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oh noooooo

Please no

^what I learned in high school lol

spoil meeeee (〜￣△￣)〜

All these "no" got me nervous... now I don't even know if I should read this spoiler XD hahahahaha

What happened and which chapters are they? I need to prepare myself.

Purple hair has to do with it, doesn't he?

Is Junoh seen as 'being gay' and Minoh outs himself or something to protect Junoh?

it's been a while since i've read it, so i can't remember specific chapters or events, but i've only read up to chapter 60. here's a nice teaser picture though: https://imgur.com/a/csxLc

WTF?!

That looks a bit like he either caught his bf cheating on him and is distraught and filled with rage... Or he just realized that Minoh is in love with him and he is completely weirded out because he doesn't know how to feel about it. Or he just realized that HE is in love with Minoh and he is completely weirded out because he doesn't know how to feel about it or if he has a chance with Minoh.

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In that panel Junoh is thinking, "Crazy bastard," because his mom just told him that purple-haired guy (hereafter PHG), whom she thought of as Junoh's friend, came over to his house. PHG used to bully Junoh (although before that they were friends), so Junoh is angry/terrified about PHG pretending be his friend again in front of his mom. He thinks PHG is coming after him again. PHG's name is Jaehee or something. But Junoh is no longer some wilting flower.

Ah.

Yeah, latest chapter showed the ugliness of PHG so him coming round would definitely illicit that reaction.

But what does PHG have to do with the tone of the series of Minoh and Junoh's love story? How does he interfere with things if M and J both hate PHG and see him for the ugly borish idiot he is?

I reread (well, as best I could considering how limited my Korean is) the raws and it looks like Junoh and Jaehee (that's PHG) have a pretty complicated past that I think needed to be addressed before the story could really get anywhere between the MCs. Because of Jaehee's appearance we get to see a side of Junoh that we hadn't seen before (he's not as fragile or innocent as he seems), and we also find out for sure that he's gay.

By the way, while the story does take a dark turn for a while, it ends with almost the same sort of lighthearted mood that it started with (except now we have a much deeper understanding of some of the characters). So don't worry, because the fluff doesn't get permanently derailed.

Oh, also, Jaehee isn't completely bad.

Ah.

So you mean it goes angsty for a while but not dark tragic angsty. Like how one series that started off light, fluffy, and happy has the uke get raped and them break up and the uke move out.

Yeah, this one has a happy ending.

What comic are you talking about??? O.O

is the mangga already finished? ┗( T﹏T )┛

No. It's raw spoilers for http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/how_much_i_like_you/

Which is Lezhin. There is a STRONG pattern of love stories on Lezhin turning dark. Especially, the queer ones but I've noticed that it is mostly for yaoi. There are VERY FEW happy gay sweet love English translated series on Lezhin. There is always ANGST, dark past, being physically attacked, etc.

Some go a bit angsty like My Girlfriend's Ex-Boyfriend ( http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/my_girlfriend_s_ex_boyfriend/), but it never went to the levels that I see in regards to yaoi or male gay/bisexual characters.

I'm STILL pissed about Innocent Sin going so fucking dark.


Foxtoon is pretty bad at that as well: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/raising_a_bat/

This is perhaps a Korean tendency rather than a Lezhin tendency. Westerners (esp Americans) often expect a happy ending. Koreans do not. Plus, Korea's really homophobic for a developed nation, so regardless of whether the authors themselves are homophobic, stories centered around gay characters do often take a dark turn. (I'm actually in Korea right now and people get pretty uncomfortable if I bring up homosexuality.) But it's not just LGBTQ themed stories. A lot of (extremely heteronormative) Korean dramas do this as well, especially Hong Sisters dramas.

i also wanted to point out that on batoto, this series is labeled as "tragedy" and "horror," so we might have even more heartbreak to come

jesus christ its not that deep fam chill

you sound like some angsty 15 year old whose life revolves solely around bad memes and suicide jokes, i hope you find happiness soon

Sorry gotta agree with anon, you went from 0-100 real quick. Also, Touma has had friends before, platonic ones. He can clearly differentiate the two. And I don't think the toxcity would be a problem since Ayumu thought Touma was at least attractive since the beginning.

you're completely entitled to your opinion, but i feel like you gravely misunderstood mine. my biggest issue with touma was summarized in the very last sentence of my post: "i'm glad that touma redeemed himself near the end, but i wish he'd stop likening "friendship" to something that's just supposed to be used as a stepping stone until it can be replaced with something "better" like a relationship." i don't doubt that touma's able to differentiate the two. if anything, i'm fully aware that he acknowledges that there's a difference since he prioritizes a romantic/sexual relationship with ayumu rather than a platonic one. i also want to redirect you back to my very first sentence, which is "i like this so far, but if ayumu really didn't have any interest in touma, i feel like this could've turned unhealthy extremely quickly." my whole post was based on the fictional basis that ayumu had zero interest in touma, but even if we were to consider in this already fake scenario that ayumu was at least physically attracted to touma's appearance, it doesn't negate the possibility that ayumu could be unintentionally guilt-tripped into a relationship. i also want to explicitly state that finding someone attractive in no way automatically ensures that a person would be willing to date said attractive person, and that "being attractive" in and of itself doesn't clear "toxcity," as you've put it. i do appreciate your input, however; feel free to reply if you have any more comprehensive comments.

I feel like many assumptions were made based on my statements but I didn't mean anything more or less than what I said. The reason why I mentioned Ayumu's attraction to Touma is because I thought it was obvious and clear from the beginning that their relationship was going to head in a romantic direction. I also think that Touma wanting to be friends with Ayumu before becoming lovers is reasonable. Because I don't think he saw it as just a stepping stone. He said he wanted to get to know him better. And he obviously wanted to spend time with him. He obviously doesn't see friendship as just a stepping stone towards romantic relationships. I just don't see Ayumu being in a relationship out of guilt in any scenario tbh.

you're taking my post out of the context that it was specifically designed for. i understand that their relationship in this series is supposed to be a romantic/sexual one; it's labeled as yaoi, after all. besides that, just to make sure we're on the same page, let me paste google's definition of stepping stone for you. "an undertaking or event that helps one to make progress toward a specified goal." touma's goal was to eventually date ayumu. touma wanted to start off by being friends with ayumu in order to date him. his friendship with ayumu is the 'undertaking or event' that helps him make progress towards his goal, which is dating ayumu. he's using friendship as a stepping stone to date ayumu, whether he's aware of it or not. i also don't think there's anything wrong with being friends and trying to get to know each other before dating, but again, my issue is that he only wants to befriend ayumu as a way of getting to know him (and conversely, letting ayumu get to know him) in order for ayumu to date him. he expresses disinterest in just being friends, which can put pressure on ayumu. "if ayumu only wanted to remain friends with touma, would touma be okay with that? or would he distance himself because he only wanted to pursue a romantic relationship with him?" is also another way of summarizing my post. in that scenario, assuming that ayumu would be afraid of touma leaving him, i could see him trying to force himself into a relationship with touma. i'll explain the scene a bit so you could understand my take on this better: touma is ayumu's very first friend. assuming that he is attached to touma, the idea that touma could completely cut contact with him and leave him is a terrifying thought. knowing that touma is interested in pursuing a relationship with him, i think a natural last attempt at trying to date him in order to keep touma around seems plausible.

i think that's about it for my explanation? if there's anything you still want me to clarify on, do ask, but i feel that my initial post was pretty sufficient in the first place. otherwise, if you're still unable to see it from my perspective, i think it's best to just agree to disagree. sorry for the long post.

lmao sammmmmmme. i was just like, wtf did I read?! (〜￣△￣)〜