It’s not rape?? Otherwise Jooha wouldn’t told him to stop, he legit said “are you going to fuck me or suck me” where is the rape in that? pandisosoft
I mean towards the end he did say stop a lot and not in the way that seemed like he enjoyed or anything. IDK I just got a really bad rapey vibe from it especially when Dooshik continued after Jooha passed out.
I mean towards the end he did say stop a lot and not in the way that seemed like he enjoyed or anything. IDK I just got a really bad rapey vibe from it especially when Dooshik continued after Jooha passed out. goddamn
Like I said, it’s just hardcore rough sex, in a lot of these manhwas it’s like that and it’s not to show that there isn’t consent it’s basically he’s just feeling “too good” and it’s a lot to handle (especially since Jooha lost his memory so he doesn’t remember having sex with a man ig) And yeah I understand the part where Jooha passed out for sure but technically dooshik was still in Jooha, if he put it back in then ur right
Bro he said stop. It doesn't matter if he was feeling good or not. Stop is stop. He withdrew consent. Hardcore sex is still consensual. This wasn't. Icy River
Sure whatever it’s not that deep, he did like it, he just couldn’t handle it since he lost his memories
It isn't that deep so you should admit it was tape anf go on with your day instead of making excuses for fictional characters who won't thank you <3 Icy River
Says the person who doesn’t know what rape, like u said it’s fictional so who tf cares
You're doing the right thing. Minors can be so easily influenced and these rapist supporters will never stop being gross. BrokenEchoes
You're crossing the line, there. If you want to make a point, do so. But don't go name-calling people just to prove it.
If you guys want to raise awareness what's a potential rape is, good for you.
If we want to emphasize not to describe lightly the word rape over every single non-con scenario you interpret as, we're not pro-rape idealist.
Know the difference when we're trying to say not to downgrade that act of assault lightly. If you equate the scenarios, where, 1) the person was out of nowhere dragged at the back of the alley and was forced to sex, to 2) a person responding to the kiss of their crush which eventually led to a steamy intercourse, you're downgrading the assault case.
I'm not saying it's okay to not listen to your partner, what I'm saying is don't use the rape lightly. Take into consideration when you're going to use that. Because sometimes it can be misinterpreted as well, like, "you can initiate seducing other people but when you find you can't handle it, you'll blame the other person and play the victim since by then you would call it 'rape'." That scenario will cause psychological impact as well to the other person, no? Therefore, know when to drop that word if you want to educate minors. It's not a light topic to tackle on. There's two-sides of everything, so it'll really take a whole lot of proper explanation and understanding. Additionally, again, let's not equate those people or scenarios who have really experienced true assault, over some chapters of a smut story where there characters weren't even estranged in the first place. .
Besides, this is nonfic we're all reading here. Try to be mature and accept concepts like these exists. You're still reading the piece, aren't you?
You're crossing the line, there. If you want to make a point, do so. But don't go name-calling people just to prove it. If you guys want to raise awareness what's a potential rape is, good for you. If we want t... Eru
Idk your circumstances but if you withdraw consent in the middle of intercourse and the other person is still going it's not SA it is rape. It doesn't matter who seduced who. We are humans not animals. Glazing over rape is never ok. It was not just some little groping.
You're crossing the line, there. If you want to make a point, do so. But don't go name-calling people just to prove it. If you guys want to raise awareness what's a potential rape is, good for you. If we want t... Eru
I don't believe I am crossing any lines at all nor am I downgrading the act of assault/rape. If anything, that seems to be something you're doing.
Why do you think having your feelings ignored by the person you trust and being forced to continue sex is less rapey than being dragged into the alley way and raped by a stranger? They're both just different forms of rape and I can't say which one is worse than the other, though I do agree that there are different levels of rape/assault severity.
If you're not pro-rape, ask yourself why you feel the need to defend people who do it, fictional or not? True maturity is understanding that portrayal of problematic themes is there to be assessed and criticised readers. I don't hate the author for writing this story but I do hate when one of their creations is written out of character, like Dooshik was. Plus I'm not reading the story for the rapists, I'm reading it for the plot, art, etc.
I don't believe I am crossing any lines at all nor am I downgrading the act of assault/rape. If anything, that seems to be something you're doing.Why do you think having your feelings ignored by the person you ... BrokenEchoes
I agree with everything you said. I don't have a problem with people reading rape but trying to paint as something it's not is gross. If you an adult and you read that kind of stuff the least you can do is have self awareness over what you're consuming and admit it is morally questionable. That is where true maturity is.
I agree with everything you said. I don't have a problem with people reading rape but trying to paint as something it's not is gross. If you an adult and you read that kind of stuff the least you can do is have... Icy River
But you're the one implying that it's not rape though?
I don't believe I am crossing any lines at all nor am I downgrading the act of assault/rape. If anything, that seems to be something you're doing.Why do you think having your feelings ignored by the person you ... BrokenEchoes
Ask yourself why you need to name call people only to prove your point? You didn't even apologize. If you're here for the plot, I am too. And I understand that the plot has always been messed up. If you're here for it too, then why question everything until now? And why point out people who understand the plot is as thick as a mud? When you yourself is out here reading it? Or is it that you just want to make it look like you're better than us as human being?
Food for a thought, too, an argument or discussion can be healthy as long as you don't start pointing the hate towards the other party. Name call all you want about the topic, but never the person, a human being like you, about it. You labeling other people doesn't make your objectives and perspectives look reasonable.
That's just been the point I was pushing when inserted my thoughts here. If you can't realize labeling people isn't okay, then, you do you. I'm not self-righteous myself, just want to point out why you can't handle conversations without labeling other people as if you know them too well. We're here for the topic, not the identity of the person reading this behind a screen. Muting this now.
Ask yourself why you need to name call people only to prove your point? You didn't even apologize. If you're here for the plot, I am too. And I understand that the plot has always been messed up. If you're here... Eru
Not sure why you're offended by rape apologists being called rape apologists (unless you are one?). I won't ever apologise for that. Not because I think I'm better than anyone else but because it's disgusting to make excuses for rapists or deny that what they are doing is rape.
The rest of your comment doesn't make much sense anyway because it's got nothing to do with my original comment. Enjoy your mute time .
Not sure why you're offended by rape apologists being called rape apologists (unless you are one?). I won't ever apologise for that. Not because I think I'm better than anyone else but because it's disgusting t... BrokenEchoes
The way that person said nothing about your valid points and just reflected goodbye
Minors shouldn’t even be on this site in the first place, ur morals are in the wrong place bestie xx pandisosoft
Sure minors shouldn't be around but they're. But if you. As an adult. Can't understand what they read is rape you're just immature and you shouldn't be around either. Read whatever you like but if you aren't mature enough to know what you read you shouldn't be reading it.
Was it just me or did the sex scene feel a little rapey. Given everything that happened to Jooha
It was rape. Consent was clearly withdrawn and Dooshik kept on going even after he passed out
Because it was
It’s not rape?? Otherwise Jooha wouldn’t told him to stop, he legit said “are you going to fuck me or suck me” where is the rape in that?
It’s literally just hardcore rough sex
I mean towards the end he did say stop a lot and not in the way that seemed like he enjoyed or anything. IDK I just got a really bad rapey vibe from it especially when Dooshik continued after Jooha passed out.
true but that was when he was conscious still going after he was unconscious and passed out is a little….
Literally this. Plus given everything that Jooha and Dooshik went through and all of Jooha's trauma that Dooshik knows about. It was just plain weird.
Can you read?????? He literally said stop
Ahh, here we go again...
Like I said, it’s just hardcore rough sex, in a lot of these manhwas it’s like that and it’s not to show that there isn’t consent it’s basically he’s just feeling “too good” and it’s a lot to handle (especially since Jooha lost his memory so he doesn’t remember having sex with a man ig)
And yeah I understand the part where Jooha passed out for sure but technically dooshik was still in Jooha, if he put it back in then ur right
You’re right but he never took it out in the first place, it’s closer to cockwarming than something like rape. But I do get what you mean
It’s hardcore sex, read the chapter. He was just feeling “too good” not to mention he doesn’t remember being with a man like that
Bro he said stop. It doesn't matter if he was feeling good or not. Stop is stop. He withdrew consent. Hardcore sex is still consensual. This wasn't.
Sure whatever it’s not that deep, he did like it, he just couldn’t handle it since he lost his memories
Pfft.. Bro, don't bother. Kids these days use terms and make new definitions of it as if it's not a word that already exists in the dictionary.
It isn't that deep so you should admit it was tape anf go on with your day instead of making excuses for fictional characters who won't thank you <3
Says the person who doesn’t know what rape, like u said it’s fictional so who tf cares
Dumb bitch i care so that the minors in this site don't get the wrong idea. You can read as much r@pe fetish shlt as you like.
You're doing the right thing. Minors can be so easily influenced and these rapist supporters will never stop being gross.
Thank you for understanding
Yeah no minor is listening to you bro, who even are you?
Bro you're so weird hop off my dick fr
You're welcome. I've been doing the same thing for a while.
You're crossing the line, there. If you want to make a point, do so. But don't go name-calling people just to prove it.
If you guys want to raise awareness what's a potential rape is, good for you.
If we want to emphasize not to describe lightly the word rape over every single non-con scenario you interpret as, we're not pro-rape idealist.
Know the difference when we're trying to say not to downgrade that act of assault lightly. If you equate the scenarios, where, 1) the person was out of nowhere dragged at the back of the alley and was forced to sex, to 2) a person responding to the kiss of their crush which eventually led to a steamy intercourse, you're downgrading the assault case.
I'm not saying it's okay to not listen to your partner, what I'm saying is don't use the rape lightly. Take into consideration when you're going to use that. Because sometimes it can be misinterpreted as well, like, "you can initiate seducing other people but when you find you can't handle it, you'll blame the other person and play the victim since by then you would call it 'rape'." That scenario will cause psychological impact as well to the other person, no? Therefore, know when to drop that word if you want to educate minors. It's not a light topic to tackle on. There's two-sides of everything, so it'll really take a whole lot of proper explanation and understanding. Additionally, again, let's not equate those people or scenarios who have really experienced true assault, over some chapters of a smut story where there characters weren't even estranged in the first place. .
Besides, this is nonfic we're all reading here. Try to be mature and accept concepts like these exists. You're still reading the piece, aren't you?
Idk your circumstances but if you withdraw consent in the middle of intercourse and the other person is still going it's not SA it is rape. It doesn't matter who seduced who. We are humans not animals. Glazing over rape is never ok. It was not just some little groping.
I don't believe I am crossing any lines at all nor am I downgrading the act of assault/rape. If anything, that seems to be something you're doing.
Why do you think having your feelings ignored by the person you trust and being forced to continue sex is less rapey than being dragged into the alley way and raped by a stranger? They're both just different forms of rape and I can't say which one is worse than the other, though I do agree that there are different levels of rape/assault severity.
If you're not pro-rape, ask yourself why you feel the need to defend people who do it, fictional or not? True maturity is understanding that portrayal of problematic themes is there to be assessed and criticised readers. I don't hate the author for writing this story but I do hate when one of their creations is written out of character, like Dooshik was. Plus I'm not reading the story for the rapists, I'm reading it for the plot, art, etc.
Hope that gives you some food for thought.
I agree with everything you said. I don't have a problem with people reading rape but trying to paint as something it's not is gross. If you an adult and you read that kind of stuff the least you can do is have self awareness over what you're consuming and admit it is morally questionable. That is where true maturity is.
But you're the one implying that it's not rape though?
Bro you confused us... I'm not that person look again...
Ooop you're right! I'm so sorry
I was wondering why they suddenly changed their stance
Ask yourself why you need to name call people only to prove your point? You didn't even apologize. If you're here for the plot, I am too. And I understand that the plot has always been messed up. If you're here for it too, then why question everything until now? And why point out people who understand the plot is as thick as a mud? When you yourself is out here reading it? Or is it that you just want to make it look like you're better than us as human being?
Food for a thought, too, an argument or discussion can be healthy as long as you don't start pointing the hate towards the other party. Name call all you want about the topic, but never the person, a human being like you, about it. You labeling other people doesn't make your objectives and perspectives look reasonable.
That's just been the point I was pushing when inserted my thoughts here. If you can't realize labeling people isn't okay, then, you do you. I'm not self-righteous myself, just want to point out why you can't handle conversations without labeling other people as if you know them too well. We're here for the topic, not the identity of the person reading this behind a screen. Muting this now.
Not sure why you're offended by rape apologists being called rape apologists (unless you are one?). I won't ever apologise for that. Not because I think I'm better than anyone else but because it's disgusting to make excuses for rapists or deny that what they are doing is rape.
The rest of your comment doesn't make much sense anyway because it's got nothing to do with my original comment. Enjoy your mute time .
The way that person said nothing about your valid points and just reflected goodbye
Right?
Minors shouldn’t even be on this site in the first place, ur morals are in the wrong place bestie xx
Sure minors shouldn't be around but they're. But if you. As an adult. Can't understand what they read is rape you're just immature and you shouldn't be around either. Read whatever you like but if you aren't mature enough to know what you read you shouldn't be reading it.