Wolfiara's Topics (4)

red, ml's a bitch for most of season 1 & he also rapes the mc. though... had the rape not happened, I would've called him a complex, decently-written character and classified him as a yellow flag actually

Ok, thanks for answering. Now next question if you would still like to respond to me do you recommend it ?
(I did read roses and champagne and finished it)

short answer: yeah. long answer: if u liked roses and champagne I'm sure you'll like this. you see, I usually drop manhwas if they have unnecessary rape scenes (and here it was REALLY unnecessary), but I liked the characters (the main character especially), the art, the overall plot & dynamics enough to continue. actually, had the rape not been there this would've been one of my favourites probably. since you were okay w roses and champagne, though, where caesar was basically a black flag, this is much tamer & the backstory is pretty nicely developed imo !

Wow, thank you! okay so i think i will read thank you again (also you answered really fast so again thank you ^^) (Also "again" yeah the unnecessary rape is annoying even more so when the rest of the story and the character are so good)

i classify it as dub-con cause the first ‘sex’ scene is def assault, but later on we see that the guy who was assaulted can physically overpower the other guy if he actually doesn’t want to continue (therefore we can assume he wanted it in the first scene)

i can see where you're coming from, but that's an incorrect assumption to make. even if the victim is physically stronger, and has the ability to overpower the perpetrator, when going through something like sexual assault, it is a common trauma response to freeze up and/or not have the power to fight back, even if the ability is still present. not always, but it does happen many times. and ik u probably didnt mean it this way, but this logic is often used to downplay the trauma of male rape survivors, or physically stronger victims who have gone through something so traumatic. "they couldve easily fought back, yet they didnt, so they actually secretly wanted it". if a person says no, that's it. u don't have to physically fight back to show that u don't want it. in this particular scene, yw even tries to run away. he also clearly says no multiple times. hence, it's clearly non con. though, had he verbally not said no or stop, and the overall vibe had been ambiguous, we could have labelled it as dub con. sorry for such a long rant, I hope this made sense though^^

yeah makes sense for real life, i’m just saying it from a purely fictional perspective and what I’m assuming the authors intentions were (and what i want to think)

he's suspicious fr but i hope not he's too pretty to do that shit

They both are pronounced the same, it's just tat the Korean translation is differing.

ho ! ok
Thank you