like that lol

    mochi January 29, 2018 8:25 pm

    when i told them i was feeling depressed, worst mistake bro

    Sam III January 29, 2018 8:34 pm

    They cannot think of us having a different point of view. Till some stage in childhood, they have always seen us copying them or doing whatever they taught. But we develop our personality at some stage. Most parents(my dad too) just cannot accept this change of view. They get angry without reason as we're not doing or talking as they expected!( ̄へ ̄)they love us, they just don't know how to deal with us anymore!

    QueenBullshit January 29, 2018 10:34 pm
    when i told them i was feeling depressed, worst mistake bro mochi

    Same same

    QueenBullshit January 29, 2018 10:38 pm

    I can talk to mom for hours on end but in the end I don't convince her and she dosent convince me. It's like they think or points are invalid or something just because we're younger than them.

    It's so frustrating

Heretic zeke January 29, 2018 1:29 pm

Me: should be reading classical old books for knowledge, to have better communication skills, & be a more cultured for my own good

Me :* read yaoi for hours and procrastinate*

    Christopher January 29, 2018 1:05 pm

    Can relate.

    Sam III January 29, 2018 1:49 pm

    I don't even read Dan Brown's novel anymore whose book I used to read like crazy(● ̄(エ) ̄●) God save this degenerate soul!

    elephantcockroach January 29, 2018 2:46 pm

    God, why do I relate so much? ╥﹏╥... haha ╥﹏╥

    Bassy January 29, 2018 2:47 pm

    Can relate

    Heretic zeke January 29, 2018 3:11 pm

    Lmao this is sad I have about 7 books waiting for me to read them, why am i like this?

    takame January 29, 2018 7:06 pm

    read both. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Sam III January 29, 2018 7:30 pm
    read both. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ takame

    Well, in my case I've recently started manga so my addiction is so intense. Right now I find no interest in books. But knowing myself, I'll be able to read after a while.

    Heretic zeke January 29, 2018 8:01 pm
    Well, in my case I've recently started manga so my addiction is so intense. Right now I find no interest in books. But knowing myself, I'll be able to read after a while. Sam III

    Exactly! The problem is not the fact that you don't have want to read books but your urge to read comics is just bigger and your interest is easily drawn toward comics and not books

    takame January 29, 2018 9:18 pm
    Well, in my case I've recently started manga so my addiction is so intense. Right now I find no interest in books. But knowing myself, I'll be able to read after a while. Sam III

    i interchange since there are times i wanted to get out of smut literature (yaoi).
    also, isekai is a current obsession of mine so i read light comics too in addition to manga and novels.
    but TBH, nowadays i read more comics and light novels than actual best seller paperbacks lol.

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