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if you love the sweet stupid man which is absolute green flag but easily make mistakes with his words and action even if his intention is good.. I recommend you to read Grayson and Dane story. Surprisingly, after I've done read KMIYC novel and move to this one, Grayson ended up make me love him harder that KMIYC couple. I really didn't expect that turn.. really.
Still hate what he is done to Chase, but the more I know him, the more I love him.
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I'll give it a try, thanks

DMIYC is actually my fave by ZIG by far (probably along with R&C). I found KMIYC pretty boring but Grayson and Dane gave me more than enough adrenaline rushes! And I just adore Grayson so I'm s bit partial when it comes to them. What I mean is, it's totally worth it.

I understand not liking that psychopath. He honestly had his screw loose ever since he was a child, so he tried to compensate it in doing it his own way, but instead of expressing what he really wants to say, he just ends up making everyone think he's insane and that that's normal for him so nobody tried to tell him what he does is wrong.

Grayson, without anything to do with his family, is an entirely different character.

His past is explained in esrly chapters; while it’s understandable why he is the way he is—and why he did what he did—it’s up to the reader to decide whether that’s enough to forgive him for everything he put Chase through, or whether to approach his story as something fresh.

Furthermore, it’s possible to hate him in *KMIYC* yet appreciate him in *DMIYC*. In *KMIYC*, he is crafted to be something of a villain—an introduction to *that* specific type of alpha and that particular family—serving as the complete antithesis to Chase (though not, of course, to the drugged or violent version of Chase). In *DMIYC*, by contrast, Grayson emerges as a more comedic figure; he’s searching for his soulmate, caught in a push-and-pull dynamic with Dane while navigating an environment very much outside his comfort zone and dealing with all kind of people. And, interestingly, even though these were the very first characters the author created—and remain her personal favorites— Grayson's story has been recently told so many readers went with an idea of him from other novels.

Personally, I don't really care for him, I like Dane better and the relationship they have so his novel was something I decided to approach as something new.

I read the comments before starting reading DMIYC (I'm up to date with the officials, chp 24) everyone was spitting on Dane and defending Grayson is there a reason why or do I need to catch up with the raws to understand?

Well, if you mind spoilers I'm gonna put them very down below but it's better to read KMIYC first to have the notion of Grayson, his behaviour towards his family and people close to his family to understand some actions that happen in DMIYC and were done to him that unfortunately contributed into making worse Dane's idea of him


























I can only think in this situation where Dane actually sexually assaulted (raped) Grayson because he, Dane, got suddenly into heat and there wasn't any suppressants so he used Grayson's condition as an alpha to calm himself but Grayson didn't wanted to. While Dane apologized and tried to make amends, it wasn't pretty to read as you already know. Or they don't like him because he's constantly and firmly rejecting Grayson advances to the point he, Dane, doesn't mince his words and he's harsh with him because after all he only knows the playboy, superficial, egotistical version of Grayson. I suppose people who like Grayson, who understand his condition, think he doesn't deserve to be treated badly by Dane, who doesn't care if he's hurt by his words (for now). Story's early version of Dane's pretty straightforward and he's not the type to chase after people.
But the truth is that they don't know each other. Grayson is chasing a fantasy. He wants what his parents have, what he, Grayson considers true love, a soulmate, so when certain conditions where met, his attraction to Dane became obsession with making him his soulmate while he doesn't understand why he feels that way but aware enough that he wants Dane and, also, without taking time to know him and actually care for what made Dane what he is today. Little by little, he begins to understand his own 'emotions', a lot of work was done too, and he actually starts to change and do a lot for Dane, to the point of caring for what Dane holds close to his heart like his cat; and Dane sees that change in Grayson and opens his heart to him.
Future Grayson with Dane is pretty melow and kinda submissive so I can see why that's attractive for many and people feel the need to defend what he will become before time.

DEADASS im not one for kink shaming BUT THATS A WHOLE ASS DOG BRUH

Idk where you came from and when you started reading yaoi but this has been going on since idk forever? Especially beastiality. It seems like you only got to see sunshine and rainbows ... You are not even half of the genre a yaoi has... This are even far more worse than this. You don't even know the ogre bride??? Thats a famous one back then.

It's literally been over a decade since i started reading yaoi so yes i know that there are all nasty kind of work under the yaoi genre. But that doesnt mean I should act like thats fine? I dont know if you count demi humans into the same basket as that (which i can understand) but I never seen in a bl a literal animal fucking the uke. And I don't get why every one is just okay with that. Not to mention, that i am not one to kink shame too, but THAT shouldnt be a kink, its an animal, a crime, i cant fathom how one can read that and their dick/clit would go hard. Its gross

brudda theres a clear difference between monster fucking and DOG FUCKING... i mean sure he's pretty humanoid for the most part but at the end he literally turns into 85% of a whole ass dog...

And? There are a lot of dog fuckin here... Ever heard of remnant the series? If thats what you want of an example go ahead and search it

Actually let me help with you that. Here. https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/remnant_kemonohito_omegaverse/ its a dog
If that isnt even "dog" for you i can have an example of another else

Okay here is a thing if you are gross out then idk maybe scroll or not read it anymore? Why ask if someone likes this cause clearly we all have different tastes / views / perspective etc cause deadass "that shouldn't be a kink" if it isnt kink for you or you don't like this kink someone likes this "kink"

i am definitely not asking recs for some weird ass beastiality bs. if thats what you like, you do you, but i certainly hope you dont have pets... maaad concerning tbh

You are not. But you are saying that its diff category that a monster and dog fuckin arent the same thats why i gave another one that is clearly a dog

Do you think a story with a dog as the ml is going to comfort us? Like "Oh, wait, theres one other story with the same plot? That must mean its fine and totally not gross. Silly me" your arguments doesnt work.

omfg youre bringing a whole ass other story into the equation. and since we're going there, that shit is beastiality too, so whats your point?? i will say it again, monster fucking genre is entirely separate than dog fucking (aka beastiality lol). just because something might have a monster fucker tag doesnt mean its automatically beastiality, but it is beastiality if it's an actual ANIMAL LIKE A DOG smfh

Trust me i already dropped it and made sure i wouldnt be notified of the updates. At first i didnt even think about about leaving a comment because as i said i already dropped it because it disgusted me.

But i have a habit of checking the comments after finishing a chapter so i did automatically and was grossed out by the comments. So yeah, i posted my comment to see if there were other people who didnt condone ts. I hoped I just happened to read only the ones who did.

And no, it shouldnt be a kink? Are you serious? Do you think someone who looks at a dog or a wolf in a lustful way is sane of mind?

And before you start "b-b-but its only fictional they don't hurt any real dog" Do you think people who read yaoi with bdsm only have vanilla sex in real life and are grossed out by bdsm irl? Its a kink it manifest irl and in art and just because its fictional doesnt make it better.

I will say it again too. I clearly said and gave that because of the line "since when beastiality" since forever ... And I gave one actually thats one kinda fresh 2017 ... Idk what u dont get

Uh i never stutter and such but anyway, this a whole fiction argument again. This is such a simple matter. If you dont like it go ahead if but if you don't like it and questions one kink i think that where the problem lies cause this is clearly fiction do we have beastiality in reality? Like a dog like this one? No right?

And btw exactly i gave that because its also BEASTIALITY. Cause u said monster and dog are different? Idk why ur pressed? Cause the first example i gave was "monster" so i gave you a dog ¯_(ツ)_/¯

But since i now gave you a dog like what you said you gotta make a new narrative to divert the first issue "why am i bringing another story" and we are going back again with this one cause AGAIN its for you and the other person "since when beastiality" "a dog and a monster fucking are different" i alr summarize it

And before you start again. Let me quote on this one for the comment above

"Of course, this manhwa is just meant for some people, you're not obligated to read it if you don't want to, just know this isn't BL.

An author is allowed to use their free will to create a story like this, kinks or not, sensitive topics or not, they're just sharing their thoughts through that work and trying to find a community that likes it. They have no fault until they have actual real controversy outside of their occupation."

Now if u have an issue quoting on someone i can go ahead and make mine. But here is a simpler one.

The thing is, I don't think it's a kink if it hurts someone (the animal), because yes bestiality exist irl. It sick but it does, you can find real life example all thorough history, with dogs, dolphin, wolves, cats, and so on. Do you think those animal being raped is hot? (I used the word raped bc obviously they never consented to be touched in such way bc yk... dogs can't talk) I'm not just saying shit to say shit btw, bestiality is a crime that's recognised by law so i dont get how you could think that supposedly "kink" isnt dangerous

"what happens in fiction stays in fiction" unless some are sick fucc are into this in REALITY then thats a diff whole new topic ,, your first topic was "Since when is bestiality our go to yaoi kinks" i said since forever ive been here since 2011 and ive seen a lot worse than this one thats what im replying to and i gave an example that was on 2017 cause of the question "when" if it isnt your kink then okay go ahead and be on your way if we are gon dive in deeper than your prev context then ill stick by what i said that this is just fiction quote on this:

Just think of it like this: An author wanting to create a pornographic story, they're adults and use their occupation and talent for the stuff they like. They have kinks and fetishes and put it in their work? Alright, it's their work. Some readers don't like it? Alright, they drop it because they're not the targeted public.

This work is meant for other people, if you don't like it don't read it and ignore it. It's valid, there's no reward of a happy ending because it's porn with no story. In porn there's many weird stuff, we know that already. Some are harmless some are harmful but we know the majority is harmful.


Cause again its fiction: an author expresses their ideas
. Obviously we have different taste/perspective if you dont like it or if you do read or dont read .... I just replied to your comment because of what you said since when did beast etc. because there has been a lot since 2011.

I agree it's so cute and funny. Second hand embarrassment is a need sometimes with the story development lol

THANK YOU!!!

Always

oh I think you would adore our sunny days, Smyrna & capri, dear captain darling, red string quest, off the plate then! (but especially the first one lol)

So, is it worth it?

not rn, i would say marinate if you want to read it for later

I agree with Erie!! It’s good but it sounds like you’d enjoy it more after a couple more chapters (let it marinate)

i don‘t think it‘s worth it tbh i dropped this some time ago and just checked in again and i still don‘t like it