The storyline is interesting and the male outfits are fine but those dresses that the FL is wearing look like something I would draw in a primary school thinking of a “princess dress”. It’s like having no idea what you’re doing and adding random elements that may look fine on the paper but if you imagine how that dress would look like in real life - it would be an abomination of a dress. What’s with the 3/4 length? Or that american prom dress with long back and short front?
Chile, anyways…. Haven’t seen Callisto since like 12 chapters ago which is 4 monthsss. Starting to get bored of this arc, where is he to save the day?
Btw is the a novel translation somewhere? I remember reading it on wattpad or something before the manhwa came out but the translator dropped it at some point.
It's already in T a p a s, you can read one ch per day and also read the ones without wuf with ads, that's how I have been reading, also buying with free ink of missions
The thing I love about them together is that even though at first I expected it to be this “girl storming through cold duke’s wall” trope, it’s nothing like that or any variation I have read on it. They are both so gentle with both themselves and each other. So awkward in a way they are trying to understand and communicate with each other but on the other side the tension makes it feel just lovely. It’s also less about breaking the walls but more about showing and accepting the vulnerabilities. A couple that leaves you with such a cosy feeling.
I knew what I signed up for but now that I got to learn about the characters backgrounds - I don’t need that reincarnation trope at all
To be honest the og owner of the body is so much more interesting and complex character. I would love for it to be a story about accepting a loss and finding some sort of closure in reuniting with children that have experienced loss too.
The ML also wasn’t that toxic - he’s just completely emotionally immature but he never tried to purposely hurt his wife, he could learn about proper family love in the process. And these feelings of wanting to make up for his emotional incapacity at the moment when she needed support and be a better man - they are all towards the og owner of the body, current FL has nothing to do with that.
She is the only piece of puzzle that doesn’t fit in this story (I mean for me, personally). Why create such a traumatic past relationship between the ML and FL when apart from “oopsie, I feel uncomfy around him cause of these damn memories” it didn’t get worked through at all? She literally didn’t care, she only keeps saying it’s none of her business cause she only cares about raising her siblings (which I mean, fair enough I guess, not blaming her but it bothers me). Ahhh I’m just not into that whole siblings love that surpasses death and parallel universe trope at all, I guess I’m dropping.
What you said is so true. I so agree with you. I also wish it was not an isekai manhua.
Omg your are so right
I know it's kinda off footing right from the start .. I would love a story like that, all about healing and development ahh.. I'm dropping after ch8 too
… cause they were the ones who recommended this. I was reading ‘Bastian’ and there was this side note “ohh, fun fact - these two stories are set in the same kingdom and “Cry or better yet beg” is a very popular novel~ It’s less about heavy conflicts like Bastian and more about the thoughts and emotions of the characters” - YEAH RIGHT, I feel so devastated after reading the novel spoilers
Help, I like angst too but this author is truly a whole another level
Sorry I meant to like your comment but yeah the art is definitely wasted on this series. It’s beyond horrible, never seen a main character be subjected to so much pure evil by a male lead before and they still end up together in the end. This series is a crime.
Yess the manhwa adaptations of both of these series are such high quality because of the popularity of the novel that you can’t NOT appreciate the artists behind it - but I just don’t understand WHY is it so popular.
I don’t mean to say that romance always has to be all lovey-dovey, I like the premise of dark romances, I like the angst - but for me there are boundaries that should not be crossed. Writing a story in which a woman is abused for YEARS, is forced into all of it and in the end still trying to portray it as a romantic relationship - that just shows that the author has no idea of how human relationships and emotions work. If she made it clear it’s a stockolm syndrome that it would be remotely “fine” but LOVE?
I had such a hard time making sense of all of this, hope I can help you all clarify some things.
Let’s start off from some background on Seop’s character in the story: he was pressured by his father throughout his life to do his best and always be the best to the point of developing panic attacks. But then one day his cousin whom the family didn’t know existed appeared and Iseop gained a rival in succession. Iseop’s dad made some mistake and because of that mistake his cousin was the one who gained control of the company and became the vice-president. For Iseop it was like all of his life efforts were in vain and he wasn’t even the one who did anything wrong. (that’s why he kinda lost his drive and became lazy until the FL awoke the competitive passion in him again). He also does feel guilt about the fact that FL was always better than him but she ended up as just his secretary because of nepotism. Like, he regrets they don’t have the same standing and is afraid to pursue her from the position of power cause he thinks she treats him as a responsibility that she cannot defy.
Now onto the boring part:
The first mention of that “Resort project” is in the earlier chapters. It’s insignificant what are the details of that project, it’s just one of the things he was appointed to take care of.
Now, “m&a” that is mentioned in this chapter isn’t some company or anything, it’s a team on the TK company (the one they are all working at if you didn’t care to remember lol). M&A is a buissness slang abbreviation so let me explain what they do. If your brain can’t comprehend buisness talk then just skip the next part lol
M&A means merging and acquisition. It’s a strategy to expand a company (as - buying smaller companies) and those are like two different ways in which you can do that. So I’m assuming that the team was responsible for deciding how to proceed with management and the legal aspects of buying a smaller company into theirs. It’s kinda hard to understand so I will try to make it easier. It’s like the difference between buying a piece or pieces of something and trying to fit it into your own structure VS buying a whole structure and adding it to your own (in its original shape).
So acqusition = buying pieces - you simply pay a company and buy their assets, you are free to do whatever you want with it but it “loses structure” - so for example you have to rehire all the employees !! (important in this case)
Merging = buying structure - more legalized, you need state fillings, all of the parties involved need to agree but the employees keep their job.
Their m&a team did an oopsie and used acquisition instead of merging in this particular case. FL explained it was because they wanted to save the effort. So if you skipped the paragraph above - all the employees of the smaller company they bought were fired and there were probably some issues with accounting and such.
1) That’s why so many people were protesting in front of company - their companies were supposed to be joined but they prob lost their jobs or sth and now they blame the director in charge (Seop) and are demanding “employee succession” - change of director for someone who is qualified instead of a family member.
2. During the talk with her creepy bestie blamed Iseop for something like - M&A committed some creative accounting and fraud. When FL tried to defend him and explained it was the cousin’s who handled that case he was like “ye, but who benefited?”.
So everyone blames Iseop even though he didn’t know anything about it.
Now putting the pieces together - why Iseop got so mad. First of all, everyone in front of that building wants him fired and blames him even though it wasn’t his mistake. Which is kind of similar case to that from his past - when his dad made a mistake and all of his efforts went to shit. Secondly, he got so emotional because as he said “he also cares about this company and sacrificed his life for it but he still has to clean up someone else’s mess”. And thirdly he told the FL to just be moved somewhere else and give up on being his secretary because he was yet again being accused of being not-deserving of his position. Like, they wanted him fired and someone actually capable to replace him. So he felt the guilt again.
BUT the FL told him that the reason why he was able to keep his position in the first place after what his dad did was because the employees know that he deserves it. (the ones protesting are from another company) And that for her too it is an honour to work for him. So yeah, she kinda reassured him, perfectly eased his worries and motivated him to resolve this instead of agreeing to be the victim again.
Woow, thank you and now it seems all clearer and making sense
No problem, I’m glad I could help <3
Those translations sometimes feel like solving some logical puzzles lmao
omg tysm, I was sitting here confused af lmao
Thanks for the good and thorough explanation
Thank you for your explanation it's much more clear
THANK YOUUU
Thank you
This explanation was extremely helpful
I’m too impatient and the alternative universe story progresses rather slowly - can anyone tell me which chapter of the novel (more or less) is the webtoon covering rn?
Hiii. Where do you read the novel?
https://knoxt.space/into-the-rose-garden/ i read it here ^^
It just finished v2 chap 2. So you’ll have to read ‘Can’t Escape’ but please start from the beginning they cut a lot of things out of thr manhwa…
Thank you~
I’m gonna see if I can handle going through that hell of their first life together again but maybe I’ll tryy
Oh the first part of vol 1 is on https://chrysanthemumgarden.com/novel-tl/itrg/itrg-1/
Goodluck on vol 1. It’s hard to read but you’ll understand this story more, and it’s a lot deeper than it looks as you get farther. I enjoyed reading it.
The author used the omegaverse lore in a really haunting way, it’s not too obvious in vol 1, but like a puzzle it does connect. V5 should be out by the time you finish, hopefully hahaha the wait is killing people (⊙…⊙ )
I read so many similar stories that I mix them all up so I usually write myself like a recap of major events but for this story I haven’t written one for some reason. I literally only realized I’ve read it once I started to re-read it and I was like hold on... This is way to familiar. Anyways, I literally don’t remember anything and I don’t wanna re-read cause at the same time I remember too much so I would appreciate it if someone could remind me what happened till now (any events, trivia, relationship dynamics, struggles that the MC has faced…)
Count me in
It's not much but I'll share what I remember:
FL was married to the ex (shitty) guy that has a high position in society (I don't remember if he is the prince/duke/whatever) but he had a previous lover and spent his time with the lover. After the lover plan stuff to accuse the GL of a adultery (the irony) with the knight dude, the ex proposes divorce and she happily accepts. The grandfather in law doesn't know of this at the beginning and is pissed that they broke it without his consent and so he is forcing the ex to take her back, all while acting cute towards the FL. I think it is implied that he knows the GL is special somehow and wants her power for his son. Of course the ex is giving the feeling that he may like her now that he can't have her, classic. Oh and I think it is implied that the lover doesn't really love him? She just wants him for power so she is trying to make possible-grandfather-in-law to accept her (failing) and putting the "villainess" reputation to the FL.
Then we have Einz (knight dude) which is a childhood friend of FL and wants to protect her and has a weird curse that FL has apparently healed in the recent chapters, furthering making him fall for her. He is of low background but was a good knight so now he is respected (or something like that).
Lastly we have the ex's younger cousin (Black haired guy) which met the FL when she first entered the palace and slowly fell for her while she was married and wanted to take care of her and gave her gifts, but she saw it in. Platonic way due to the age difference and because she was already married. Now that she is free he is jumping on the opportunity and even invited her to a ball (where the ex obv got jelous) and he is showing her he now has power and respect and all that stuff and he is better than the ex (it's honestly hard to be worst tho). I may be wrong on this but I think there was the subplot of the grandfather having 2 children, with the ex being his nephew from the first one and the black haired dude being the "hidden" son of the other one, but the ex discovered it when he was younger and do he started to despise the black haired dude because he was afraid he could steal his position.
Lastly the FL after divorce opened her backery and was successful, the ex's lover tried to make her look bad but she was smarter and basically the lover digger her own grave by showing she is incompetent comparent to the FL. And lately she has these magical power that make her heal people apparently?
I thiiink i covered the major points and I hope it makes sense!
Yes, and now i remembered it litle by litle. Ehehehehe thank u so much(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Yes, and now i remembered it litle by litle. Ehehehehe thank u so much(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
OMG yes, thank you, you’re such an angel. It was kinda hazy in my memory but now you’ve connected the dots!
No prob! I also needed a good refresh to remember which one was this lol
...asking cause the art is very pretty but the storyline itself is so fast-paced and messy. Like, writing-wise it reminds me of something on the level of mediocre fanfiction on wattpad, you know? The scenes seem very out of context and just randomly happening one after another, there is no pacing or logic. The motivations and thought-processes of characters are just not there, they are all very one-dimensional to the point they seem grotesque. Did the author only want to set a scene for the story in a clumsy way or is it the whole story that’s written like that?
Which scenes is out of context? Maybe I was so enraged that I don't notice any 'no pacing or logic' things.
Well, maybe it’s less about the logic but more about the lack of connections between the events? We are presented with the info that her dad invested some money in the husband’s family, apparently his bankruptcy was somehow caused by that (how?) and FL blames the husband for the death of her father. But she believes he died of illness so why would it be their fault? Is it the classic “he fell ill of emotional distress” type of thing? And yeah, it is suggested that it was the step-mom who somehow caused his death but still, FL for years blamed his illness on husbands family somehow.
Oh and then we randomly find out that her STEP MOM tried to seduce her HUSBAND? What the hell was that about? So random.
Also we don’t even find out why they married in the first place. There is one childhood flashback but her dad was alive when they were getting married, her family was the one in power and it was the husband’s family who needed that power but they were treating her shitty even on the marriage fay? What was the power dynamic? Who is her family and who is her husband’s family?
She suddenly gets chased out the same day they inform her of the divorce, then appears in her family mansion and gets chased out by her step mom, and while she is by the river cliff considering jumping, she suddenly gets approached by her now ex husband with his new girl who are on the walk, like what? What were they doing on the walk there? In the middle of the forest, near her family house? And the girl tells her “oh if you wanna find out about your fathers death then go to the village your step mom is from. Or actually, nevermind, I’m gonna stab you now so screw that”. That stabbing scene was also so random. You get where I’m coming from? It was the first time we met the mistress character, we know nothing about her so it just seems like she’s “pure evil”, we don’t get shown any of her motivations, goals or where she’s coming from.
Then that scene with the king was also so unnatural. She woke up and went “wait, are you perhaps the king of x kindgom” “ye, that’s me, pledge your loyalty and help me with my revenge”. It’s not necessarily BAD it’s just so unnatural and rushed.
Sorry for the rant hahshsh Hope you at least enjoyed it. But yeah, I guess what I mean is that I’m more used to the authors taking their time to introduce the characters, explain the relationships, the motivations of everyone and this one felt a bit like a soap opera. Maybe the author does go into detail later on but that’s why I’m asking if it does get better or it’s just the writing style.
For her father,
Tbh she's saying that her father died of emotional distress due to her husband delayed to return his money to her father.
And only after the villain told her now she also know the step mother are to be blamed too.
The step mother tried to seduce her husband probably want to add more insult to MC.
They married because the husband pushed MC when they were young and he said he will responsible for her whole life afterward. Also, her husband intention is to get MC family's wealth to be put into his business.
What power dynamics? MC and husband family is noble in conservative country.
The author probably put alot shits in 1 day so that audiences flips the table.
Tbh, The now ex husband and villain girl probably followed her so that villain can tell everything and stab her. There is a reason why she stopped MC and stabbed her right away. Tell me if you want me to spoil em.
She knew ML because they met during her wedding day. If Im not mistaken, he did asked why shts happened. Then, he asked her if she want to do some revenge.
I agree with you that it's look so rushed tbh.
Idk if it's getting better or it's writing style but someone who read the novel verson said they stopped because they almost died due to high blood pressure. Loll
It’s so not-your typical CEO story.
The reaction of that oppa who pointed out that he should consider his position as her superior when making such advances at her? I mean, I don’t like his character either but it is great that he pointed it out. It’s true that if it wasn't a romance and they both weren’t interested in each other, he might have been a villain. Great how the story makes a point of how even if there is no obvious coercion and lack of permission, when someone is in an employee, in an inferior position, they might be unable to say no and it could still be abuse.
BUT SEOP. How self aware Soeop is of his privilege, how he feels bad, acknowledges the unfairness of it all and openly appreciates her? And how he gets so visibly careful and vulnerable around her? The fact that Seop took the friend’s comment so seriously and made sure he got a permission from her to kiss her? AND how she noticed how self-conscious he is and took the lead in the kiss? Plus she was sober so no stereotypical “oh no I was drunk and made a mistake with my CEO” bs? I love this story so much, it’s such a perfect balance between your typical romance cliches and a breath of fresh ideas on how to use them in the not-so-cliche story