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As long as they are both adults no…. And he wasn’t like 18 or 19 (〜￣△￣)〜

It’s also completely healthy some people like older people

there's nothing crazy about it

jesus SIXTEEN??? idc if they're adults that's still weird asf that's a whole decade and almost a half

How is it weird….you do understand some people like older people their are even songs about it

There^

right like these replies are crazy

How is it crazy

sixteen is weird because people with that age gap have gone through insanely different things, and no matter the age, the level of maturity is completely different. sixteen years is a whole person in highschool. one of the people in the relationship wasn't even a though, while one was already in highschool.

did you read the story or...? Because it's not grooming as they met both as adults and talk about how things can be very different for them and all. American puritanism really is destroying everything, just go away if you don't like it :')

right???? bc how do you not see that sixteen years is a weirddd age gap

i'm just commenting on how odd a sixteen year age gap is. especially since those people have most likely lived through very different times and the levels of maturity. also, you can't blame everything on puritanism.

It is a big gap but: in this story they met when they are ADULTS. Not before or anything. They actually talk about it, they even broke up because of it. There is NOTHING weird in this story. Sheesh, yes it's puritanism because a story between adults is not WEIRD for fuck's sake. And I know it's stupid on my part to try to speak with people on the internet that are close minded about fictionnal characters but it's so fucking annoying

He wasn’t grooming him never even saw him in the past and your right different maturity levels which helps have different ways and values to love they are both grown adults and in fact many couples have a big gap as long if they didn’t meet when one was a minor then it’s okay your being simple minded ngl

i hope you know that it doesn’t have to be grooming to be werid, and adults can be groomed. i’m commenting on the age gap because you can’t really just ignore it. sixteen years IS weird. you can’t at the very least acknowledge that much. even if it IS normalized, that doesn’t mean it’s okay. i hope you know that adults can still be in iffy relationships.

you can acknowledge the strange age gap and still read the story. but at the same time, you can’t just say it’s completely normal, because it really isn’t. and a story between adults can still be weird. pointing something out that could potentially be harmful and unhealthy isn’t puritanism, by the way .

Idk why yall up in these comments instead of actual problem age gaps or weird stories that are here this isn't rly that major they met when he was 24 like

Saying all this while reading ennead is crazy

Well in this case no adults were groom mutual love and fluff

Right over here reading rape stories and complaining about two adults loving each other bullshit

as you get older it doesnt really matter

yes!! bring up something unrelated to the topic at hand and dodge my questions/argument!!

did you just not read any of my argument holy shit. first, i am aware of ennead and its theme. for the most part, the rape scenes are not shown as consensual, yes there is one that is iffy and is why i do not like the creator that much. i am reading it as i started it and like most of its story. second, my argument is that the age gap is weird. never said anything was wrong with them loving each other.

also, i am aware of ennead’s rape scenes. fyi, all of them (except for 1, which a reason i don’t like the creator that much) were framed as consensual. as for the one that wasn’t there is more context to it (main character gets literally bought as a slave and raped by another character that isn’t the love interest). mind you, the love interest DID rape the main character. while he was essentially being mind controlled and did not know what he was doing. other scenes were by the main character’s basically, like abuser, for lack of better wording. this may not justify the actions portrayed, but it at least adds more context and reasons. no i don’t support rape i feel this has to go without saying but wtv. i already started the story and i feel like i’m too far in to stop. i have like stockholm syndrome idk.

ok upd i highkey might give up on it bc it literally hasn’t updated in god knows how long plus i js read some1s analysis on it and it showed some stuff in a different light, so i do applaud you for this point and helping show me a flaw in my character. still, the issue at hand wasn’t addressed. i just skimmed through the first few chapters and if i’m not mistaken, their ages are forty and twenty-four. excuse me? how are we justifying this now.

um, it’s literally a twenty four year old and a forty year old. i fear these are EXTREMELY different levels of maturity.

I mean yeah generally speaking it's sus but in this particular situation there's no power imbalance to make it problematic. And while they do have different levels of life experience they're both in a period of transition and reinvention so they're in a more similar stage than others with the same age gap. Of course they're still going to have some age-related hurdles but this specific relationship isn't inherently toxic. It's maybe the only age-gap romance where that's the case

i do see what u mean. i just feel like it’s so odd because did we have to have a sixteen year age gap. different maturity could have been shown with, like a six year age gap or smth geez.

Yes it can still be weird like in 95% of bl where there is rape and/or dub con which is not the case here and that you actually read. Hypocrisy and puritanism at their finest x) (and deleting them is too late now, we all saw it)

Also, anything an be potentially be weird and harmful. Not the case here. Adults in an adult relationship wow so harmful and weird

gang i literally admitted to being in the wrong for that and realizing my mistake. i do acknowledge that i read that and i do see how it affected my argument and overall person. did you not read that or? i will in the future consider what i'm reading. as for the argument at hand, twenty four and forty are incredibly weird. twenty four is an age where you are more prune to making dumb and impulsive choices while in your forties, you've grown more as a person and understand what are good and bad choices. please read past messages before replying.

now that i'm in a better state of mind and not writing this at night, i think i can say my actual thoughts and decisions regarding ennead. i know that i should not have been reading it as it contained problematic material, yet i still did. i felt somewhat "justified" since everyone else was reading it, and kept on making excuses for my actions. i had read alot of it and felt as i needed to finish what i started, which is obviously not true. now, i have decided to stop following it and keeping up with its future updates. from now on, i promise to use better judgement on what i read and what material it contains. keeping ennead on my reading now list while arguing against a first of summers did make me a hypocrite and i take full accountability for that. you can continue to critic me on my choice to read it, but don't just use that to dismiss my argument as a whole. thank you to the users who called me out on this as it helped me take a better view at myself and my reading habits altogether. i still plan on arguing on the topic of the age gap of a first of summers, as i feel it is still something that should be talked about. i am open to any criticims of this entire apology as well as anything relating to me reading ennead. i am also open to ways to better myself as a person overall. i am sorry for being defensive at first and trying to justify what i was reading. again, thank you.

oh, and yes i do take full accountability for anything i said in this entire thread.

um so why did i see jinx in your reading now.. tbf it is at one of the last pages, but since you went through my things that i'm reading now i thought it would only be fair.

Life isn’t linear, and sometimes people, regardless of their age or life experience, end up liking each other, and that’s okay. A 16-year age gap is larger than average, but it can work without it being weird.

i would’ve been less harsh if it was, like people in their fifties or something, but twenty-four and forty?? that’s bordering on predatory. when you’re in your twenties you already don’t have that much life experience. it just feels like preying on the naviety of a person. if the age gap was wayyy less, i could see it, i guess.

both adults btw

help what point does that make . adults can be in harmful relationships it doesn't stop when you turn 18. mind you, the characters are 24 and 40.

So did any of these characters harm each other?

that’s kind of not my point. it’s just the fact that a forty year old deciding to get with a twenty four year old in it of itself is very sketchy. just think about it for a second.

u can be in a toxic relationship at any age

Actually the younger one wanted him first the older one literally broke up with him for a sec. Because of judgmental people like YOU they are both adults in the right state of mind loving each other no grooming nothing you keep bringing up points like “what if what if” like girl noting wrong with the age gap not everyone likes someone close age to them and some people fall in love with who ever love is love and it can be beautiful and their relationship was in fact was .Don’t like it don’t read you must have never been in a gay bar either because this is very common Lmboo

doesn't matter which one wanted it first. u don't say that abt 16 yr olds wanting 2 get with like 20 yr olds. it's not a very healthy relationship if one of you is still learning how the world works and another one has already lived through so much. i fear the age gap IS pretty bad. that's 2002 and 1986 (i am using 2026 as a reference for the years btw, it could be different depending on the exact time of the story but it's somewhere around there). jesus, do you just enjoy getting off topic and talking about things unrelated? just because something is common and normalized, doesn't mean it's good. smoking's pretty normalized in modern society but it doesn't mean you should go smoke.

Is sketchy harmful? I don't get YOUR point, wat r u trying to tell us, is this story harmful? If yes, please explain

Actually nevermind...you enjoy being miserable and I hope other people give u the attention you want op. Im blocking you.

He is a legal drinking age last year on college what is your problem this is perfectly normal you also talking about bringing up off topic well how does that comparing to smoking tf bringing up all the situations of “but if an16 year old blah blah like girl he isn’t 16 that’s a grown ass man both of them are you talking about maturity when you in fact need to grow tf up because you clearly don’t understand healthy relationships

“that’s a grown ass man” and it’s a twenty four year old. there are so many people throughout social media saying how when they were in their twenties they weren’t fully mature and grown. just because you’re a certain age doesn’t automatically make you as mature and wise as the age. when you turn 18, you don’t suddenly start making the smarest decisions in the world. now, when you’re forty, you have much more life experience and understand what you’re doing. have you considered maybe age doesn’t equal maturity?

since you guys need me to literally spell out the answer for u, my entire point is that the age gap is weird. that’s the whole thing i’ve been talking aout. this is not a normal age gap and it shouldn’t be normalized.

I think you read the story completely , until the latest chap and then give out whatever point you need to give. Because like according to your point they went thru the said same arc because the age gap felt weird to the older one and he left. Your point for this story is pointless because, even until 40 you are still nativgating your life, with what you want to do with what you dont want to do, and thats what the 40 yr old was going thru too, even with tons of experiences, you will never know what you want. Also again even if have tons of experiences in life, if you are not understanding in the relationship it won't work out. Simple as that. Thats why that age gap is there. You dont want to understand the story. And that is showing. You keep on going about "16 year age gap is problematic is harmful ifs fhat its this etc" and yes it might be harmful, but is it harmful here? Inthis particular story where both the characters, are willingly learning about the other person's experiences and what they went thru in the past or are going thru in the present or what they will experience in the future? Where both are immature and mature at the same? This story is about learning, renavigating your life? I don't see your point applied in this particular story honestly. And this is to both op and you lymie. Hope that helps

i do get most of this argument. while yes, a 40 yr old may be ofc navigating the world still, between a 24 yr old, and a 40 yr old, which one do we think may make more mindful decisions? even if in this story the age gap isn’t harmful in this story, just the fact that it has to be 16 years feels so iffy. the entire story could’ve been the same with like a 5 yr age gap. swear on my life, it did NOT have to be 16 years old to get a point like this across .

It’s not about the point it helps bring out different relationships 5 year age gap is noting lol some of us like bigger age gaps and like to see it in stories we read

And you completely missed my point. The reason for a decade and half year age gap is so they CAN UNDERSTAND THE EXPERIENCES OF EACH OTHER.That is literally the point. UNDERSTANDING. One was born in 20th century amd other was born in 21st, amd thats why they need to understand their differences and overcome that. It is just literally that

still think they could've overcome their differences without being so far apart. 6 yrs would've been fine already.

No it wouldn't have unfortunately but you aren't you aren't ready to realise that and its fine. Have a nice day:)

uhh could you elaborate on that? i think 6yrs would be enough to show the differences between people, maturity, life experience, etc. if the age difference was 24 n 30, that would be pretty different in terms of what each person has gone thru.