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Yes. Tell them. They're acting as if the "god" wasn't completely unaware that this would be labeled as rape, He literally has almost close to no interactions with humans.

Agree. I know there are rape elements in the story, but some people act like that's the ONLY thing about it without even trying to understand the characters. What's funny is that most of the stories they like also have rape elements, whether explicit or not. I was just gonna ignore it but all the noise got to me lol

First, It's fiction. Second, I support Pyeong-hwa's rights and his wrongs

the like to dislike ratio doesn't say much on this site. people just dislike whatever comment they don't vibe with, it has nothing to do with truth

i support his wrongs. i don't support his rights. muzzle him like a dog.

Fiction or real, rape is rape, and that’s just so wrong. I don’t expect much from broken characters like them, but people normalizing rape really pisses me off

Exactly twin

Fictional dubcon effects no one lol. This is an adult manhwa learn to differentiate fiction from reality

u cant be arguing this on mangago man, this site is filled with mostly stupid people

Who says fiction doesn’t affect anyone? Didn’t you read? Earlier, some people even supported Pyeonghwa raping Incheol again. As a psychology student, I can’t underestimate this kind of support. You don’t get it. A lot of people I’ve seen end up taking stuff from movies or games into real life because they started out like this. If we keep acting like ‘it’s okay it's just fiction, oh it's okay it's not real,’ it gets stuck in their subconscious without them realizing

Yeah, I know it’s okay. At least I can share something with you, I guess :(

Adults should know not to take things they see im fiction and project it onto reality. This is like conservatives saying video games or rap cause violence

You always say ‘adults,’ but the people with the most mental issues are adults too. Not all adults are actually mature.

Sounds like a them problem. If a fictional story makes someone want to commit a crime than that person already had violent tendancies

If you say this as a "psychology student", you're failing to understand your lessons. If someone is affected by what they read/see jn a fictional story, it's simply a matter of managing their emotions about it and filtering the content they choose to consume if it doesn't agree with them. It does NOT mean they could ever confuse that what happens on a fictional story faithfully reflects reality, real life morals or that it condones/promotes harmful acts. IF a person thinks that, it's caused by other serious issues in their lives, NOT the fiction they read.

She wont respond to you, people like her dont try and help actual victims, instead they try and shame people who like toxic yaoi on manga pirating sites of all things. Also if she only responds to this comment shes proving my point

i don't agree with them but they're not failing to understand their lessons, what they're saying is true. the idea that fiction doesn't affect reality ignores the evidence of exposure's influences on people's perception of normal and acceptable behavior. people's mind don't operate on an on/off switch for fantasy. it doesn't matter if they know it's wrong, fiction can bleed into reality through a person's mind without them knowing because most of the time that builds up. it's not about the content that disagrees with them, it's about the content that doesn't bother them. if someone is affected by a fictional story in ways which slowly changes how they view things like this person is talking about then it's not a matter of filtering content but of recognizing that the content is harmful in the first place, something that doesn't happen bc of influence and it's why they keep talking abt normalization and subconscious lolz

It's like that grp of ppl who are boasting that they send reports to the police abt anyone who likes problematic/toxic plots in fictional stories, convinced they're saving lives. T_T When instead they flood the reporting system with the equivalent of useless "I like to read mystery vs philosophy", and potentially delay actual victims of real life harm getting the help they neeed. All they have to do is say/discuss how they felt uncomfortable reading it, not become obsessed to prove how wrong of an act it was that they read in a damn manhwa, as if they and every other reader will be smited be gods, governments, online morality police and their moral compass will be shattered unless they condemn it. That's some next level irrational fear they've internalized.

Read a few books, talk to a few reputable psychologists and you'll see what you say is simply not true.

no, tell me why i'm wrong. to my knowledge rn no one is saying fiction directly makes people commit crimes, but acting like fiction has zero psychological influence is even more unrealistic than that and all those psychology books say the same thing. human perception doesn’t work on a simple “just filter your emotions” switch. people absorb things through repetition and fiction is one of the biggest sources of repeated exposure we have. media doesn’t turn someone into a rapist, but it does shape what people become desensitized to, what they joke about, and what they consider “normal,” which is exactly what influences rape culture. i disagree with someone policing reactions to toxic yaoi on mangago of all places just as much as the next person, but acknowledging that media influences attitudes subconsciously is in fact basic psychology. don't tell me that i'm wrong and that i should read a book to find out why when it's coming from someone going against what the books say and then blocking me so i won't respond

"Due to user's setting, you can't reply—" are you deadass

In my comment, I pointed out the people who literally told Pyeonghwa to rape him again. Do you think it’s okay to just let people like that be? I said this as someone who has dealt with rape survivors, would you give me the same answer if you were talking to me in that context?
You should be telling me not to care too deeply about this, not acting like you know my whole life. I’m talking about the topic, but you’re attacking me personally like Crown

You just hate me, Crown, so it's pointless to talk with you.

Hell nah are you okay? Do you not have a real life? Are you really spending your whole life watching other people’s comments? That’s so sad, you really have nothing better to do

LMAO WHO IS THIS?

bro palma my dawg pulled up with a whole paragraph about something irrelevant and then said i'm wrong after i repeated a conclusion backed for decades by media-psychology research, books, and highly cited frameworks in academic journals. and all they can say is “you're wrong. read a few books” in response and then block me

IJBOL You should buy some books and read a bunch of journals so you can write essays that finally satisfy her, and maybe then you’ll be officially considered smart lol

i consider myself a high class dumbass but mind you i read fanfiction only and i can still name at least three books that support my conclusion. it's backed by years of empirical evidence from reputable psychologists so wdym "go talk to one" man im logging off

Girl, who told you not to care about rape?
I said you don't get to judge someone's moral standing from how they talk abt a fictional character and think it's accurate or psychology-validated. Which is what you assumed and did, YOU made it personal, can't you recognize that?
They're not taking abt a real person, some ppl can use fiction as an outlet to safely explore all sorts of behaviors and mindsets, without causing any harm to others or their own mentality, since they can differentiate reality from fiction. Unless they consume ONLY fictional rape kink stories on the daily, as well as listening to and associating with opinions of unrepentant rapists irl, or ppl who promote sexual abuse, there's no inherent harm done!
If you don't understand that and/or it worries you that someone could speak like that even in the realm of fictional content, then ASK THEM if they'd condone or do something like that IRL. That's all u can do, apart from simply not interacting with them if it's something that bothers you.
Scenario 1:
(Person) Damn, rape that fictional guy again please.
(You) Oh so you condone rape! You don't care abt victims! You're a messed up person irl!

Scenario 2
(Person) Damn, rape that fictional guy again please.
(You) It makes me uncomfortable reading that take, cause while I know it doesn't define your character as a person nor do I assume that you condone it, I tend to view these incidents realistically even when depicted in fiction. So, I feel terrible for the fictional guy who went through that and angry at the fictional guy who did it and hope he pays for it and they get away from each other asap.

Do you see the DIFFERENCE??? If you don't, then idk, look into it and stop making it into other people's problem

Wtf r u talking abt? Can't drop the act when being faced with your incorrect assumptions? Damn..
What I'm talking abt is an issue reported recently and involves people whose views and approach toward fiction have many similarities to yours, as seen in this thread. Hence, the relevance. Is that too difficult a connection to make? I'm sorry, I'll dumb it down for you next time.

User Palma is such a loser. How dare she talk shit like that and then block us like we’re the ones at fault

Don't run away you fucking loser.

There’s a lot of interesting statements from you that I’m itching to quote:

1. "I said you don't get to judge someone's moral standing from how they talk abt a fictional character and think it's accurate or psychology-validated."
-> I need to remind you, everyone on this site is a judger, including you and me. We all naturally judge, whether the story makes us happy, sad, angry, whatever. People have the right to say anything, even if it’s the dumbest shit ever.
-> And what do you mean by “judging someone’s moral standing” when they’re literally supporting rape regardless of whether it’s “just how they talk”?

2. "That's all u can do, apart from simply not interacting with them if it's something that bothers you."
-> THAT’S EXACTLY WHY I made my own comment, but you came in and judged me like I’m the problem, when you were the one who crossed my line first. You’re the one making a mess and then blaming me. Don’t pull the victim card. I can talk calmly, like I did with @Meow, but you came in with fire.

3. Scenario 1 and 2
-> I don’t give a fuck about your scenarios if you want to keep that mindset, but here, let me give you a better example:
“Damn, rape that fictional guy again please.”
Read it again until your cracked brain unites.
“Damn, rape Palma again please.”
To be fucking honest, I like toxic yaoi with dark psychological approaches like this. And I was pointing out people who normalize rape, not the story or the characters because I damn well know it’s canon.

4. "Do you see the DIFFERENCE?? If you don't then idk, look into it and stop making it into other people's problem."
-> SHUT IT AND STOP PULLING THE VICTIM CARD. I’m not the one making a problem, you came in and caused a fuss. If you really wanted to talk to me, you should’ve talked calmly instead of arranging a whole essay to force your beliefs on me while saying I’m “failing to learn my lesson.”

That's not how discussing works if you actually want us to exchange thoughts. Don’t excuse the attitude just because you hide behind the “this is an illegal site so everything is okay” logic. That doesn’t magically make MORALLY FUCKED UP things suddenly excusable.

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