I'm gonna be the one to post this, because I've been looking but haven't seen anyone else say anything. Does anyone else think it's a problem that they FALSELY accused Heesung of school bullying? Like, he was a jerk for sure, but did he deserve to have his career screwed over this heavily? He didn't get physical, he didn't try to force him to do anything, and he didn't do anything to screw up THEIR careers. Basically all he actually did was make some immature comments that made the MCs insecure about their relationship. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I think they really went too far, and to justify it they just say "he was born with a silver spoon, so this won't set him back any." In reality they know nothing about Heesung's actual life or the stability of his position. And the truth is this lie has already set him back since he was removed from ALL of his current projects and put on the back burner for the foreseeable future. They also totally took advantage of the fact that he wasn't out of the closet here. They knew he wouldn't actually take them to court for defamation (as they deserved MC or not) since he would have to reveal what really happened and the fact that he was queer. But, nevermind that. The main couple is cute together and totally in love so it doesn't matter, right guys? Lol, they were actually kind of trash for that. That was not an appropriate way to deal with the issues they were having with him.
To be clear, Heesung was a total jerk and definitely deserved reprocutions.
He might not be a school bully but he's been a bully to mc after they met again. He knew very well that mc didn't want to have anything to do with him anymore and was trying to be happy in his new relationship but he kept pestering him and playing tricks to get under mc's skin. He absolutely did get physical. He put his hands on mc in the toilet during their blind date even though mc told him to fuck off and luckily things didn't escalate just bcs ml arrived on time to save mc. Even after being told again and again to not bother them, he still tried to screw with them using his "power" and connections that he was so proud of. "Go on a few dates with me and maybe you won't be sent to Germany." Sounds like a fucking asshole bully to me. Imo the mc was a saint for putting up with his bullshit for that long and just let him off with warnings but he didn't listen, did he? He got what he deserved. If you don't want to bear consequences, don't be a fucking bully to people and think you can get away with it just because you have powerful connections. Serve the SOB right.
Yes he did deserve it all lol whatever. He's a silver spoon, he won't live on the streets just for that. He was not about to lose it all just for that. He'll live.
He might not be a school bully but he's been a bully to mc after they met again. He knew very well that mc didn't want to have anything to do with him anymore and was trying to be happy in his new relationship ... Zsims
I'm not saying Heesung wasn't in the wrong for what he did. He was definitely a jerk and you're right, the Germany thing was really messed up, though that's not what happened. He didn't have "power" in MC's company, he had power and connections in his own company and was going to use them to have HIMSELF sent to Europe, not to have MC sent over. He was offering for HIMSELF to not go to Europe if Youngwon went on three dates with him (with the reasoning that Hyunwoo would be upset if he found out they were on the same Continent). Kinda ridiculous, but to your point, still messed up.
Also, he's not bearing the consequences for what he did. He's bearing the consequences for something he didn't do and something that I personally think is much worse than what he actually did. Are we saying that if someone messes with you, you can get back at them however you like without regard to if the "punishment" actually matches the level of the offense? "Playing tricks to get under the MC's skin" does not seem like it deserves this kind of retaliation. Eye for an Eye means equal in my opinion.
Personally, I think that even the MC thought it might have gone too far. He even says it became a bigger deal than he had planned. The excuse he used justify that and help himself not feel so bad was that Heesung was born with a silver spoon anyway and would eventually be fine. Which is extremely shameless. He even says that "Worse case scenario, he can always LEAVE THE COUNTRY and work abroad" that's a direct quote and it's a bit much in my opinion.
I would have had Zero problems with Heesung facing reprocutions for what he actually did, and I think that without a doubt he should have. They could have baited him exactly the same as they did and gotten evidence of what he'd actually been saying and doing instead of framing him for bullying not just Youngwon, but Hyunwoo when he was going to college abroad (when in fact Heesung had never even met Hyunwoo before this). But that's not what they did, and we don't know how deep the consequences of Hyunwoo and Youngwon's accusations will go.
Yes he did deserve it all lol whatever. He's a silver spoon, he won't live on the streets just for that. He was not about to lose it all just for that. He'll live. aJ_13th
Lol, whether he's living on the streets or not is not the problem. Hyunwoo and Youngwon also weren't facing any type of financial stress and in fact Youngwon got offered a great opportunity in Germany. They, too, would have lived just fine. The real question is if the retaliation matched the level of the offense. In reality, Heesung was accused of doing something I think is more serious than what he actually did. He is also facing consequences he might not have if they revealed what he actually did instead of framing him for bullying Youngwon in highschool AND Hyunwoo in college. What they really did was get revenge, and since revenge was their goal of course they didn't care how far they screwed Heesung over. And by the way, they guessed at the silver spoon thing based on the fact that he wore expensive clothes and some rumors they heard at the company that they couldn't prove were even true. And even if they did know for a fact he had a "silver spoon", someone being better off than you isn't an excuse to do whatever you want to them when they slight you. Heesung definitely needed to leave Youngwon alone and he did deserve to be reprimanded or receive some kind of workplace punishment for trying to basically blackmail Youngwon into going on three dates with him. I don't think he deserved to get punished for something he didn't even do. Unless, of course, you're arguing that this punishment is what he would have received if they had reported him for his real behavior as well?
heeseung absolutely deserved the outcome he faced, not just because of his own actions, but also remember youngwon got extensive emotional trauma bc of heeseung. the bathroom scene was also not cool. like what if hyunwoo wasnt there to stop heeseung? with heeseung being heeseung, it could have gone so much worse for youngwoo. there were instances too that heeseung was leveraging his own power for selfish reasons. heeseungs actions were completely bullying. and i think saying the "revenge" or youngwon and hyunwoo's relaliation didn’t match the “level” of heeseung's offense downplays the impact his bullying had on youngwon. emotional trauma isn’t something that can be neatly weighed or “equaled out” — it can leave lasting scars. so id rather have heeseung punished that way than him not getting the consequences he deserved.
sorry i yapped too much! have a great day tho! or night!
Here's a thing yes they may lied about bullying but , he was totally harassing mc in company, trying to play him again and again , threatening that he'd make him go to Germany and he'd be there too, even tho mc made clear boundaries that he didn't wanted to see him anymore after blind date he still pushed and pushed , if he actually cared about his work he wouldn't use and abuse the power (aka saying that he has connections so he can make mc go to Germany wether he wants or not) about being queer - he was the one who said oh ama sue you and mc was like go ahead because i don't care that im gay so do whatever . + Whole queer community knew about him being gay (because that gay people already knew about him going on blind date and mcs friend also knew he was gay because he proposed gay blind date) also not bullying? What is bullying? Telling someone is disgusting? He did that . Not listening while having sex and manipulating them to let you do whatever you want to them? He also did that giving someone lifelong trauma? He did that too so i think he was bully and rape (well it's to big of a word) elements where too him not using lube even tho mc told him it hurt and then on blind date going in toilet with him and pinning him on wall , we all know he wants trying to have jus friendly conversation with him . And back to his work again if he cared he wouldn't do such idiotic shit at work , and wouldn't brag about richness and connections around and how he's close to ceo of company . Im conclusion he wasn't blamed for something he didn't do. , i think bullying was easier way to report then what actual happened
heeseung absolutely deserved the outcome he faced, not just because of his own actions, but also remember youngwon got extensive emotional trauma bc of heeseung. the bathroom scene was also not cool. like what ... meiji
Not to mention, Heesung also talked about his first fuck which is Young-won to other gay. That is why the reason why Hyun-woo rushed to the bar where Heesung and Young-won meet-up.
I'm gonna be the one to post this, because I've been looking but haven't seen anyone else say anything.
Does anyone else think it's a problem that they FALSELY accused Heesung of school bullying? Like, he was a jerk for sure, but did he deserve to have his career screwed over this heavily? He didn't get physical, he didn't try to force him to do anything, and he didn't do anything to screw up THEIR careers. Basically all he actually did was make some immature comments that made the MCs insecure about their relationship.
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I think they really went too far, and to justify it they just say "he was born with a silver spoon, so this won't set him back any." In reality they know nothing about Heesung's actual life or the stability of his position. And the truth is this lie has already set him back since he was removed from ALL of his current projects and put on the back burner for the foreseeable future. They also totally took advantage of the fact that he wasn't out of the closet here. They knew he wouldn't actually take them to court for defamation (as they deserved MC or not) since he would have to reveal what really happened and the fact that he was queer. But, nevermind that. The main couple is cute together and totally in love so it doesn't matter, right guys? Lol, they were actually kind of trash for that. That was not an appropriate way to deal with the issues they were having with him.
To be clear, Heesung was a total jerk and definitely deserved reprocutions.
He might not be a school bully but he's been a bully to mc after they met again. He knew very well that mc didn't want to have anything to do with him anymore and was trying to be happy in his new relationship but he kept pestering him and playing tricks to get under mc's skin. He absolutely did get physical. He put his hands on mc in the toilet during their blind date even though mc told him to fuck off and luckily things didn't escalate just bcs ml arrived on time to save mc. Even after being told again and again to not bother them, he still tried to screw with them using his "power" and connections that he was so proud of. "Go on a few dates with me and maybe you won't be sent to Germany." Sounds like a fucking asshole bully to me. Imo the mc was a saint for putting up with his bullshit for that long and just let him off with warnings but he didn't listen, did he? He got what he deserved. If you don't want to bear consequences, don't be a fucking bully to people and think you can get away with it just because you have powerful connections. Serve the SOB right.
Yes he did deserve it all lol whatever. He's a silver spoon, he won't live on the streets just for that. He was not about to lose it all just for that. He'll live.
I'm not saying Heesung wasn't in the wrong for what he did. He was definitely a jerk and you're right, the Germany thing was really messed up, though that's not what happened.
He didn't have "power" in MC's company, he had power and connections in his own company and was going to use them to have HIMSELF sent to Europe, not to have MC sent over. He was offering for HIMSELF to not go to Europe if Youngwon went on three dates with him (with the reasoning that Hyunwoo would be upset if he found out they were on the same Continent). Kinda ridiculous, but to your point, still messed up.
Also, he's not bearing the consequences for what he did. He's bearing the consequences for something he didn't do and something that I personally think is much worse than what he actually did. Are we saying that if someone messes with you, you can get back at them however you like without regard to if the "punishment" actually matches the level of the offense? "Playing tricks to get under the MC's skin" does not seem like it deserves this kind of retaliation. Eye for an Eye means equal in my opinion.
Personally, I think that even the MC thought it might have gone too far. He even says it became a bigger deal than he had planned. The excuse he used justify that and help himself not feel so bad was that Heesung was born with a silver spoon anyway and would eventually be fine. Which is extremely shameless. He even says that "Worse case scenario, he can always LEAVE THE COUNTRY and work abroad" that's a direct quote and it's a bit much in my opinion.
I would have had Zero problems with Heesung facing reprocutions for what he actually did, and I think that without a doubt he should have. They could have baited him exactly the same as they did and gotten evidence of what he'd actually been saying and doing instead of framing him for bullying not just Youngwon, but Hyunwoo when he was going to college abroad (when in fact Heesung had never even met Hyunwoo before this). But that's not what they did, and we don't know how deep the consequences of Hyunwoo and Youngwon's accusations will go.
Lol, whether he's living on the streets or not is not the problem. Hyunwoo and Youngwon also weren't facing any type of financial stress and in fact Youngwon got offered a great opportunity in Germany. They, too, would have lived just fine.
The real question is if the retaliation matched the level of the offense. In reality, Heesung was accused of doing something I think is more serious than what he actually did. He is also facing consequences he might not have if they revealed what he actually did instead of framing him for bullying Youngwon in highschool AND Hyunwoo in college. What they really did was get revenge, and since revenge was their goal of course they didn't care how far they screwed Heesung over. And by the way, they guessed at the silver spoon thing based on the fact that he wore expensive clothes and some rumors they heard at the company that they couldn't prove were even true. And even if they did know for a fact he had a "silver spoon", someone being better off than you isn't an excuse to do whatever you want to them when they slight you.
Heesung definitely needed to leave Youngwon alone and he did deserve to be reprimanded or receive some kind of workplace punishment for trying to basically blackmail Youngwon into going on three dates with him. I don't think he deserved to get punished for something he didn't even do. Unless, of course, you're arguing that this punishment is what he would have received if they had reported him for his real behavior as well?
Ur so true they should’ve killed him instead
heeseung absolutely deserved the outcome he faced, not just because of his own actions, but also remember youngwon got extensive emotional trauma bc of heeseung. the bathroom scene was also not cool. like what if hyunwoo wasnt there to stop heeseung? with heeseung being heeseung, it could have gone so much worse for youngwoo. there were instances too that heeseung was leveraging his own power for selfish reasons. heeseungs actions were completely bullying. and i think saying the "revenge" or youngwon and hyunwoo's relaliation didn’t match the “level” of heeseung's offense downplays the impact his bullying had on youngwon. emotional trauma isn’t something that can be neatly weighed or “equaled out” — it can leave lasting scars. so id rather have heeseung punished that way than him not getting the consequences he deserved.
sorry i yapped too much! have a great day tho! or night!
Here's a thing yes they may lied about bullying but , he was totally harassing mc in company, trying to play him again and again , threatening that he'd make him go to Germany and he'd be there too, even tho mc made clear boundaries that he didn't wanted to see him anymore after blind date he still pushed and pushed , if he actually cared about his work he wouldn't use and abuse the power (aka saying that he has connections so he can make mc go to Germany wether he wants or not) about being queer - he was the one who said oh ama sue you and mc was like go ahead because i don't care that im gay so do whatever . + Whole queer community knew about him being gay (because that gay people already knew about him going on blind date and mcs friend also knew he was gay because he proposed gay blind date) also not bullying? What is bullying? Telling someone is disgusting? He did that . Not listening while having sex and manipulating them to let you do whatever you want to them? He also did that giving someone lifelong trauma? He did that too so i think he was bully and rape (well it's to big of a word) elements where too him not using lube even tho mc told him it hurt and then on blind date going in toilet with him and pinning him on wall , we all know he wants trying to have jus friendly conversation with him . And back to his work again if he cared he wouldn't do such idiotic shit at work , and wouldn't brag about richness and connections around and how he's close to ceo of company . Im conclusion he wasn't blamed for something he didn't do. , i think bullying was easier way to report then what actual happened
dk man, seems to me like he deserves all of that ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Not to mention, Heesung also talked about his first fuck which is Young-won to other gay. That is why the reason why Hyun-woo rushed to the bar where Heesung and Young-won meet-up.
I thought exactly the same thing as you, the protagonists lied and ruined the "villain"'s career just because he was an asshole