Lomi's Topics (29)

For real. Because as someone who actually likes the story I understand the flashbacks. I can't say that for other books I dislike though. When you like a story it makes sense because you follow it properly

here you are is really freaking good too also set as a uni romance

sorry it's *Here I Are

HERE U ARE

issoky pal

I already read that

Lost in the cloud

Spinach bouquet

SPINACH BOUQUET!!!

Heesu in class 2 and Emergency! Youth Record Book

Also merry marbling and robber x lover

I think it's for specific feeling: satisfaction. For example some people can't do revenge irl. So when we see this in fiction we feel satisfaction even if it's not our ravage.
Especially when sb played with us and get Uno reverse later. Even if it's not got with your morals, sometimes I can feel satisfaction that they got played the way that did it to you.


Sry if it's hard to understand, English is not my first language ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

he’ll live. he does the same (except the novel bit), to her and prob other girls bc he doesnt wanna commit.

So sad that I can't edit my comment. So there should be "Even if it's not good with your morals" and "Sb can feel satisfaction that they (mean person) got played the way they did it to you"
Sorry ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

Yeah, I’m right there with you. I understand that she believe he played her some her it’s only fair, but the fact that readers know she wasn’t being played and was just lied to is what puzzles me the most about the comment section.

So for her it’s only fair***

Yea, maybe that's why bc in her perspective it's fair. Maybe people feel it the way I feel it. I'm on her side bc I was there. And I didn't know anything from the other side. That's why even if we know his side, I still chooses hers bc I know how it feels. Plus in my opinion it's good thing for his redemption arc ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Sometimes person need to get kicked in the a*s to understand that even if u have sad backstory, you need to choose what person u will be.

Backstory is for understanding not to excuse your behaviour.
This is something that most people don't understand (my opinion, u can disagree with it)

Plus as I said before people want to feel that satisfaction.

Lmfaoo this mf pretends to be all upset and the next second he goes out with other girls he’s a disgusting player he deserves it

This is gonna be so satisfying idgaf lmao

lmao yeahhh

I don't know but for me he deserves it. You can't just lead someone and then act surprised when they get revenge on you. It's not like she's supposed to be a saint

Exactly(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Aside from the other points the others commented. Why are you even here if you don't like it, we're on Chapter 42 already my dude

Maybe it's not that this person doesn't like it but what's to understand the hype bc in their perspective it's different story. Interpretation is the key ╮(￣▽￣)╭
That's good that this person wants to understand something taht is different from their opinion and interpretation
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It's because he was an a** at the beginning. I get that the author is giving him a trauma plot as a "reason" for his shitty behavior at the start. And, even though we can all agree that nothing should excuse what he did to Sujeong and she should just move on and leave him be, we all know they're gonna end up together sooner or later. That doesn't mean he's going to get her the easy way. Yeah, what Sujeong is doing now is morally wrong but oh, how satisfying it would be when he tastes his own medicine. I just hope he grovels at lot before Sujeong gets back with him fr and not the other way around. I'm dreading the possibility that Sujeong would feel extremely guilty and does the groveling instead when he finds out

Yea I think it's most likely to be the groveling than anger unfortunately but even... Let's see how autor will write it. Hope it's gonna be good (=・ω・=)

How was he an ass at the begining? I feel like we read two different beginnings

Yeah? The player who clearly said to the girls he spoke to that all he was interested in was friendship and hung out with them and only remained himself without imitating any romantic gestures? I’m sure it’s his fault the girls were hoping for more lol.

The nuance here is he didn’t lead her on. He was genuinely feeling the relationship and genuinely reciprocating her feelings. Then out of absolutely nowhere, he blindsided her by telling her he never intended for them to date. He led her to believe that he in fact led her on, but as readers, we know he wasn’t playing. We had his POV. We know that shxt was real. It was as weird and out of the blue for her as it was for the rest of us because we know he liked her too. We only heard his POV later, about how he somehow thought he couldn’t make her wait for him and she wouldn’t wait for him anyway because no one ever stays (that wad his trauma talking) and he’d get in touch back with her later. Those are the facts. Yet if I did nothing but read the comment section without reading the story, I’d actually believe the ML was shown to play in her face from the beginning when that’s not the case. It’s so odd to me.

Well that's why I'm reading first, then go to comments
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We know he wasn't playing with her but she doesn't. And if you put yourself in her shoes you feel it harder (especially if you had similar experience).
That's why even knowing he was genuinely trying to have good relationships (knowing his trauma) it still hurts.
Even with knowledge of his trauma it hurts. Hurts bc he can do better. He knows better but still choose to go with trauma response. He could choose different way before as we see it now. But he didn't, and this hurts.
As I said, sad backstory is for understanding the way of thinking of this person, not to excuse their behaviour

Yes he was. He flirted with her, treated her as a conquest, led her to believe he was genuine and then dumped her the moment he realized he was starting to really do like her. Why? Because he was a coward, that's why.

And you're whole excuse that we as readers know how he really feels is not applicable to the story. Sujeong definitely does NOT know how he really feels. You know why? Because instead of really sitting her down and telling her how he feels and why he did what he did, he's trying to get her back with his usual tactics. Tactics that he used on Sujeong the first time which resulted on him leaving her hurt and hanging.

So how was Sujeong supposed to know he genuinely does like her fr this time? She can't can't read his mind. So unless he mans up and tell her how he feels and how sorry he is that he hurt her before then she really wouldn't find out on her own because he had already broken her trust so now everything he does will only come across as suspicious to her, even if his intent is genuine this time around.

He do that to a bunch of people though. Building relationships and ditching them. Literally what he had in mind when he hung out with her this whole time. Sure he hasn't realized he actually won't. But that's only because he likes her now, to all the other women he didn't like, he def became close with them and then decided he just didn't want to play along anymore. What FL is doing is a taste of his own medicine.

1. No he wasn’t. Heck, I just went back to see if I’d erased the thing from my mind because of how puzzling this is. How do you know he was treating her like a conquest? Actually, what does that mean to you?

2. Everything we saw in those first chapters was him taking an interest in her. He treated her like you treat anyone you’re getting to know for the first time, and really gave into her as the interest grew. And those two things can be true at once: he had feelings for her and he was a coward about them. One doesn’t negate the other.

3. I completely understand her approach and where she’s coming from and why. I’m not mad at it. He does need to understand what he did wrong. She’s doing to him what she believes he did to her. My gripe isn’t with her or him. The only reason why I’m even making comments under this thread is because I don’t understand why readers pretend they’re her and don’t know what his POV is. I am actually trying to see if we understood the story differently because that’s what that feels like when I read some of these comments. I feel like I’m reading something else entirely.

Yeah, I understand the putting yourself in her shoes part. That’s fine. I’m just confused when I see comments with people pretending he played her and left when we all know he cared, got scared, broke her heart and left.

You don’t know that he does this for a fact. Every relationship we’ve seen him build, he made it clear he was on friendly terms. Hes not a grown adult trying to build a relationship with a woman to see if they have a future. Hes college kid getting to know people who show interest in him. Tricky thing is, the girls talking to him are hoping for more than he’s offering. Prime example is that girl who looks like the FL. He talked to her because she reminded her of the FL, and clearly friendzoned her. The fact that she was hoping for more isn’t something you put on him. It’s on her because she didn’t take his words for it. He didn’t even hint at wanting something more in the way he did with the FL before the airport scene. He handled those relationships differently.

She didn't build a relationship with him. She's just hanging out with him

Thats what all players say and then go flirt with those same girls and give them false hope of a relationship ever happening, plus he literally hung out with the girl who looked like fl, knowing she had a crush on him. Hes NOT the victim here, just the consequences of his own actions

So I also went back and his POV on chapter 17 said it all. He said at first he just found her interesting because of how awkward she is. He kept poking her and doing all these sweet stuff because he found her reactions amusing and he wondered how far he could illicit these reactions. He found her falling for him FUNNY wtf. But then it wasn't fun anymore because he started to really enjoy her company. The early boarding was just an easy excuse for him to dump her. He's only gone for 4 months not 4 years so it's hard to find him sparing her from the wait that believable. He even had the audacity to feel smug when she contacted him first. Saying of course she still has feelings for her because who could resist his handsome face? (Even his crewmate found him a prick)

Also it wasn't explicitly stated he thought of her as a conquest but there were signs, both subtle and obvious. Heck you don't flirt with other girls when you have genuine feelings for another. Those smug smirks every time Sujeong reached out first, initiating skinship, going on dates then being lukewarm or flatly ghosting her for days, those are dead giveaways that he wasn't really that seriously into her than what he was showing her. He didn't even fully realized he really did like her for real until after he went back and Sujeong started her revenge plot. It was all a game for him up until that point.

Finally, you cannot put out a story and expect readers not to feel anything about it. The point of fictional stories is to make the readers feel and relate to it. If a story feels flat to everyone then you shouldn't be an author. And also, not everyone relates to things the same. Different experiences results to various levels of how people empathizes. So of course there would be strong reactions especially when the people reading had some experiences like this. Good for you if you cannot relate but don't expect everyone else to see it the way you do.

Uh… no. All he does is literally talk back to them. He doesn’t seek or ask them out either. There’s a difference between flirting and having good banter. That’s often where lines are blurred for people. Depending on how the girls he spoke to would respond, the ML’s attitude changes. FL was much more guarded with him and that drew him to her. Then he went to a group hang and the girl who looked like the FL wasn’t as guarded, which is why their conversation didn’t go far before he left the group hang. The next time he met the girl who looked like the FL, he literally talked about her cat, had flashbacks of the FL during that convo and left. He basically established a friendship with her. She never told him she liked him and he never gave her false hope that he was anything more than nice to her.

Wha he is though, is a victim of his own making,

1. See, this is where we grasped things from a different lense. What I understood from his POV in chapter 17 is he loved being around her because he found her entertaining and at one point, it wasn’t about how entertaining she was anymore because he developed feelings for her. So what was funny/fun about her responses were no longer the reason why he wanted to hang out with her. I’m the type of person who won’t really reciprocate a conversation if the person I’m talking to bores me. Maybe that’s why to me there isn’t anything wrong with him poking at her because he enjoys seeing different facets of her. If that’s something you have a problem with ,that’s fair. It’s just a question of preference. Also, I didn’t get the sense that he didn’t enjoy her company before his feelings developed; it was clear during their scenes and from what he said in chapter 17 that he kept talking to her BECAUSE he enjoyed her company. I’m not sure how the opposite would make sense.

2. Yes, the early boarding was an excuse for him to drop her. As we said, he was cowardly. And he also doesn’t realize how fkd up what he did was, which is why in the beginning I was irritated with her reaching out to him first until I realized what her end goal was. I just figured it would take a long time for him to even grasp how wrong he did her from that point on. He’s arrogant, I’m not denying it.

3. He wasn’t flirting with other girls when he developed feelings for her. I feel like good banter and flirting are now becoming one and the same, especially in a college setting . Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t see I’ve seen him behave with any of the girls he spoke to in the same manner he behaved with the FL.

4. I already said my peace about how strange other readers’ perception were to me because I felt like we were reading the story from different ends and not grasping the same facts so I won’t expand on that more. #1 clearly showed me how differently we viewed his POV anyway. I’m good, thanks for the cordial back and forth.

Oh it was all okay. I was just trying to explain the sides of those who felt for Sujeong in the comments. I, for one, spotted all the ML's red flags for what they were at the beginning. Maybe because I had experienced what Sujeong went through that's why I was one of those who felt strongly for her.

Great for you for seeing them in a positive light though. Keep up with the optimisim. We really need it with how the world is turning out these days.

If you really ask for my opinion though, if this was irl, this relationship would never work. Not when they have both deceived and hurt each other. Once trust is broken its really, really hard to build it back up. But since its fiction and we are guaranteed a happy ending, I still do hope they both heal themselves before they really end up together.

Exactly

She’s no better than him if she acts like this

I do really like the story, I was just asking about the comments people are leaving

It's the worst when people say stuff like that, it sounds like the people who genuinely side with Batman's 'philosophy' "If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remain the same"--ahh type of bs. Like okay, but if I got rid of a bunch of killers we'd definitely have a lot less of 'em.

And FL giving ML a taste of his own medicine after he did it to her, absolutely still makes her way better than him who did it unprompted, like hello? duh.

I think this is where our understanding differs. He wasn’t playing her. He was interested in her, developed feelings for her, then their relationship deepened to the point where it would have made sense for them to make it official in that airport scene. Instead, he got scared of his own feelings and cowardly pretended it was never that serious for him, thus breaking her heart. Meanwhile she’s playing him, plain and simple. She believes what she’s doing is retribution of equal measure because he led her to believe he played her in the first place, but we all know he didn’t. He just lied about it. So sure, he’s a victim of his own making, but what he did wasn’t actually worse. They’re both wrong. I’m just not mad at what she’s doing because it makes sense from her POV.

Okay then by your logic, just as long as someone "gets scared of their own feelings", any action afterwards is not considered selfish? They can outright lie to someone, and even recite them a rehearsed script they've implicatively already used on others to dump them before, and it's not considered playing. With this logic, I guess that's why so many ppl can get away with so much bs.

"Nah baby I wasn't playing with you, I was just afraid of my own feelings, so I pretended we weren't anything and low-key gaslighted you were imagining the relationship and I disappeared for 3-5 months without really explaining my internship to you even though I have your number and so much time to text you a good explanation and was actually planning to never contact you again because I'm a selfish bastard who has never really cared about women's feelings since they're all just so easy to me"

… you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth. Not sure where the term selfish comes from. Never been more confused in my life.

A relationship isn’t necessarily romantic

In my opinion she is no better than him if she does that, it’s true that she doesn’t know the actual reason he acted that way but just because people don’t treat you right it doesn’t mean it’s ok to do the same

No he DID flirt, idk if ur blind or dense or something cuz that girl he simply established a friendship with literally blushes around him all the time, just because she doesn’t say it you should still be able to tell if you have common sense and also thats literally what players do, they “talk” to girls who are clearly interested in them

It’s called having good banter. He didn’t pursue her beyond that conversation. He spoke to her, left, then met her coincidentally a second time without having so much as a real conversation with her. They’ve been friendly since. You know when it was obvious she was hoping for more? The third time they spoke and he ended that conversation by shutting that shxt down. At no point did he play with that girl, but sure, because he’s talking to a blushing girl, he’s automatically playing her. It’s almost as if you’re saying he can’t have female friends on the off chance they’ll be interested in him, and if they are then what? He’s a bad guy because he continued speaking to her despite the fact that she didn’t articulate her interest? So ridiculous.

Oh my god are you serious? Its fucking weird to be friendly with the girl who looks like your crush, ask her questions that you actually want to know about your crush, touching her “accidentally and then playing it cool. When a girl blushes around a guy im pretty sure it means they’re into them? And the guy being handsome, used to the situation and pretty smart would know they’re into them. Also i suggest you go back to the start and read this manga again because u clearly don’t wtf ur talking about. This guy obviously has a lot of female friends, but author make it clear at the beginning that he’s smart enough to know when someone is interested in him and STILL talks to them, smiles at them and accidentally touches them, knowing damn well that person is into him, he’s a bad guy because he gives the impression that he’s also interested in those girls.he literally even said that he only plays around a few chapters ago i dunno how u didn’t see rhat.

No, I’m clear on what I’m reading and this is now tiresome and long for no reason. Let’s stop here.

Im not sure about that but okay

'Kay makes sense you wouldn't get it anyway. Context clues doesn't seem to be your strong suit :P

But what youre getting at is a romantic one, that's why you hate her using him as a prototype and not catching feelings like he is ..although all she did was let him kiss her, which in my perspective is what people who are in a situationship can do too.Neither one of them defined their "relationship" so im curious why you think she shouldnt treat him the way she was treating him

We, as readers, know why he was acting that way, the only way it would be fair to villainize him was if we only had her POV. Either way even if he didn’t act right cause obviously from her POV he seems like a player, I still don’t think it’s ok for her to act that way cause it just puts her on his level, if not worse. It’s not ok to build a relationship of any kind just for a novel and then dump them and I don’t get why readers cheer her for doing that especially knowing he had his reasons to why he did what he did

You're complicating things tho she's not dating him to dump him. I find it hard to understand why are you justifying his bahaviour eventhough as readers like you said we also know that he never said he liked her nor confessed how he feels towards in any ways.I personally dont like his fuckboy bahviour

I mean you can still think he is pretty and hate him. I have read stories with awful characters that you can't help but feel a deep hatred for and yet are drop dead gorgeous lol it's okay to hate a character while also admiring the art/their looks.