I also thinks this ending was best for this story. Jjk will treat Dan right from now on and very preciously. they will sort out misunderstandings faster next time. This is what dating phase of ambiguous endings couples is like and we can judge JJK only after the following days in their relationship is revealed. But it's not hard to imagine .
The ppl who are not fond of ambiguous endings usually find the 'and they lived Happy ever after' fake and wants a story till the Protagonists grow old and pass away. But I'm satisfied with this much.
Me personally think it was not rushed.
1. In the way past even before depression, Dan was 'handled' lovingly, (just kisses nothing much but i felt it was to make the foreplay lessen the dislike Dan felt for the sex with his personal emotions, which paid off cause Dan was actually liking the sex later) so author made Jjk doing foreplay now, so it's not hard to guess Jjk was introduced to humanity and will not repeat his old ways after they start dating.
2. The whole 'Dan can't live alone after his grandmother' narrative is easily solved with him having colleagues and friends now. Albeit it will take time to replace one Emotional support for another, but it won't be a big issue
3. There's no 'i need to get a satisfactory sex the night before my match jinx' any more. And let's not forget he couldn't get it up for anyone other than Dan so if he wants to keep it up he needs Dan. He'll treat him better.
4.Theres more happy moments like Jjk teaching dan wrestling and going on dates etc. so it's not gonna be just physical. Theyll fall in love eventually and think about future
Jjk was not redeemed but defuffed with physical disabilities and that's also one way of making the Tops with Low EQ suffer, imo.
So i don't think it's a rushed ending.
The only things to keep curiousity over are stuff that didn't happen even remotely Example their coming out to their friends reactions, Jealous encounters, celebrations, etc. which I'm not interested in. Cause rich guys in fictional bl Doesn't have that 'being gay, bad!' narratives
But my only request for Mingwa are for side stories about the side couple, Yoongu × Heesung , unfortunately even their story is also ended with potato dabbling in junior artist roles for heesung's movies. And I want Moreeeeee for this couple. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ ┗( T﹏T )┛
I still can't believe this has 65 side stori chapters 65! That's like half the main story lol
In the novel?
It only has 5 too from what I heard,with 65 being the chapter count of the entire story :0
Yes in the novel. 4 epilogues + 65 side stories on Ridibooks https://ridibooks.com/books/297043476?_rdt_sid=collections&_rdt_idx=14
I can flex that I was with this story throughout from the start. Amazing that it took 3 years & with planning it , maybe 4 , the course was long & JK learn something like his jinx is nothing short of a reassurance that he can be enough for himself. Kim Dan , cutie Dan ending up with a life partner to care for him is good ending too. We did came a long way from misunderstandings to wholesome!
Wishing congratulations to Mingwa!! Anticipating her Next work eagerly:-)
Same here, where are my 3 years like??? HOW did that even happen
Looks like editor was feeling doki doki for the author thinking it was a she. Turns out a guy author was writing bl.
I think it was a nice side story. Edit: I saw their picture bubble on the cover they're a couple too lmao
I searched but didn't get any novel link yet
I thought of him as a yandere & by the end of the main story he was not, but in sides he still showed up yandereness with that locking u up in a room talk. Yep he's atleast a orange flag cause he lets him attend college & making friends but not without his full info on him...at all times ? Atleast MC knows he has genuine feelings and not just obsession. And yeah definitely needed a wedding chapter cmon there's so much to unpack if they meet ML family & all
TMI : When I was very young I saw someone breastfeeding an adult and it was kinda weird feeling. I thought it was unnecessary cause they were sucking so hard. I know they were gonna have sex and it was just foreplay but breast sucking with milk was very confusing to me at that time. This story reminded me of it and I'm finally understanding it's not only hot but also very relaxing for the mother's with full milk tits. Kudos to the author & artist
People are having a hard time understanding there are some women who like domination during sex. And Grace is one of those lady. After reading the novel I've always thought why the hell she didn't kick him and scratch him as she can AND has killed her other rapist with just her thighs clenching. She's more than capable of killing her assaulters. But she liked sex with winston (because he's her first love too) and that's what makes her character so fking complicated now. She's badass spy. You guys will know soon when she turns on the rebels with a pregnant belly and everyone finds out they were nothing without her brains and agility.
This is a clarification edit: My comments are after all reading the whole Novel. It is not describing present time Grace. She's one of my all time favourite Morally Grey(t) character so be respectful guys
Grace is literally one of the most interesting FLs I've ever read. Love her character!
Honestly, I think this is one of the reason why I like this story sm when I hate stories like Cry or better yet beg.... Grace is a strong and complicated character that I'm somehow always drawn to her
You must have a bullet in your mind.
Yeah Grace put a bullet there . I'm lovesick.
There's lovesick and then there's bad comprehension skils where you become a rape apologist
2/10 ragebait
Oh shit I did not read the whole comment. Thought you were praising her badass character in the novel. Wtf possessed you to say she liked it, she's clearly in a life or death situation every time
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I was half awake when I wrote this. Ignore the bad grammar but I stand by what I said.
my bad i was the ragebait here, sorry internet stranger
Rape apologist for a fictional character? You're in too deep down moral policing mama go touch some grass
I like her character cause there's growth from feeling complicated to being accepting of that said toxic love. (Later on in the story) So yes I can say she liked it. So what? Can't ppl like fiction now? Do y'all have to go comment it's RAPE in every fucking dark story's comment section? Go touch some grass just go right now
Apparently "it's fiction" is the fandom's cheat code. Type it in and they think romanticizing rape becomes immune to criticism.
First of all I'm not 'romanticizing' rape , author is. I'm just a reader. If an author writes a character: Grace here for example, I'm fully aware of her pain & hardships & i kinda like the way she handled her grief & rapist. The situation is never in her favour so she's forced to keep meeting & taking help from Leon. So unnecessary to keep calling it rape all the time when sometimes it can be named differently. What happens later in the story is what I'm referrencing practically all the time here. So when ppl say oh so you're a rape apologist when my whole attention is on a rape victim & her decisions, you knida get worked up. I think it's important for y'all to make your own posts regarding Leon & his antics rather than inserting yourself in Grace related posts. Or better just down vote & move on if you have nothing niché to say.
(P.s) Fiction is fiction bro, you can never assume a person who likes dark fiction is bad person irl too. Especially if it's another woman. It's like you do not understand women being a woman yourself. I always think oh these ppl are probably very young or very new to dark fantasy to speak like this but most times it's all grown up women who have high ideas of moral policing on other readers. You gotta be very smart to acknowledge there's different feelings a woman feels while reading dark fantasy it's not just gooning to dominant sex it's the feeling of reading how the FML is overcoming such atrocities. It's inspirational & that's why this genre is famous for. I hope you learned something & will not repeat this mistakes. (⌒▽⌒)
Girl, nobody is calling you a bad person for reading dark fiction. You're arguing against something they never said. The problem is that every time someone criticizes Leon's actions, y all immediately shift the conversation to Grace's healing journey. Yes, Grace is the victim. Yes, her resilience can be inspiring. But that doesn't mean people have to stop calling what happened to her rape just because the story later focuses on her recovery or relationship with Leon. You said it's "unnecessary" to keep calling it rape and that it can be named differently sometimes. Why? That's literally what happened. A victim moving forward with her life doesn't change the act itself. Grace's decisions afterward don't erase what Leon did.
And honestly, criticism of Leon naturally belongs in discussions about Grace because he's the reason for a huge part of her trauma. You can't separate the victim from the person who caused the harm and then act like people are inserting themselves into the conversation. Also, nobody is "moral policing" for criticizing the author's writing choices. If you're allowed to praise the story for how it handles Grace, then other people are allowed to criticize how it handles Leon and the romanticization of his actions.
The funny thing is you're asking people to respect different interpretations while dismissing anyone who disagrees as "young," "new to dark fantasy," or incapable of understanding women. Maybe accept that people can read the same story and come away with different conclusions instead of acting like yours is the only mature interpretation.
The conversation keeps getting shifted to "don't judge readers" when the criticism was about comments claiming Grace enjoyed the rape or treating obvious trauma-bonding/Stockholm syndrome dynamics as romance. If Grace is such a great character, then saying "she liked it" is one of the biggest insults you can make to her character, especially when "it's fiction" gets used as an excuse every time that interpretation is criticized.
Exactly. The discussion was never about policing what people read. The criticism was aimed at comments claiming Grace enjoyed what happened to her or treating trauma-bonding as some kind of romantic love story. That's a completely different issue. And honestly, if you supposedly love Grace as a character, saying "she liked it" is one of the most disrespectful interpretations possible because it erases everything she went through. It turns her trauma, fear, and lack of choices into consent, which is not the same thing at all.
Like be serious for a second. If Grace is such an amazing character to you, why are you reducing her entire trauma to "she liked it"? That's one of the biggest disservices you can do to her character. The whole point is that she was trapped, traumatized, and forced to depend on him, yet somehow people twist that into consent or romance.
Lmao none of y'all have reading comprehension?
I clearly wrote from my first comment that it's all after reference to the full novel i read. I notified in my recent comment as well I'm talking about a future Grace.
Right now I don't like winston. Infact after reading the whole Novel I never did like him. So in a way it's confirmed I m not a rape apologist, or a male lead supporter in fact.
Second point tho (y'all dragging me for) I'm again... Talking about a Happy ever after phase Grace. Which is why even tho (spoiler) she is cornered, needs help, she does have consentual sex with him. And doesn't sees it as Rape anymore. Why? Because she likes him as well, he's also her first love, she feels guilty for what happened to his father, & making him cruel to the rebels. I'm glad she doesn't feel any better for the rebels as well. I really like her motherhood, her brief freedom it's so different from other female leads & that rape phase was definitely a sad moment for me as a reader as well. But everything is author's will.
She likes it - is a reference to her near climax & side story phase. Which reveals part of her thinking. Which is why Grace Right now, bound like a dog & forced to have sex & carry pregnancy while thinking something contrasting is making her character so so complicated.
If you have time to read this & reply or moral policing. Then you can take the time to read the novel, and take it with the author first and then... Come reply. Savvy? Have fun
Let's be sensible for once leon haters. Pls make your own leon hateposts don't insert leon in my comments. It is not about him. Even tho he raped her, their relationship later turned to geniune love. Not apologising, just saying author's will.
The kinky shit was definitely rape adjacent & I do agree it was worse than rape but like I said if author wrote 'so grace gets turned on by kinky stuff', i cannot complain much lol ..this is why I say READ NOVEL YOURSELF , TAKE IT WITH THE AUTHOR.
P. S in my honest opinion author wrote Grace into a grey character. She's a spy, a rebel that caused honest soldier's and civilians death. She is brainwashed but she's actively held gun at innocents. That's what rebel spies get. Honestly the nail plucking would have been made me hate even Author but they only stopped at forced pregnancy. That's worse i know but it's fiction & sex (consentual or not) is nothing now. Sorry to fellow women but normalising rape from this ML was our fault. Why did we let this happen? Oh Right because that's what happened to rebel spies IRL. Hmm but choosing a honest good housemaid profession was gonna get her rape too, that's on author. And I & some readers actively wanna forget it lolol This is the only reason I will let Their Daughter be named after Leon's mother's name be acceptable. She saved innocent housemaid from rape.
What do you think friends?
Let's be sensible for once leon haters. Pls make your own leon hateposts don't insert leon in my comments. It is not about him. Even tho he raped her, their relationship later turned to geniune love. Not apologising, just saying author's will.
The kinky shit was definitely rape adjacent & I do agree it was worse than rape but like I said if author wrote 'so grace gets turned on by kinky stuff', i cannot complain much lol ..this is why I say READ NOVEL YOURSELF , TAKE IT WITH THE AUTHOR.
P. S in my honest opinion author wrote Grace into a grey character. She's a spy, a rebel that caused honest soldier's and civilians death. She is brainwashed but she's actively held gun at innocents. That's what rebel spies get. Honestly the nail plucking would have been made me hate even Author but they only stopped at forced pregnancy. That's worse i know but it's fiction & sex (consentual or not) is nothing now. Sorry to fellow women but normalising rape from this ML was our fault. Why did we let this happen? Oh Right because that's what happened to rebel spies IRL. Hmm but choosing a honest good housemaid profession was gonna get her rape too, that's on author. And I & some readers actively wanna forget it lolol This is the only reason I will let Their Daughter be named after Leon's mother's name be acceptable. She saved innocent housemaid from rape.
What do you think friends?
Is it funny you tried to edit your comment to remove our reply, scared to be roasted huh?
Ops I didn't see your comment, pardon this reply
Girl, nobody is confused about the fact that you're talking about future Grace. We understand that. The issue is that you keep using future Grace's feelings to reframe what happened to present Grace. If Grace eventually falls in love with him, chooses to stay with him, has consensual sex with him later, or gets a happy ending, that still doesn't change the circumstances of what happened before. A victim's later feelings don't retroactively rewrite past events.
And honestly, saying "she doesn't see it as rape anymore" isn't really the strong argument you think it is. The story can have Grace forgive him, love him, or justify him in her own mind, but readers aren't obligated to adopt her perspective. We're allowed to analyze the events independently from the character's feelings. Also, nobody needs to read the entire novel to criticize scenes that are already available. That's like saying nobody can criticize a chapter until they've read hundreds more chapters. If the author presents something controversial, people are going to discuss it based on what's currently shown.
And I find it funny that you accuse everyone else of lacking reading comprehension when people clearly understand your point, they just disagree with it. Understanding an argument and rejecting it are two different things. At the end of the day, future Grace loving Winston doesn't erase the fact that present Grace was bound, coerced, violated, and stripped of her agency. Those events don't magically become romantic because the story later gives them a happy ending.
Girl, nobody is stopping you from liking Grace, her ending, or even the novel itself. What I don't understand is why you keep acting like criticism of Leon is somehow irrelevant when he's literally one of the biggest reasons Grace's story exists in the first place. Then there's the part where you say "that's what happened to rebel spies IRL." Realistic doesn't automatically mean beyond criticism. War crimes, abuse, and violence happened in real life too. People can acknowledge historical realism while still discussing how a story portrays those events. You can like the ending. You can like Grace's character. You can even like the complexity of their relationship. But people aren't lacking reading comprehension just because they don't think a happy ending erases everything that happened before it
I also don't understand why Grace being morally grey is supposed to justify what happened to her. Being a rebel, a spy, or causing harm doesn't suddenly make rape or forced pregnancy fair game. Those are separate issues. A character can be flawed and still be a victim.
You really onto this in too deep. I'm right in my opinion tho.
I said many times I see her rape phase and felt sad too. And yeah she had been delivered her punishment too because let's be real she is not an innocent. That's what rebel spies who causes civilians and soldier's death were dealth with. So to me that horrible phase was kinda (borrowing your words here)...justified. Author MADE SURE it looks justified. She wasn't tortured like other rebels, not hurt with plucking nails , not carved out tendons. So because she turned him on, he did what rapist would do.
What now? What more you want from readers? To acknowledge it as rape? Yes it was. To acknowledge her as a victim of forced pregnancy? Hundred percent. To acknowledge Leon is bad? He's worse than a dog. everything you think is bad , i already know. You are not wrong and neither am i. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Just because you didn't read the novel and I did, I have more idea on what her true feelings were/are so I'm more than in my right mind to say everything i said. If you read a murder thriller, and say I read 4 chapters i despise the murderer, you're not wrong on moral ground but if you haven't read the whole thing you wouldn't know what was the motive behind the murder. Get it?
( Spoiler: She began to like it, it would not be STOCKHOLM SYNDROME cause she had different means to get out, she was waiting for her rebel group to rescue her, she eventually did go out easily by threatening another maid , later she left a dying winston and escaped too, shows you how she's not in love but she definitely missed the sex) (Author's words not mine)
I hope you understand now why , To me , Grace's journey has been a well made plot. Even tho it's mostly ppl manipulating , coercing her, and taking advantage of. She didn't give in, not to winston not to her godawful circumstances. She's really a well written character. That's all. She's Morally Grey so author has dealth her punishments in the form of Non-Con things. And I will take it as a bad phase. She's written as a strong character who can deal with her other rapists very easily so why didn't she fight back winston is a mystery you'll know after you read the whole thing. Unfortunately some comments are very stubborn and trying to prove that iam non-chalant to her worse experiences but iam well aware of them and iam just choosing to lighten the mood here. I read some ppl starting to dislike grace so my main comment was on how great she's. And shed some light (without too much spoilers) on her complicated persona.
Uh.. spoilers. She chose this mission to become the spy for him. She chose this mission to go see him after a long while. She chose to not fight back during her confinement. She chose not abort his child. She chose not to abandon her child. She chose to come back to him. She CHOSE IT.
There. Is it all justified now? Take it with the author man I'm tired of explaining whys and hows
Clock them all
Girl stop you're embarrassing yourself
She didn't clock us girl, she just literally explain it??? Where's your comprehension? And not you literally commenting here to try to have an allies, funny huh
Lol someone mad I told someone to shut your fake ass up. keep on crying, when you're actually the one embarrassing yourself
Triggered much?
But from my point of view, she did clock you. You're just mad that someone didn't say you clocked her instead.
As a matter of fact, you're the one sounding like you have no reading comprehension skills. At this point, I'm genuinely embarrassed for you
The funny thing is she literally agreed with some of my points. She admitted Leon raped Grace. She admitted the forced pregnancy was horrible. She admitted some of the sexual content was abusive. So what exactly am I supposed to be "triggered" about? The only difference is that she thinks the later romance and happy ending changes how she views their relationship, while I don't. That's called a difference of opinion, not a lack of reading comprehension.
You saying she "clocked" me is funny because half of her comment was agreeing with the facts people have been pointing out from the start. We just came to different conclusions from them. Maybe read what she actually wrote before telling other people they can't read.
Girl no one's mad, maybe it's you? Aww keep crying bitch
Who denied any of the points she made?
I literally agreed with everything she said and told her to clock it. My comment wasn't even directed at you, yet you still felt the need to jump in and get butthurt about it.
That alone tells me all I need to know. So yeah, you're the one who sounds triggered here
Whose comment thread am I under? Theirs.
Who was I agreeing with? The person whose analysis I enjoyed and whose entire take I agreed with, including their conclusion.
So naturally, I'm going to tell them that, especially when I share the same opinion.
The real question is: who got triggered by a comment that wasn't even about them and decided to insert themselves into the conversation? You
It's funny how the person crying because someone told another person to "clock" them is now calling someone else a crying bitch.
Meanwhile, you're the one whining, complaining, and throwing a fit over a comment that wasn't even directed at you.
At this point, you're accusing others of doing exactly what you're doing yourself. So who's really the crying bitch here?
Obviously we got trigger of her original comment, you don't see it because she edit it. Who would in the right mind would say grace enjoyed being raped????
We are talking about RAPE!! RAPE is not a fucking joke,
The funny part is you're acting like I inserted myself into a conversation, but that's literally what comment sections are for. People reply to opinions. That's how discussions work. And girl, of course people are going to "insert" Leon into the discussion when the argument is literally about Grace and Leon's relationship. Who in their right mind is going to sit there and agree with the claim that Grace enjoyed being raped? That's exactly why people pushed back in the first place. And no, I wasn't crying"because someone said another person clocked me. I replied because I disagreed with what they were saying. If replying to a comment is considered whining, then everyone under that post including you is whining too.
You're sick if you agree that grace enjoyed being raped. The woman literally got abused and forced too??? Holy fuck ain't no way
Then don’t cry about me telling someone to clock you.
You understand what comment sections are for, so everyone is entitled to their opinions. That’s exactly why I agreed with her and supported how she expressed her views, which to me was more intelligent than the rest of you whining clowns.
So I don’t see any issue with why I would tell her to clock it. Unless you’re just being childish, or your fragile ego got hurt by it, lol
Which I saw before and she didn't mean it like that. like the way you all are interpreting it to be lol
Some of here because her original post literally say only that grace enjoyed being raped that's why we got mad and call her out. Then she literally change it now that's why some of her comment agree to what we're saying. Who's crying though?? Girl read my comment again, I even say no one's mad, eh??
Girl she did mean it. Stop justifying people, she have the chance to edit her post before posting it, and mind you her another comment proving my claim though??
She didn't mean it but there she goes saying, "that's what she gets being rebel"
The only sick and brainrot one here is you, because you keep twisting people’s comments just to fit your narrative and defend your point.
The moment someone interprets or analyzes the story differently from your opinion, you start calling it trash and pulling words and meanings out of context.
No one said anything about Grace enjoying being raped except you, or what you seem to be projecting onto the discussion. Stop misrepresenting what people are saying, it’s honestly embarrassing at this point and shows how you all lack simple reading comprehension
Girl read other comments too??? HAHAHAHA
I'm only one who called it but if you start reading on all comments, you would see that they're disagreeing of grace being raped and I literally follow it too
Say the mad one, the original comment said they didn't change anything, she add her edit. And explained better what her comment meant coz all you slow readers can't understand simple things and like seeing things and twisting people words to suit your narrative lol
Yeah yeah yeah the other comments which are full of bunch of hypocrite and lying readers like you, of cause you all will see whatever the heck you want to as long as it helps justify your disagreement with the person views
Girl she literally remove some of her comment, are we deadass??? If only I could put some screenshots I would do it. Before she add some sentence on her comment she literally remove some of her original. I thought you already see it but why attacking me?? Girl I'm not the first person in this comment section saying grace doesn't enjoy being raped. If I were you, I would read all comment before replying to me
Huh?? We just have different views on after situation but sonnybie literally agreed to me, hell nah
You're claiming you already see it but here you go being mad, girl is literally funny
Which your interpretation took out of context. That doesn’t mean she supported or approved of what happened to her.
It could mean she viewed it as karma for something she may have done to others or as part of the story’s themes, not that she liked or endorsed the way it happened.
You all tend to focus only on the negative and interpret things in the worst possible way when you don’t agree with someone. That says more about your perspective than anything else.
I believe you’re misreading the intent of the comment entirely, which just shows that you're the disgusting one
Girl read to comprehend lol
Chill doggy, Leon not gonna fuck you(づ￣ ³￣)づ
Because that’s what people like you do. She didn’t say any of the claims you’re attributing to her, you just turned her comment into something else entirely.
You took an interpretation, misunderstood it, and when she edited it to explain herself better, you saw an escape goat and used it as an excuse to argue against something she never actually said. Even after she edited her comment to clarify her meaning, you still twisted it in a negative direction to fit your narrative
Oh so now she agreed with you, lol just make up your sorry ass mind, she supported rape then, she still agreed with you about the same rape you claimed she supported and said grace deserves
You keep on saying mad, when you sound more like the mad one. I'm actually chill and here having fun with you lol
Huh? Girl go back to school, I don't understand what you're trying to say. What the fuck is that grammar
Same girl, instead of enjoying grace topic, I more enjoying of your punctuation marks. Love it girl, continue it ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
It seems you can’t think beyond a man's dick. You think people are like you, unable to say anything without twisting it into something sexual. That just shows your true nature hypocrite .
It’s funny how you talk about rape being wrong, yet you still reduce everything to sexual framing, well I don't need a fictional man dick, your father is doing a great job at that
Yeah, because your fucking brain is too slow to understand anything other than a fictional dick, so why would you understand anything I would say
Yeah, I will. And while we’re at it, maybe you can do a better job teaching me proper English. I think that would distract you a little from imagining how a dick is good for me and from twisting people’s comments lol
Cuz your grammar is bad that's why people can't understand it, lmao
Bitch, who tf read manhwa stories that have rape in it? Ask yourself buddy. Who defend shit abuser male lead aks yourself? Well obviously Leon not gonna fuck you for being his defender, eww, get a life bro
ask*
Omg you're so funny. Well obviously you literally like Leon, so that's line literally suit you bitch
No because your so slow that's why you can't understand me, how about that
Fictional dick but her reading list full of rape, yuck, if I were you, I would go to school. Instead of being bitch here.
Girl.... I'm not slow, you just literally suck on English grammar.
Fuck your punctuation marks, and it's you're not your
Well who is still in a rape story lying about hating it and reading it and talking about a fictional character dick, like I said, I don't need a fictional man dick when I have a real one, your father is doing a great job at that
Eww, get a life broski
It's literally true though? Leon not gonna fuck you for being his defender. I just literally say it because you loved him so much that you're creating long ass paragraph and posting this to defend him? So what's the line should I gave you?
Lol, me when I lie. “Full of…” girl, go back to school. and take your math class. Anything just to lie, get attention, and twist your ridiculous claims
Girl, your comma kept bothering me. You don't know how to use punctuation marks?? Did you even go to school??
Yep I like Leon but I prefer the real deal over the a fictional one
Sorry to burst it, I am smart and good on math. How about you dear? Did you take your English class seriously?? Aww, take it now, your punctuation marks is suck.
In fact you're the one who need to go back on school. And how tf math class relate on this topic?? English grammar is better for you (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Yep, my grammar sucks, but at least my brain isn’t constantly fixated on sexual assumptions on real life person over a fictional character and the very same man dick you hate lol, the irony. Coz the way you seems to keeps circling back to that dick, feels like you probably like and want it to
Girl, I said "Leon isn't gonna fuck you" because you're defending him like he's paying your bills. The fact that you responded by inventing sexual fantasies about what I supposedly want is way weirder than anything I said.
Also, maybe don't come for people's arguments when your grammar is fighting for its life.
"eww" is what they refer and call people like you, who make sexual assumptions and statements about people. You are not different from a stinky 80 years old creep who harass people, disgusting mindset you have there
And who tf bring someone father here and said they like dih in real life??? Girl you're the one who's disgusting. Mind you Leon is fictional and your statement is about real life. Yuckyyy
Maybe you're fatherless?
Yeap that can't happen because, this is reality and he is not real, I'm quite well not to mix fiction and reality unlike you and your father is more than enough like I said before
Exactly, he's not real. Which is why it's funny that you're taking a sarcastic joke about a fictional character this personally. And if we're talking about mixing fiction and reality, you're the one who went from discussing a manhwa character to making assumptions about me as a real person. Also, bringing my father into a discussion about a fictional manhwa character doesn't make your argument stronger. It just shows you've run out of things to say about the actual topic.
Nope I didn't go to school but I believe they is a bigger issue than my punctuation mark, creep. Let's talk about the 6inch dick currently inbreeding in your brain
Your sentence can't breathe bro
Girl... I thought you don't mix fiction to reality?? That's a freaking fiction joke?? Leon is not real?? Hahahaha
Now I knew it. No wonder you lack of brain. "They is" tf this grammar
I don’t think you’re good at math because you got your numbers wrong when you stalk my account and said “full of…”. If you were good at math, you wouldn’t have said that, or you intentionally lied, similar to how you twist peoples comment and claimed someone was supporting rape, which wasn’t what was said
Full of? Bitch full of is not like a full number. It is large amount of something and it's your manhwa stories. Hell nah, you don't know this basic words??
And how do English classes come into this when we’re discussing a story? English might not even be my first language, for all you know.
If you can’t understand me, that’s your problem. As long as the majority of others do, I’m fine.
Maybe the real question is whether your English is as good as you claim, because if it is, you shouldn’t have any trouble understanding me like everyone else does
How did English become part of this conversation? How are we supposed to understand you when your English grammar and punctuation are all over the place?
Nobody said English has to be your first language. The point is that when your comments are unclear or poorly worded, people can misunderstand what you're trying to say. Also, "everyone else understands me" isn't exactly the flex you think it is when half the thread is arguing over what you meant.
So it means when you like a character or defend them, it means you want to fuck them, or anyone whom you defend means you want to fuck them also, I pity and fear for the people around you. you're really a disgusting and a perverted creep gosh
Yeah maybe you should take your own advice and don't come for people when they're not taking to, by being a creep and showing how vile your mindset is eww
Girl... You literally just said you don't mix fiction to reality. I don't know what to think anymore, are you crazy? You're the one who's perverted and creep. Who tf enjoy rape stories though? I fear the most people around you, imagine they have someone who enjoy woman being abused and defend their abuser. And mind you, you're more creep than me.
So let me get this straight. I make one sarcastic joke about a fictional man, and your response is to spend multiple comments speculating about my sexual interests, what I want, and why I talk about him. Then you call me the creep? The call is coming from inside the house, girl.
So that hurt, bringing your father who is real over a fictional character. So I'm not real right? when you made sexual claims about me over the same fictional character, hypocrite
Omyyygosh, I don't understand you. Leon is fictional? And my father is real, who's more creep? You right? HAHAHHAAH
You literally kinda say, no, I enjoy more real life dih, ew, who's creep???
Maybe you're motherless?
Huh, your sentence is literally out of place. Girl just touch some grass, I'm begging
Are we deadasss? You're the one who made sexual claims at me. Girl, read your previous comment. This is why taking English is a must!
Sorry, I have a healthy family and supportive. They are supportive in my school though that you don't have. Ops, you don't go to school right? Aww
You most be really mentally unstable lol, who started making sexual assumptions over a real life person with a fictional character? You.
So you can't take what you dish right? Lol, the same person who ran out of things to say and resulted to telling someone about wanting a dick, is complaining about someone doing the same thing
Girl, you're acting like "Leon isn't gonna fuck you" was some deep psychological analysis when it was obviously a sarcastic comment about how hard you're riding for a fictional man. Meanwhile, you genuinely started making assumptions about me as a real person, my desires, my mindset, and now my mental health. So no, we're not doing the same thing. And the funniest part is that you keep saying I ran out of things to say, yet you've completely abandoned the original discussion. Every reply from you is now about me instead of the topic.
Who's really out of arguments here?
I'm gonna stop now because your sentence kept dragging to out of place and I value my education. Get a life girl
Yep same old lines, keep complaining about it, they is still more where that came from, hoping to suffocate it still the end lol
So take my fictional jokes about your father also, since we are making sexual jokes now
And you lack self principle, degenerate scum
Which you still lied and keep on lying about, which just shows you have no truth and only twist and exaggerate things, jt to prove your ridiculous points
Just keep reading, or better yet, translate it. With the way you praise your English skills, I thought you were really good.
People do understand me, so why can’t you? Or maybe you’re the one who doesn’t really understand English
"Flex" I wasn't going for that move, but now that you mentioned it, maybe i should. Just say you lack basic English skills, coz you are literally the only one who seems to have issue with my comment lol
"who tf enjoys rape story?"
I should also ask you the same question " who tf complains about a rape story but still here reading it and claiming they don't or just comment and complain for attention sake" creep. Why also making sexual joke and comment on a real life person. who looks more like the deranged one amongst us? You
Then let me make one statement clear, I agreed with someone comments and then you assumed I liked whatever he did to grace. But then kept on crying about me telling them to clock your sorry ass up. That's just shows how fragile your ego is and how much attention you seek
Oh no Leon is indeed fictional and I'm real to. So who is actually a creep and pervert
Yeah I enjoy it, because I'm straight, the same way your mother enjoyed your father dick, maybe reserve the "eww" statement for your mother
I don't wanna touch some grass, I like touching fictional dick "eww"
The fuck you started making sexual statements about me liking Leon dick and supporting him because of that. If lying and deceit had a face, it would look like you. coz you have no truth in anything you say or do in life, you keep on lying and pulling things out of your stinky ass and twisting things and denialing it when the evidence is clear. I have seen my comments and I know what I replied back to, you started making sexual assumptions about me and I literally followed suit, so why pained and denial it
If the behavior you're displaying here, it what it means to have a supportive family, then they're doing a bad job at it, or you failed them, lol. Even those without parents that I have interacted with, acted and were more civilized and intelligent than you
And who was the one who started accusing others of supporting rape, defending Leon, and being sick?
You seem to keep track of everything other people say to you, but conveniently forget the things you say yourself.
You started with the assumptions and accusations, then turned around and complained when people responded in the same manner. That's what I find funny.
You can't start a conversation by putting words in people's mouths and making claims about what they believe, then act shocked when people push back against it. grow up and start thinking intelligently before spilling shit from your deprived brain
Say the person who can't make a single sentence without talking about dick, seek help, disgusting scunt
Girl, are you for real?
The reason I keep asking you to clarify or fix your statements is because some of them are genuinely difficult to understand. That's not me flexing my English skills—that's me trying to figure out what you're actually trying to say.
And let's not pretend punctuation doesn't matter. Punctuation exists for a reason. If your sentences are missing punctuation, have punctuation in the wrong places, or are structured awkwardly, of course people are going to interpret them differently.
Girl, I made one joke. You, on the other hand, can't seem to go five minutes without making the same type of comments yourself. So before calling someone disgusting, maybe check your own track record first.
The hypocrisy is hilarious. You're condemning me for one joke while excusing the countless ones you've made. So tell me again—who's the disgusting one here?
The problem with your argument is that you're acting as if I randomly woke up one day and decided to accuse people of supporting rape for no reason. That's not what happened.
I came to that conclusion based on the things they were saying and defending. If someone repeatedly excuses, minimizes, justifies, or defends rape, then people are naturally going to question where they stand on the issue. You don't get to say things that normalize or defend rape and then act outraged when people draw conclusions from your own words.
What's funny is that you're more concerned about the accusation than the behavior that led to it. Instead of addressing the actual points being made, you're trying to rewrite the conversation into "you started accusing people." No, I responded to what was being said. If those statements were never made, then point out where I got them wrong. If they were made, then stop pretending the accusation appeared out of thin air.
And let's not act like you care about assumptions all of a sudden. The same people complaining about being judged had no issue making assumptions about others, putting words in their mouths, questioning their intelligence, attacking their character, and assigning motives to them. Apparently assumptions are only a problem when they're directed back at you.
You keep framing this as me being unreasonable, but the reality is that actions and words have consequences. If people don't want to be associated with defending or excusing rape, then maybe they shouldn't spend their time defending or excusing it in the first place.
At least I have a supportive family. The difference is I don't need to bring them up every five seconds to validate myself or win an argument. If having a supportive family is such a huge achievement to you, then maybe start acting like someone who actually benefited from that support.
See? You got offended my comment yet you literally like it??? The disgusting, no wonder you don't have parents, must be hard right??
Fix your grammar bitch, go to school, holy fuck HAHAHAHHAHAH
Because I'm calling out? Learn the difference calling out and reading? It's just a basic words and you don't know what's the difference between them? Aww, poor you
Lol, you spilled out bs from that stinky pit you called a mouth and blocked me, typical move from immature people like you.
You're acting like every tiny punctuation mistake suddenly makes a sentence impossible to understand. Most of the time, you know exactly what's being said, you just choose to focus on the grammar instead of the actual point being made.
And let's not pretend this is about helping me. Constantly nitpicking punctuation and sentence structure comes across less like confusion and more like you trying to play English teacher in a comment section.
Nobody said punctuation doesn't matter, but acting like every misplaced comma completely changes the meaning of a simple statement is a bit dramatic. If the message is clear enough for you to understand, maybe the problem isn't my writing
Please clown The difference is that I can own what I say, while you're bending over backwards trying to justify yours and hinding behind it a joke comment because I called you out for your perverted creepy sexual assumptions on a real person.
And let's not act like calling out one comment suddenly makes someone a hypocrite. If you think my comments are so terrible, you're more than welcome to point them out, as will I point yours out, instead of throwing around vague accusations and hoping they stick.
Also, the fact that you're this defensive over my comment says a lot.
So no, I'm not losing sleep over your attempt at a gotcha moment. Nice try, though
@kreia you have to be one of the dumbest people I have come across in this community lol. And no, the problem with your argument is that you're treating your conclusion as if it's an established fact. You decided that people were "defending rape," and from that point on, you interpreted everything they said through that lens.
Questioning someone's interpretation of a scene, discussing context, or disagreeing with your definition of a situation is not automatically the same thing as excusing or supporting rape. That's exactly why people took issue with your accusation in the first place.
You keep saying the accusation was a natural consequence of their words, but that's your opinion, not an objective fact. Plenty of people looked at the same comments and didn't reach the conclusion that they support rape, like you and your co-haters did. The fact that others disagree with your interpretation should tell you that your conclusion isn't as self-evident as you're pretending it is.
And no, people being upset about being accused doesn't mean they're ignoring the discussion. Being falsely labeled as something serious is a valid thing to push back against. If you're going to accuse people of supporting rape, then the burden is on you to prove that's actually what they were doing, not just insist that anyone who disagrees with you must secretly be defending it.
The irony is that you're criticizing others for making assumptions while doing exactly that yourself. You took comments, assigned motives to the people making them, and then treated those assumptions as facts. That's the very behavior you're condemning.
At the end of the day, disagreeing with your interpretation doesn't automatically make someone a rape apologist, no matter how many times you repeat it
And yet you're the one who started with the personal attacks in the conversation in the first place, so clearly it struck a nerve somewhere.
The funny thing is, nobody said having a supportive family was an achievement. The point was that some people are fortunate enough to have a support system that teaches them basic decency, accountability, and how to interact with others without being unnecessarily hostile.
But since we're talking about validation, it's interesting that you're so quick to brag about your supportive family while acting like their existence somehow strengthens your argument. Having support means very little if none of the lessons seem to have stuck.
So congratulations on having a supportive family, I guess. The real question is what exactly you learned from them
@kreia Lol, it’s funny how you think I don’t have parents. You’re the one with the so-called supportive family, yet you sound more like the one with dead parents, perverted creep
@kreia And fix your insanity and reading comprehension bitch, you perverted old creepy scum
Calling something “calling out” doesn’t automatically make it correct or well-argued.
Also, if your only response is sarcasm and condescension instead of actually engaging with what was said, then you’re not really strengthening your point, you’re just deflecting, like a little pathetic bitch.
If you want this to be a real discussion, stick to the argument instead of turning it into personal digs, then running away when I matched your negative energy
@kreia An advice from me: don’t take the way you think here and carry it out there. You’ll only show people how stupid you really are. And try not to verbally sexually harass others, it only shows people what a creep you really are
Plot twist unexpected. What was it all for!!!??? Jimin & his gang already got arrested so whyyyy i hope the reunion is soon i want to finish reading this soon
I'm glad most ppl here are like we know how this story goes we've read the novel so nobody's attacking Leon anymore lol
Girls this is not Stockholm syndrome cause she didn't get attracted/attached with him during her captivity. Infact she was already in love with him since her childhood/teenage years. And will like him again after a long very long time. Forgiving him is impossible but she does feel lonely so she let's him in (in her life as well as her bedroom)
Spoilers: She decided to go see him but she was already exposed to be a rebel's famous daughter who has killed innocent civilians in bombs and what not...and mainly Grace Riddle was known as the daughter of Leon's father's killer. And there was a risk of him hunting her down. The grudge and negetivity Leon has is lil bit justified. But obviously the non-con stuff is his personal sin. The redemption is good cause it was just sex for both of them thankfully and emotional hurt like forced pregnancy, cheating/jealousy was a bigger hurdle to cross. The loneliness* was also key role. Both emotionally and against the rebels. Being a lonely woman with a kidnapped child is not easy.
Since after pregnancy there's no more non con stuff We'll see a better change in this PWP genre and then hopefully there's no more misinterpreted Stockholm syndrome talks.