I really really love this manhwa, but I also really dislike when all roads lead to having kids.. Why can't there be a BL where pregnancy is possible but they still choose not to.. Like Of course there are many but it's also a bit sad and frustrating that kids are seen as the happy end so much.. Kids are cute and sweet but I want to see a couple be happy just by themselves and I really wished this one here would be that
Idk where you came from but theres a lot of that already. Example: almost every omegaverse yaoi manga doest have kids. But guess what, it never really was the main point.
Why would they brought that up? That is waste of panelling. Usually just skip to the ending. Idk what beef you have with representation of 'yaoi not having kids while they can' but theres literally a lot and storyboard wise that doesnt make sense.
Yaoi with kids is already few enough, and if you dont want one theres literally THOUSANDS of them. Or better yet; read every yaoi other than this. youve got it
I wasn't hating. No need to be aggressive.. I just don't like the sentiment that ultimate happiness = kids. In many non omegaverse yaoi/bl there's always the notion of "are you really okay with now having kids?". I dislike viewing it as an essential part of the course of a relationship. That is all. Be it omegaverse bl or any other bl.
So I saw ur comment and I relate smm as a person who doesn't like and doesn't want kids and I saw the reply to ur comment and it's literally not true cuz every omegaverse yaoi has a kid at the end, but to answer ur "question" I think it's because many people comment on the official sites or authors twitter or insta that they want them to have a kid only cuz it's cute and they ship the mc and ml, not thinking about this aspect that all road lead to kids but they just gently want to see them so I think even if the author never wanted them to have a kid, they'll add it so it's more "hyped"
Omg thank you so much I feel so validated because same!! I don't want kids either and I live live looove bl and it's like my safe haven. I don't mind kids and think they're cute often in bl, but like I just want to see the romantic love, not family life.. Be more obsessed with each other and lovey dovey pleaaaase
i see ur point but i dont see how it affects the story they have been a couple since season 1 and have had like 40 chapters of lovey dovey. i'm not gonna lie and say omegaverse yaoi don't have kids often bc they do but let's be real kids are one of the main point of omegaverse so maybe u should stop reading omegaverse. Also not being rude but being gay doesn't mean you don't want kids so it's not a safe haven many gay couples do adopt.
No, I didn't mean that bl is a safe haven BECAUSE of the lack of kids. I love straight roms as well, I just like bl more and it's my safe comfort thing. I simply meant that BECAUSE it's a preferred media for me I like it more when it's without kids. that's all. I never implied that gay couples don't have kids so please don't twist my words. I also disagree with the notion that omegaverse is for pregnancy reasons, as the pheromones and need and desire are amplified in omegaverse, similarly to guides and espers stories. At the end of the day it's not so dramatic. It's just my preference, and my dislike of the general consensus of kids = final happy end. Nothing more.
I get what you mean. It's also why I like alpha x alpha bc even tho they can't have a kid, they still love each other and don't feel pressured to have a baby. "Define the relationship" for example. Babies and a little family is cute ofc, but it's also nice when having the ability to have kids in the story, the couple is happy with it just being them 2.
Im not trying to be aggressive. But if you are looking for no kids bl, dont read omegaverse. Bcs thats literally the point of omegaverse. And there is a lot im not lying. I can name 4 rn bcs i remember it:
Kouguu no omega
Omega wa pink no yume no miru
Sayonara alpha
Totsugimasen kara
Keynote: search for a MANGA omegaverse as i stated. Not manhwa
Anyway my point: if you wanna read something with representation of homosexual irl like with no kids, dont look at omegaverse and hoping it will give you that, it wont. But i do have one title thay discuss this i just forgot the name.. they are gay couple in japan that grow old together..
Then you need to see it in different light, not all ppl think the same way you do. Even irl many ppl who hated kids & were against having kid so much, the moment they met their destined one & loving them so much, they started thinking of having child of their own.
That aside, the biggest factor might be knowing many readers would love to see pregnancy & kids in BLs encourage authors to make it happen
Well one of mechanical reason omegaverse in BL existed was for defying the rl biological impossibility & facilitating reproduction between same primary sex.... while I'm agree it's also to amplify the emotional & physical intimacy, turning it to be more primal & instinct-driven.
Also I've read BL for like 13 years, and most of works within this genre didn't have kids nor ever implied they wanted to have kids despite it being possible, just wanting to be the two of them for the rest of their life. Idk I got the impression you just find it disappointing to see this Paws & Claws BL with both leads being likeable & cutesy lovey dovey then turned out didn't cater to your preference of not having kids, you can just always read other titles tho....
I don't agree that the sole purpose of omegaverse is for pregnancy, I think it's also for the amplification of the yearning and desire, similarly to hunterverse. My main comment wasn't also specifically about this, really. It's simply my frustration with the whole kids = happy message. That aside, thanks for the recs lol, I will check those out.
I know that the majority of BL is with no pregnancy, but even there the question of "are you really ok with not having kids" pops up a lot. My main message wasn't specifically about the genre or this manhwa, it really is just about the notion of kids = happy that I dislike. That's all. I sinply disagree with seeing kids as the end goal of achieving happiness. For some that is the case, for others that isn't, in both cases it's fine. But the general consensus is what I dislike.
Even in most of BL I read with pregnancy is possible (be it omegaverse, scifi, fantasy, etc), the said question didn't pop up that much. Maybe you just happened to oftenly stumbled upon ones with it. In my case that wasn't it.
Yeah but you gotta understand that human is diverse & what you're disagreeing is what others may see as happiness. The author might just loved the idea of having kids is so much romantic like the idea of both leads having the fruit born from their overflowing love. I recalled you wished if this manhwa would fit to your preference since they gonna have child & you weren't that happy abt it.
Since authors make BL for a living, aside from making story based from their very ideas, ofc they need to cater to paid readerships' preferences, while in this case many of them would pay for reading omegaverse with child. Like- even in omegaverse with no mention of having child at all, even the subtlest hint, readers are keep asking for it.
Guys, what was up with the fight starting side 16? Im so confused on what happened. Are the translations bad or am I just dumb?? I see why they fought but the dialog is so confusing I don't get what is being referred to and who is mad at whom etc. wagwan
This translation is by ai probably that's why
Bro that makes so mcuh semse Istg I thought Im losing braincells reading it I was so confused
I hate this. why did it have to be this way why. What I hate more is that they fucked other people in the year they were separated. That's the fucking worst. I hate time skips SO FUCKING MUCH. Maybe they are lying and didn't fuck anyone. maybe maybr maybe
i’m sure they didn’t fuck anyone else. they’re just ragebaiting each other look at these idiots omfgomfgomg JUST TALK ISTG
bro i swearrr like yujin literally HUGGED HUNTER THE SECOND HE SAW HIM. HOW CAN THEY SAY NO AFFECTION AND NO LONGING. TALKKKKKK. I am glad though that they probably didn't do it eith anyone else, at least we stay true to loyalty
Guys can someone just tell me why he ran away? Im considering reading this but angsy really really isn't for me. I can tolerate it if it isn't like a billion chapters long, but I hate when theybfight
He feels guilty Yujin's father once kidnapped Hunter, Yujin thought Hunter didn't know, but it turns out Hunter was just pretending not to know. Yujin finally said to Hunter, "Why didn't you tell me?" Yujin's position there is that she is traumatized by his father too. CMIIW
Guys I watched the kbl drama and lived it, but now I was skimming through the end of thr manhwa and like do they onpy get together at the end?? In one of the last chapters the mc wants tontypr a message of "we are past sex friends" or something, do they really only get together at the end?? And in another chapter the ML talks about moving countries and that they will only stay together until then, what's that about?? I thought thid is a fluff manhwa innocent cute and whatever but are they deparatin at the end after bring together for like twonchapters??? Also from what I've seen there aren't many romantic moments, or was it me focusing on the bad? Like I feel like they fight most of the time or is this just my negativity?
They end up together, they move to the US and marry by the end of the story. They have so many cute moments in the side stories.
Bro I am too dumb for this I mean I never even read this I just joined the train like 25 chapters ago and I only skim through to see moments of them together so I genuinely have no idea what thr whole talk about dying is. I assume Amber regaining his memories but wdym Tennessee imagined him dead the whole time Im so comfused with all bruh
Edit: any explanations for the meaning of ambers death and or the last few panels are greatly appreciated, i cant twll when theg are talking figuratively and when literally lol
Tennessee imagines amber and people he cares about dying to comfort himself kinda, it's a defense mechanism to mourn someone while alive to prepare yourself for their or your death bc you know you wouldn't handle it if it did eventually happen so you do it over a long period and in case smth happens you're prepared (ofc that's not healthy don't do it )
Tennessee imagines people he cares about (especially amber) dead bc it's comforting, it's his defense mechanism. if he imagine them dead over time it soften the blow of their actual death like what happened with his friends rick and the other woman two chapters ago . so basically him imagining amber dead is bc he's scared of losing him . as for amber he's so obsessed with Tennessee that he wants to kill him to prevent him from possibly leaving him that was talked about before. and now amber is scared of " death " , since he lost his memories he considered himself someone different than the old amber . so to him regaining his memories is dying bc he'll be "another person"
not your fault for not understanding btw the translation is so shitty i only got it bc I'm so deep into psychology and have masters degree in English lolol
Thank you so much it makes so much more sense I only skimmed through this manhwa so like I had no idea wth theh on about this chapter cuz it felt like Amber already regained his memories at the end and also not since he kept talking about himself dying, but also how he's so obsessed with Tennessee so I was hella confused. I assumed the transition Tennessee talked about was Amber regaining his memories but ye, the translations are genuinely so confusing
you're welcome glad i was able to help , the plot is genuinely amazing I'll definitely reread it once the officials are out lol
Can someone tell me how long they are separated for? My heart is so not good with angst, but the comments keep praising this story so I might give it a go if the angst isn't too angsty and the separation isn't too many chapters. Thanks!
It’s really short! Like 3-4 chapters? I was hoping it wouldn’t be strung out either so I’m happy with how cute the ending turned out to be <3
Thank you so much (づ￣ ³￣)づ I looked at the last few chapters where they were a bit of a mess and I was like we are doomed it's probably been years but you reassured me!!
I only checked the last few episodes but wtf I already am horrified of the upcoming chapters. I AM SO SO SCARED BRUH. SAHAN WILL BLAME HIMSELF, AND POSSIBLY ML TOO SINCE ML ASKED HIM NOT TO GO. I DONT WANT TO SEE THE FIGHT OR THE SELF HATE. BRO THIS IS SO DEEP WTFFFF
does anyone have the authors sns or something? I am a bit worried because we were getting regular updates and now nothing.
acording to their twitter they had to take a break for health and schedule reason and will be back on august 17
Thank you! This is reassuring :)
Guys genuine question but is there any reason for censoring the kisses?
It's from china and depicts school aged kids.
Idk if it's an actual law but it is super common for chinese authors to censor kisses/mpreg stomachs/hugs even sometime.
Ohhh that makes sense. So much lost beauty because of the ban in china what a shame
China censors everything
Not nessecarily
They have their own decency laws and we have our own, are ones more strict than others? No idea i don't know how ot read chinese censorship laws
Saying x people censor everything sounds kinda racist...
Wasn't even making it racist but ok
Not intentionally sure i was just saying it can come off like that TT