After Misumi's question in the last panel,it is something to think about.I haven't read this in timee so I'm relying on my memories.
Anyways,I think Shima just leans too much into the 'nice guy' schick,trying to please everyone and 'do favours' for them,even when unprompted.An example of this is when he decided to join Mika's group in class (I think it was a school trip or something?I dunno.It wasn't so long after she confessed I think) and Mika got annoyed.At first I didn't understand,wouldn't you want to be with your crush?But then I realised how mean that really is.Why deliberately hang out with someone who has a crush on you but you don't feel the same way?Shima probably did this to 'do Mika a favour',classic leading on.I don't think it was done with bad intentions though,just wanting to satisfy Mika's desires half-heartedly due to assumptions...
Yasaka is similar but the leading on is also due to wanting attention,she's more brazen about it and is self aware of the damage being done.Well,reading this book showed me that profiling someone as one-dimensional,either a victim or perpetrator,is inaccurate and harmful-I remember thinking Mika would be your average shoujou love rival-and so I'll give Yasaka some time to grow.It'd be nice to explore the parallels between her and Shima.
If I remember correctly he asked to join Mika's group so he wouldn't be alone with a bunch of girls who had a crush on him in another group. I don't think he was thinking about how Mika would feel about it at all which is yes part of his issue; he might be polite but he lacks consideration. I remember there was a panel in a different part of the story where Mukai criticized his lack of consideration and Shima's internal monologue was something like "Wouldn't it be self-centred to think I could accurately assume how someone else is feeling?" Anyways I agree, I like how the author is drawing parallels here.
If I remember correctly he asked to join Mika's group so he wouldn't be alone with a bunch of girls who had a crush on him in another group. I don't think he was thinking about how Mika would feel about it at a... annasnowpea
Ohh alright my bad I forgot about that.But yeah I agree,he lacks consideration.I mean I do agree with his monologue but at the same time....I dunno.If I was in Shima's shoes I wouldn't keep reminding myself how many girls crush on me lest I get arrogant and treat every girl like they're my fans.But what Shima is doing....What is he doing?Acting oblivious to the attention so he doesn't get arrogant like I previously mentioned?I dunno...I think I should reread XD.How would you describe Shima's personality?
I think Shima has a tendency to be “considerate” of people by acting the role of a friendly popular guy that people expect. But he doesn’t actually want to get close to others and, therefore, can be inconsiderate of how they’re feeling. TBH, from the memories of him being approached for his look plus his messy family situation, it’s very understandable that he would develop that tendency to protect himself.
Maybe you think he’s leaning too much into the “nice guy” image because we see the story from his friends’ POV, and you feel their frustration at his inability to be truly sincere with himself and others?
Ohh alright my bad I forgot about that.But yeah I agree,he lacks consideration.I mean I do agree with his monologue but at the same time....I dunno.If I was in Shima's shoes I wouldn't keep reminding myself how... gyarr11
Hmm now that you're asking me, and after reading Haildoitsu's comment, I have more empathy for Shima and Yasaka; they're both conventionally attractive so people want to date them to boost their own egos and don't like them for who they really are. Yasaka recognizes this and at least gets something out of it: attention. Shima doesn't want the burden of dealing with their feelings so he protects himself by keeping a distance while remaining friendly.
Where I do think he lacks consideration was how he treated Mitsumi, like how he gave her hand lotion on Christmas and admitted himself he knew it might be misinterpreted as romantic, but he did it anyway to feel good. But ig its less cruel now knowing he was just confused about his feelings.
I think Shima has a tendency to be “considerate” of people by acting the role of a friendly popular guy that people expect. But he doesn’t actually want to get close to others and, therefore, can be incon... Haildoitsu
Hm yeah I do understand them,not getting a clear grasp of his personality,and if he's just a husk of himself performing the friendly popular guy act because he had to please people his whole life. Like you said,its reasonable that he likes to please people like that. I just when we,as a culture, put on acts and filter our speech to seem more 'nice' and such,and become people pleasers,which I see Shima earning this title.Its cus it usually leads to resentment or misunderstandings,which would've been avoided if you just allow people's stereotype of you to be broken and say how you feel (Easier said than done!). Honestly,I'm half projecting onto Shima myself ( ̄∇ ̄") whilst the other half of me is just mystified at people like Shima who seem too agreeable, nice and friendly almost all the time-like do I know you really?
The characters have already reached their overall developments so ending isn't too bad.Ofc I wanna keep on seeing Haejoon and Euyung n everybody but good stories gotta finish.
Eunyung standing up,being taller than his dad really demonstrates his authority now.If he went the destructive route of assaulting his dad for revenge he could do so,but hopefully Eunyung is mature enough not to resort to violence.
It sure is annoying when people assume you'll be a lowlife just like them,finding comfort thst you aren't the only one wasting your life. I wonder how the next chapter will be,I predict Dongbum will get very upset and violent even
After Misumi's question in the last panel,it is something to think about.I haven't read this in timee so I'm relying on my memories.
Anyways,I think Shima just leans too much into the 'nice guy' schick,trying to please everyone and 'do favours' for them,even when unprompted.An example of this is when he decided to join Mika's group in class (I think it was a school trip or something?I dunno.It wasn't so long after she confessed I think) and Mika got annoyed.At first I didn't understand,wouldn't you want to be with your crush?But then I realised how mean that really is.Why deliberately hang out with someone who has a crush on you but you don't feel the same way?Shima probably did this to 'do Mika a favour',classic leading on.I don't think it was done with bad intentions though,just wanting to satisfy Mika's desires half-heartedly due to assumptions...
Yasaka is similar but the leading on is also due to wanting attention,she's more brazen about it and is self aware of the damage being done.Well,reading this book showed me that profiling someone as one-dimensional,either a victim or perpetrator,is inaccurate and harmful-I remember thinking Mika would be your average shoujou love rival-and so I'll give Yasaka some time to grow.It'd be nice to explore the parallels between her and Shima.
If I remember correctly he asked to join Mika's group so he wouldn't be alone with a bunch of girls who had a crush on him in another group. I don't think he was thinking about how Mika would feel about it at all which is yes part of his issue; he might be polite but he lacks consideration. I remember there was a panel in a different part of the story where Mukai criticized his lack of consideration and Shima's internal monologue was something like "Wouldn't it be self-centred to think I could accurately assume how someone else is feeling?" Anyways I agree, I like how the author is drawing parallels here.
Ohh alright my bad I forgot about that.But yeah I agree,he lacks consideration.I mean I do agree with his monologue but at the same time....I dunno.If I was in Shima's shoes I wouldn't keep reminding myself how many girls crush on me lest I get arrogant and treat every girl like they're my fans.But what Shima is doing....What is he doing?Acting oblivious to the attention so he doesn't get arrogant like I previously mentioned?I dunno...I think I should reread XD.How would you describe Shima's personality?
I think Shima has a tendency to be “considerate” of people by acting the role of a friendly popular guy that people expect. But he doesn’t actually want to get close to others and, therefore, can be inconsiderate of how they’re feeling. TBH, from the memories of him being approached for his look plus his messy family situation, it’s very understandable that he would develop that tendency to protect himself.
Maybe you think he’s leaning too much into the “nice guy” image because we see the story from his friends’ POV, and you feel their frustration at his inability to be truly sincere with himself and others?
Hmm now that you're asking me, and after reading Haildoitsu's comment, I have more empathy for Shima and Yasaka; they're both conventionally attractive so people want to date them to boost their own egos and don't like them for who they really are. Yasaka recognizes this and at least gets something out of it: attention. Shima doesn't want the burden of dealing with their feelings so he protects himself by keeping a distance while remaining friendly.
Where I do think he lacks consideration was how he treated Mitsumi, like how he gave her hand lotion on Christmas and admitted himself he knew it might be misinterpreted as romantic, but he did it anyway to feel good. But ig its less cruel now knowing he was just confused about his feelings.
Hm yeah I do understand them,not getting a clear grasp of his personality,and if he's just a husk of himself performing the friendly popular guy act because he had to please people his whole life.
Like you said,its reasonable that he likes to please people like that.
I just when we,as a culture, put on acts and filter our speech to seem more 'nice' and such,and become people pleasers,which I see Shima earning this title.Its cus it usually leads to resentment or misunderstandings,which would've been avoided if you just allow people's stereotype of you to be broken and say how you feel (Easier said than done!).
Honestly,I'm half projecting onto Shima myself ( ̄∇ ̄") whilst the other half of me is just mystified at people like Shima who seem too agreeable, nice and friendly almost all the time-like do I know you really?