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People have grown and unlearn the misogyny & classist view, I would say. I used to read this and think cheating is the worst sin ever but as I continue I realize this story is insane for depicting an illiterate child slave, SA victim, as main villain instead of the men

Have you ever thought that maybe what Rashta did was just her mirroring whatever the nobles did to her and to their slaves or whoever was beneath them?

even if she’s just "mirroring" them, that literally proves the point. mirroring trash behavior still makes u trash. understanding why she copied the nobles doesn't change the fact that she chose to become an abusive tyrant to people weaker than her. having trauma explains your actions, but copying your abusers just makes you an abuser too

Well, she was written that way to deprive her of sympathy from the readers, still insans that a marginal class is written like an absolute super villain when that's everything she know to survive

She wasn't a Child, murder her own son was her doing and no one adviced her to do that.

true, she's written that way.bher backstory is tragic and the world was unfair to her. but acting like EVERYTHING she did was "just for survival" ignores her actual character arc. once she became empress, she wasn't just surviving, she was power tripping. like she bought alot of luxury, demanded total worship, and tortured servants who couldn't fight back. she didn't even want to destroy the oppressive system. she just wanted to be the one holding the whip for once iygwim. and why is it that she's like that? she's written like that bc she's one of the villains in this story. she had a lot of opportunities to make things right but author didnt let her take it and instead do the evil way bc she's written as a villain. we're talking abt her character in the story , but if we involve how unfair it is bc she's written that way, then we cant discuss any villains' actions bc the author "made them do it".

she literally died even before she turned 20!!!! wdym she wasn't a child???? while the rest of the charas are way older than her mind you

She did evil deed, that, we agree. Part of why her character needs more than labeling her as homewrecker, dumb & evil is because the author's intention is clear as day, to paint a marginal class as someone evil against the ruling class if given rights as any other human.
Meanwhile, the nobels in TRE did much worse, for example Henry murdering a whole family who wronged Navier and harming Navier's people extracting magic, or a viscount stabbing a pregnant woman, or Navier befriending a slave owner. We seem to be able to understand that happened for a cause, and able to brush it off, because it was instilled in the story what the nobels did fall under the chategory of norm and root in reasoning, meanwhile a slave need to be a pinnacle of goodness or else she's a trash that needs to die miserably.
It became easy to read the clasism and slave apologia existed within the story after a few chapters. Rastha was expected to be just and clever when she received no education and was a slave her whole live, and when she did the same evil thing as other Noble, people will separate her evilness from them, and further deny her victimhood.
Even her ending is just a fanservice to satisty the reader's need to see the end of a homewrecker slave who dared crossing a queen, meanwhile Sovieshu gets to live in regret but forgiven by Navier, and Henry alongside Ergy barely get a slap on the wrist

well, criticizing the author's class bias is fair. but there's a difference between critiquing author's writing and evaluating rashta as a character. you're arguing about how the story was written (author bias), while some ppl are talking about what the character actually did (in-universe actions). calling rashta evil isn't slave apologia, it’s just acknowledging what she actually did in the text. and pointing out heinrey's or sovieshu's crimes doesn't suddenly make rashta's evil deeds driven by greed and ego go away. it just means the author wrote a world full of morally terrible, powerful people. rashta can be a victim of a classist author/system AND still be an abusive, malicious character in the story. both can be true at once.

think of it like a crime drama where a corrupt CEO and a low-level mobster both commit murder. pointing out that the CEO got away with it because he’s rich doesn't mean the mobster is innocent. one person's systemic immunity doesn't erase another person's victims.

and i agree its unfair for rashta bc of the classist system. and i would've liked it betted if she got exiled and heal instead of getting killed. tho, i also find it fair for readers to hate her. for weekly readers waiting for next updates, she's been an infurating brat who doesnt know her place for 100+ chaps before her tragic backstory dropped, unlike the binge readers who got her story all at once. the hate accumulated naturally because readers were simply reacting to what was written on the page, week after week.

The hatred from the readers is also set up deliberately by the author because the men receive less hatred, written to be forgiven by Navier, while Rashta is the punching bag throghout the story and the author doesnt want to dwelve into the slavery issue delicately.

In TRE, the existence of consort/concubine is a norm, but Rashta get labeled as a homewrecker because readers see things from Navier's POV, thinking Rashta dared "stealing" her husband. But Navier herself would have accepted her if she's a nobility, meaning cheating is not being frowned upon in TRE, so it makes no sense for a concubine to be called a homewrecker in the first place

Many readers also didnt want to understand about slavery and the dread coming with it. Slave is not on the same position with maid or other commoners, they are put in forced to be sit in the samd position as animal, the nobles in TRE consider them expendables, and this included Navier, which drove her to befriend a slave owner.

The author puts Rashta in the worst possible case but they potrayed her action as her sole decision rather than the byproduct of the situation she went through. So when she acted evil, the readers think she's a stupid ungrateful brat hence deserving to be robbed from human rights and grace, further deny her of her victimhood. This is different from other abuse victim in other royal manhwas whom action of a character was shown to be the result of the circumstances they came from.

Personally disliking her is a choice, but refusing to see the system in TRE is dead set on villainize a slave needs to be rechallenged.

CEO & Mob could affect each other but they are mutually exclusive, unlike Rashta & the empire, whom life depended entirely on the fickle affection of the emperor. Navier is critized due to her position as a ruling class who's moral compass lies on whether she was treated well or not by the other party, not on what would benefit her people

It took me years to notice and unlearn the misogynia, classism & slavery apologia the author endorsed in here, because I first read this as a young adult, easily impressioned by the sensational affair trope and brushing off the social setting

i actually agree and think the same with a lot of ur structural critique of the writing. the author definitely set up a classist narrative framework, handled the slavery issue terribly, and gave noble men like sovieshu/heinrey a pass while making rashta the main punching bag. ur right abt the system in TRE being dead set on villainizing a slave, and critiquing the author for that is valid.

where we differ tho is using structural victimhood to absolve individual agency. understanding why the system broke rashta into a bad person doesn't mean we have to pardon her actual crimes like attempting to murder bavier's parents, framing innocent ppl, or assaulting ppl.

a character can be a victim of a deeply horrific, classist system AND still be guilty of doing heinous, evil things to other people who had zero power over her. explaining the environment that created her violence doesn't erase her victims or erase her accountability for those choices. we can challenge the story's classism while still holding rashta morally accountable for her own actions.

i honestly would've been supportive if she directed her revenge and bad deeds strictly at the people who actually wronged her, but that’s not what she did. she targeted helpless people beneath her.

so, overall, author was bad at handling rashta within the classist framework, but as readers evaluating the canon story, we can recognize that rashta has villainous character. byproduct of bad environment, yes, but still doesnt erase her malicious actions. both can be true at once.

nope, left this for 6 months but its still nearing

It was so long ago that I read the novel, idk the end because I couldn’t finish the novel, but revenge is coming soon ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

where did you read the novel??

In Wattpad I don’t know if it’s still available right now sadly uploader stopped uploading new chapters long ago