Hahahha me too, also those who are painting Chase’s parents as red flags like dude come on read the whole “If you can” novel series to know better about the whole Miller family.
Hahahha me too, also those who are painting Chase’s parents as red flags like dude come on read the whole “If you can” novel series to know better about the whole Miller family. Ano nga sayo
Hahahha me too, also those who are painting Chase’s parents as red flags like dude come on read the whole “If you can” novel series to know better about the whole Miller family. Ano nga sayo
Well chase's parents, ash and koi, is not really red flags, take their high school days for example really cute, but being parents... Yeah... I'm fact I'm still siding on the "ash got brain dmg coz of pheromones" blah blah for his treatment with his kids, but after reading deflower, not so much anymore
Yes they are. So far in all ZIG’s novel Chase’s parent’s story is my favorite.
There’s a reason why Chase grew cold from them. Greyson is not entirely bad too. There’s a reason why he does what he did.
Chase’s parents love started when they were really young like 11th grade. They both from different social status. Their omega father is extremely poor and their alpha father of course is really rich and popular. Their alpha father was the first one to fall in love. He pursued their omega father (back then they thought that their omega father was a Beta and not Omega.) their alpha father presented as a dominant alpha but not matter how much pheromones he poured to their omega father he just won’t turn into one. Their alpha father was taken to pheromones party to have secs to release pheromones but he refused (they were already dating here) the father of their father realized that his son was serious with the Beta so he had them separated. They tried to eloped but their omega father learned that his father is dying so he didn’t go to the train station to eloped with their alpha father.
10 years passed and their omega father followed their alpha father to win him back (he’s still a beta here) well their alpha father was already a famous lawyer by that time. Well a lot of things happened so they got back together. Their omega father didn’t know that their alpha father has been plotting a revenge against their omega father for 10 years now. Well since he loves him so much and can’t bare to hurt him physically the form of revenge he plotted was to hurt himself (self harm, he remembered Koi telling him that it hurts him when Ashley abuses himself.) so Ashley(Name of the Alpha father) intentionally didn’t released pheromones for 10 years to damaged his own brain. Repeated pheromones build up did damage his brain which killed his limbic system the part of the brain that regulates emotions. The damaged was so severe that there’s no way to cure it and that it will only progresses. Well Koi was able to learned it when Ashley had a pheromone shock.
Well it ended happily because Koi turned out to be an extreme dominant omega (he was able to extract Ashley’s pheromones at will) and it stop his brain from continuous damaged. The thing is the children inherited all the damaged he inflicted to himself. A union between extreme dominant omega and an extreme dominant alphas, guarantees extreme offsprings. That’s the reason why all siblings are all extremes. This is also the reason why an extreme dominant omega are the ultimate dream of an extreme dominant alpha. But regardless of traits Ashley has been in love with Koi even during the time when they thought he’s a Beta.
That’s why all their children has little to no emotions. Greyson has no emotions that’s the reason he is like that. They have total of 6 children Koi and Ashley.
Nathaniel Miller - he presenter before he turned 10
Greyson and Stacy Miller - both presented at birth
Chase Miller - presented in his teenage years that’s why he has more emotions than the other siblings.
Larien Miller - Presented at birth has almost no emotions too.
Bliss Miller - the only extreme dominant omega in the family.
All 5 children are extreme dominant alphas and 1 extreme dominant omega.
Well chase's parents, ash and koi, is not really red flags, take their high school days for example really cute, but being parents... Yeah... I'm fact I'm still siding on the "ash got brain dmg coz of pheromone... Lily
Just a little treat from their parents POV
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The memories of his children gave Koi the strength to endure. That's why even when Chase was the first to move out and never contacted him once, he endured and waited. When Nathaniel was called the devil of the legal world and made all of North America tremble in fear, when Grayson caused scandals day in and day out saying he was looking for true love, when rumors spread that Stacy was a pervert, when Chase was called a mad dog and made people in the industry cry out, when Larien committed fraud and became a wanted fugitive, Koi believed. My children will surely meet good people who understand them and become happy. he thought. During that time, Ashley handed over the law firm to the eldest, Nathaniel, and entered politics. So when they finally heard the news that Chase, the most sensitive and hurt child among them, was getting married, the Miller family was in a great uproar for the first time in a long time.
And as if that were the beginning, the brothers left one by one to find their partners. Koi blessed them with a joyful heart and loved them all unconditionally. Until finally, only Grayson was left. "Grayson said he wants to be a firefighter?" At the news he heard one day, Koi asked in surprise. Ashley gave a slight nod and answered with his usual indifference. "He's an adult, so he has to take responsibility for his own actions." That was true. Grayson's recent actions were difficult to defend, even for Koi. "This will be a good lesson for Grayson too." If he helps others and gets along with them, maybe he'll change too. Koi deliberately made a light joke. "Who knows, maybe the fate Grayson is looking for is there”
At Koi's wish, Ashley gave a short laugh. As if there was no way that would happen. "If he stops his futile efforts, that would be a good thing too." At the invariably sarcastic remark, Koi gave an awkward smile. Grayson had never worked a day in his life. He had traded stocks or invested in companies with the family's money a few times, but it was closer to a pastime, and he had never done physical labor. "Anyway, since he wants it so much, I hope it comes true. Like the other kids." Ashley, who had been sitting at the tea table drinking tea, put down his teacup and looked up at Koi. At his smiling face, Ashley said nothing and pulled him by the waist. Koi, who naturally sat on his lap, wrapped his arms around Ashley's neck and said.
"I wonder what kind of person Grayson's partner will be, I'm excited." Ashley had no expectations at all, but instead of saying so, he kissed Koi's lips. "I love you, Koi." Koi also smiled and closed his eyes. Ashley's hand naturally caressed Koi's thigh and went up to grip his buttock.
Well chase's parents, ash and koi, is not really red flags, take their high school days for example really cute, but being parents... Yeah... I'm fact I'm still siding on the "ash got brain dmg coz of pheromone... Lily
I’m reading Deflower me if you can and it is funny as f. Well Bliss is Ash’s favorite amongst them since he is the only one who resembles Koi. Also Ash still has his emotions intact during their high school days. Only for him to f-it up just to get Koi. Koi placed his trust to Ash which we all know is in competition even to his own children for Koi’s attention but not stupid enough to compete for his love because Ash knows fully that Koi only loves him and the children. He still cares about them even in his f-up damaged emotions.
Just a little treat from their parents POVREAD AT YOUR OWN RISKThe memories of his children gave Koi the strength to endure. That's why even when Chase was the first to move out and never contacted him once,he ... Ano nga sayo
I appreciate this and it did made more certain on my take... I never doubted Koi's love for his kids, I know he loves them dearly, I am aware that none of them really have great parental figures... I always been neutral about them because of their circumstances, that's why I said earlier I accepted the reason for Ash's treatment to his kids on him fking up his head due to pheromone, past traumas, and that cake detergent incident, understandable... But after Deflower me, Bliss' story, I can't believe ash can be that freaking sweet to his kid like WOW that man really hates his own kind huh... I am not saying this just for Chase, it's also for Nathaniel and Grayson (we barely know anything about Stacy and Larien sooo skipping them) all of them were affected in one way or another
"they tried their best" "they did what they can" unfortunately it's still not enough and look how they all turned out (except for bliss), even in Desire me, Koi even told Ash that they should just admit their mistake in raising them... I by no means saying they are some absolute terrible characters, Dominic's literally there lol, and I don't hate them!! Tbh I'm even sad for Koi, who really longed for a happy family, had his turn out this way... But he also contributed to this, that scene where he tried comforting chase made me... raise a brow a bit... It made me even realize that they should've only had Nath like what Ash wanted in the first place, one child, but Koi wanted at least 3, and they can't really handle all of them, their first mistake
I appreciate this and it did made more certain on my take... I never doubted Koi's love for his kids, I know he loves them dearly, I am aware that none of them really have great parental figures... I always bee... Lily
Well it is not just his kids but literally everyone around Koi even when he still hadn’t f-up his own brain. Remember what he did to Bill his own best friend just because Koi wiped that letuce off his chin? Like what Al said Ashley loses all reasons when Koi is involved. He’s always the exception and it only got worst when he fried his own brain just to get Koi back to him.
Well they still managed to try their best even with his f-up brain damaged. It’s not like he totally let go of his kids after they are off legal age because the whole family has centralized security system even though all 6 were already adults and making their own money. Ashley and Koi still look after them. I think that says a lot. Remember when Ashley thought that Greyson SA’d Dane and he was like negotiating with him? When he flew to the West just to check on Greyson? When all his children has tracking devices and own security team that reports to Ashley. Those kids are no longer children but in their own way even though it is F-up those two still look after them. Considering that most parents has little care for their own children once they are off legal age.
Yes they are. So far in all ZIG’s novel Chase’s parent’s story is my favorite.There’s a reason why Chase grew cold from them. Greyson is not entirely bad too. There’s a reason why he does what he did.... Ano nga sayo
No, the problem with the children was the early manifestation, that has iirc nothing to do with Ashley's braindamage. Ashley's braindamage was a reason why he couldn't controle fertility of his sperms and that he couldn't mark Koi. And Ashley saw his childrens as rivial when it came to Koi. He also became very strict with his children when it came to releasing pheromones. But they did mistakes raising them, doesn't mean that Ashley didn't succeeded in even getting Grayson under controle, but still things could have been better.
Well it is not just his kids but literally everyone around Koi even when he still hadn’t f-up his own brain. Remember what he did to Bill his own best friend just because Koi wiped that letuce off his chin? L... Ano nga sayo
Well I do agree with what you said... But what irks me is the fact that due to Ash prejudices, he almost never bothered considering the opposite, like you said Ash thought Grayson SA'd Dane, but what happened is the opposite. Ash never really appointed bodyguards to Grayson like with the others because he thinks Grayson most likely will hurt others instead of other people hurting him, even though Grayson never truly hurt someone (in his adulthood at least) unless it's self defence. He never bothered considering Chase might be different than his siblings, so he assumed he's the same, but turns out it was the opposite again, if only he did not take Koi away from Chase, and after all that he's actually capable of being an actual parent as long as they're not like him (Dom alpha and looks like him)? This might be the reason I'm a bit 50/50 on them, more on Ash tbh, I don't hate them but I don't love love them either... Probably the consequences of starting with their kid's story before them maybe idk probably????
No, the problem with the children was the early manifestation, that has iirc nothing to do with Ashley's braindamage. Ashley's braindamage was a reason why he couldn't controle fertility of his sperms and that ... Toru
He did Marked Koi on their wedding night. But Koi couldn’t mark him due to the brain damage, also the fertility is accurate, the brain damage did damage his ability to control fertility that’s also why they ended up with 6 children but early manifestations is also one of the reasons why the children have less to no emotions. Also they inherited Ashley’s unusually high pheromones production that is one of the side effects of his brain damage. It was said in Greyson story and Nathaniel’s that’s why Nathaniel said that it is their family’s cardinal rule to frequently release pheromones compared to other extreme dominant alphas. The reason why the children can only see Koi when he’s with Ashley is because their perception of right and wrong are all eff-up because of their inability to understand emotions. The incident where Greyson and Stacy almost killed Koi and that none of them including Nathaniel even called for help. All 3 children just watched Koi with curiosity as he almost died.
Knowing how much Ashley loves Koi that person will not gamble for a second chance with their children. The only thing he can do is to managed those children. Prior to the incident he lets the children have Koi for the weekdays and have him to himself when he returns home and all weekends. That’s how it is before the incident but after that ad soon as Ashley leaves for work all children are given to the nannies. Koi can’t even spend more than 30 minutes alone with them because of that. Even after the kids grow up same rules applied. Ashley only became lenient when they started showing emotions (In Greyson story he let Koi visit Greyson alone)
Chase is a no can do since the child has deep hatred towards his own family.
Nathaniel is still indifferent (he still figuring out emotions even at the end of his own novel even after accepting Chrissy
Well Bliss is the only child amongst the siblings who Ashley shows a little favor since he resembles Koi a lot.
Well I do agree with what you said... But what irks me is the fact that due to Ash prejudices, he almost never bothered considering the opposite, like you said Ash thought Grayson SA'd Dane, but what happened i... Lily
Well I do agree with you on this, I also don’t want to take away the fact that Ashley’s environment when growing up. Remember his POV after the incident where Koi almost died and he decided to take away the kids omega parent away from them? He said that it is fine, he realized his father’s discipline is not wrong after all since he himself was not even embraced by his omega birth parent (Juliet). He himself admitted when he spoken to Greyson that he and Dominic are the same. He assumed that all his children not just Greyson but specially Greyson took more after Dominic. Even after all those years Ashley is still haunted by him, can’t even listen to Romeo and Juliet because of him.
I wonder if Domimic didn’t eff up nor Juliet didn’t eff up Dominic and sealed his fate. Maybe Ashley would have turned up for the better. Anyways the kids have found someone who understands them. Probably not Larien because she’s still in a poly relationship and in the wanted list.
Well Miller family is a one crazy family in ZIG’s Omegaverse but the most OP of all families.
They have a total of 6 extreme alphas and 2 extreme dominant omegas. Once Greyson marries Dane they’ll have 3 extreme dominant omegas.
Their story is more interesting than all the “Kiss Me series.” Which by the way revolves more in a sick abusive, filled with SA’d kind of way.
Dang the only light story in that series if Kiss me Liar, the rest are just so dark beginning with Kiss the Scumbag, Kiss my grit and Kiss me stranger. And now we will have Kiss me Villains which is Angel’s story with the 5 Alphas who kidnapped him and forced him to bear them children. This is ty reason why Kieth Knight Pittman has 4 other half siblings.
He did Marked Koi on their wedding night. But Koi couldn’t mark him due to the brain damage, also the fertility is accurate, the brain damage did damage his ability to control fertility that’s also why they... Ano nga sayo
No, they didn't inherit the high pheromone production from Ashley, that is something typical for born manifested dominant alphas. And Ashley wasn't a born manifested. Originally I think that the only born manifested Millers were Grayson and probably his twinsister. I don't think that Larien originally was one. If you compare what is written in LMUIYC extras and DMIYC, some things in Deflower don't make sense.
No, they didn't inherit the high pheromone production from Ashley, that is something typical for born manifested dominant alphas. And Ashley wasn't a born manifested.Originally I think that the only born manife... Toru
Well all stories have loopholes, but it was both said in DMIYC and in RAIYC that the children inherited it. Their pheromone levels are much higher than of those extreme dominant alphas. This is also why Koi told Dane that the children were special. I’ll try to find that, I read DMIYC like thrice now so I am certain of it. Ashley also said in LMUIYC that it seems like it was a punishment that his children had inherited his phenotype intact that his self harm had brought it as punishment. However he doesn’t regret it since he got Koi in return. There are parts in the DFMIYC that doesn’t make sense but I pass it up as loopholes in the story specially since it is common in serialize stories like this. Sample the fact that Cassian’s family are aware of Koi’s traits but in DMIYC, RAIYC, and even in LMUIYC Ashley was so strict in not telling that Koi is an extreme dominant omega but suddenly Cassian’s family had this knowledge. Or the fact that people has little to no knowledge of how Koi looks like nor his name when he was on News when he attended a party because people were curious on who Ashley Miller married. Also remember the scene in RAIYC when Chrissy and Koi met? He saw Koi and immediately took a liking to him since he is his type but failed to Noticed his mark on his ear but in KML and KMIYC both Chase and Kieth’s mark were seen far away. Those things, I just simply pass it up as some minor loopholes I guess, still I enjoyed reading them. RAIYC was just a major disappointment for me. It felt rushed and a waste of money. Even bought the chapters from Ridibooks. It felt like the author just gave up half way of the story and decided to end it. Took a break from reading DFMIYC because of my disappointment of RAIYC. I’ll probably pick it up again after I’m done sulking with RAWIYC.
Well I do agree with you on this, I also don’t want to take away the fact that Ashley’s environment when growing up. Remember his POV after the incident where Koi almost died and he decided to take away the... Ano nga sayo
Mhm, if we really trace back who's the real perpetrator in all of this mess, in the millers, was the grandparents... There's so many what if scenarios for them. Well tbf, as fcked up as their family is, the more endearing and interesting they are actually, yeah starting with good and healthy fam is nice, but with them it's hard not to be curious, like why tf are all of them like this lol the very reason why I got so invested on them
I'm really interested with angel's out of all the kiss me series, his 5 alphas situation interest me, and now that you pointed it out, KML does seem the lightest one so far in the kiss me series... I'll cut KML some slack since it's one of the oldest in Zig's omegaverse iirc haha
Also isn't kiss the scumbag, kiss my grits and kiss the stranger don't belong in the kiss me series? They're in the same universe as if you can and kiss me, but kiss me is about angel and his kids? Like if you can is about the millers? Correct me if I'm wrong tho
Well all stories have loopholes, but it was both said in DMIYC and in RAIYC that the children inherited it. Their pheromone levels are much higher than of those extreme dominant alphas. This is also why Koi tol... Ano nga sayo
Deflower seems to be like the one with the most loopholes imo, makes you wonder if zig keeps notes on her previously established canon, or she's thinking of some retcons... Well whatever it is, I'll still read it, but the more I read reviews/comments about RAIYC the more skeptical I am to read it, the fact that I really like their premise out of every millers... That's sad to hear
Deflower seems to be like the one with the most loopholes imo, makes you wonder if zig keeps notes on her previously established canon, or she's thinking of some retcons... Well whatever it is, I'll still read ... Lily
RAIYC is promising but as the story went on the chemistry start disappearing. It felt like Zig was trying to recreate EMUIYC but making it a happy ending. Chrissy is a Beta, there was a scene there where he tied Chrissy like a dog in a small room with no windows. Then he explained that room was originally there and was specifically built by the original owner. There are only two people who knows about the existence of that room aside from him and he said that they were all dead. If you read EMUIYC you’ll instantly know that room was where Dominic kept Ashley (Juliet) and SA’d him till he mutated to an Omega. Well Nathaniel didn’t SA’d Chrissy he’s just playing with him. But still, it is like trying to redeem EMUIYC series with RAIYC. Till the end Nathaniel didn’t mutate Chrissy even though he can. Well Chrissy kind of hinted that he is willing is just that his past traumas are keeping him and Nathaniel understands it. Also all that thrilled and mystery they tried to build up in the story died down in just 3 last chapters when Zig tried to wrapped everything up in just 3 chapters. It is like Zig completely give up on the story to focus on DFMIYC not that I’m complaining though since Bliss’s story is more interesting now than of Nathaniel’s. The two bickers and always at each other’s throats a lot that it makes you wonder if they truly love each other. Though the thing I uploaded Zig in that story is Nathaniel didn’t outright said he’s in love with Chrissy.
Spoiler……
When Chrissy asked why Nathaniel went as far as killing his adopted father. Nathaniel went on like “I don’t know, maybe this is love.”
Nathaniel is still clueless but figuring out his feelings with Chrissy. They ended up together at the end with Chrissy remaining as a Beta. I don’t have any complaints with him being a Beta is just the ending felt rushed. The whole series only has 114 chapters I think while most of Zig’s novels lasted up to 200+ chapters. So it was really disappointing. I got frustrated with KML, KTS, KMG and specially KMS but never disappointed in them. Well I almost pulled out my hair in KMS when Yohan forgave Karam in the end. Like dude! Your husband who forgot about you and abused you suddenly showed up with his memories and you forgave him instantly?
This is the reason why I like Yuta from Pearl Boy ignite the dawn he doesn’t give in easily. They need to learn from him, play hard to get! Just like how Ashley did to Koi, he played hard to get with Koi when Koi was chasing after him hahahaha. Never seen an Omega chase after their alpha and doing all the soothing.
Lmfao as a novel readers, i found these cmt claiming Chase is a red flag and Joshua is a green flag is so funny and cute. Not even close, babe
Hahahha me too, also those who are painting Chase’s parents as red flags like dude come on read the whole “If you can” novel series to know better about the whole Miller family.
are his parents good people??
Well chase's parents, ash and koi, is not really red flags, take their high school days for example really cute, but being parents... Yeah... I'm fact I'm still siding on the "ash got brain dmg coz of pheromones" blah blah for his treatment with his kids, but after reading deflower, not so much anymore
Yes they are. So far in all ZIG’s novel Chase’s parent’s story is my favorite.
There’s a reason why Chase grew cold from them. Greyson is not entirely bad too. There’s a reason why he does what he did.
Chase’s parents love started when they were really young like 11th grade. They both from different social status. Their omega father is extremely poor and their alpha father of course is really rich and popular. Their alpha father was the first one to fall in love. He pursued their omega father (back then they thought that their omega father was a Beta and not Omega.) their alpha father presented as a dominant alpha but not matter how much pheromones he poured to their omega father he just won’t turn into one. Their alpha father was taken to pheromones party to have secs to release pheromones but he refused (they were already dating here) the father of their father realized that his son was serious with the Beta so he had them separated. They tried to eloped but their omega father learned that his father is dying so he didn’t go to the train station to eloped with their alpha father.
10 years passed and their omega father followed their alpha father to win him back (he’s still a beta here) well their alpha father was already a famous lawyer by that time. Well a lot of things happened so they got back together. Their omega father didn’t know that their alpha father has been plotting a revenge against their omega father for 10 years now. Well since he loves him so much and can’t bare to hurt him physically the form of revenge he plotted was to hurt himself (self harm, he remembered Koi telling him that it hurts him when Ashley abuses himself.) so Ashley(Name of the Alpha father) intentionally didn’t released pheromones for 10 years to damaged his own brain. Repeated pheromones build up did damage his brain which killed his limbic system the part of the brain that regulates emotions. The damaged was so severe that there’s no way to cure it and that it will only progresses. Well Koi was able to learned it when Ashley had a pheromone shock.
Well it ended happily because Koi turned out to be an extreme dominant omega (he was able to extract Ashley’s pheromones at will) and it stop his brain from continuous damaged. The thing is the children inherited all the damaged he inflicted to himself. A union between extreme dominant omega and an extreme dominant alphas, guarantees extreme offsprings. That’s the reason why all siblings are all extremes. This is also the reason why an extreme dominant omega are the ultimate dream of an extreme dominant alpha. But regardless of traits Ashley has been in love with Koi even during the time when they thought he’s a Beta.
That’s why all their children has little to no emotions. Greyson has no emotions that’s the reason he is like that. They have total of 6 children Koi and Ashley.
Nathaniel Miller - he presenter before he turned 10
Greyson and Stacy Miller - both presented at birth
Chase Miller - presented in his teenage years that’s why he has more emotions than the other siblings.
Larien Miller - Presented at birth has almost no emotions too.
Bliss Miller - the only extreme dominant omega in the family.
All 5 children are extreme dominant alphas and 1 extreme dominant omega.
Just a little treat from their parents POV
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The memories of his children gave Koi the strength to endure. That's why even when Chase was the first to move out and never contacted him once,
he endured and waited. When Nathaniel was called the devil of the legal world and made all of North America tremble in fear, when Grayson caused scandals day in and day out saying he was looking for true love, when rumors spread that Stacy was a pervert, when Chase was called a mad dog and made people in the industry cry out, when Larien committed fraud and became a wanted fugitive, Koi believed. My children will surely meet good people who understand them and become happy.
he thought.
During that time, Ashley handed over the law firm to the eldest, Nathaniel, and entered politics. So when they finally heard the news that Chase, the most sensitive and hurt child among them, was getting married, the Miller family was in a great uproar for the first time in a long time.
And as if that were the beginning, the brothers left one by one to find their partners. Koi blessed them with a joyful heart and loved them all unconditionally.
Until finally, only Grayson was left.
"Grayson said he wants to be a firefighter?"
At the news he heard one day, Koi asked in surprise. Ashley gave a slight nod and answered with his usual indifference.
"He's an adult, so he has to take responsibility for his own actions."
That was true. Grayson's recent actions were difficult to defend, even for Koi.
"This will be a good lesson for Grayson too."
If he helps others and gets along with them, maybe he'll change too. Koi deliberately made a light joke.
"Who knows, maybe the fate Grayson is looking for is there”
At Koi's wish, Ashley gave a short laugh. As if there was no way that would happen.
"If he stops his futile efforts, that would be a good thing too."
At the invariably sarcastic remark, Koi gave an awkward smile.
Grayson had never worked a day in his life. He had traded stocks or invested in companies with the
family's money a few times, but it was closer to a pastime, and he had never done physical labor.
"Anyway, since he wants it so much, I hope it comes true. Like the other kids."
Ashley, who had been sitting at the tea table drinking tea, put down his teacup and looked up at Koi. At his smiling face, Ashley said nothing and pulled him by the waist. Koi, who naturally sat on his lap, wrapped his arms around Ashley's neck and said.
"I wonder what kind of person Grayson's partner will be, I'm excited."
Ashley had no expectations at all, but instead of saying so, he kissed Koi's lips.
"I love you, Koi."
Koi also smiled and closed his eyes. Ashley's hand naturally caressed Koi's thigh and went up to grip his buttock.
I’m reading Deflower me if you can and it is funny as f. Well Bliss is Ash’s favorite amongst them since he is the only one who resembles Koi. Also Ash still has his emotions intact during their high school days. Only for him to f-it up just to get Koi. Koi placed his trust to Ash which we all know is in competition even to his own children for Koi’s attention but not stupid enough to compete for his love because Ash knows fully that Koi only loves him and the children. He still cares about them even in his f-up damaged emotions.
I appreciate this and it did made more certain on my take... I never doubted Koi's love for his kids, I know he loves them dearly, I am aware that none of them really have great parental figures... I always been neutral about them because of their circumstances, that's why I said earlier I accepted the reason for Ash's treatment to his kids on him fking up his head due to pheromone, past traumas, and that cake detergent incident, understandable... But after Deflower me, Bliss' story, I can't believe ash can be that freaking sweet to his kid like WOW that man really hates his own kind huh... I am not saying this just for Chase, it's also for Nathaniel and Grayson (we barely know anything about Stacy and Larien sooo skipping them) all of them were affected in one way or another
"they tried their best" "they did what they can" unfortunately it's still not enough and look how they all turned out (except for bliss), even in Desire me, Koi even told Ash that they should just admit their mistake in raising them... I by no means saying they are some absolute terrible characters, Dominic's literally there lol, and I don't hate them!! Tbh I'm even sad for Koi, who really longed for a happy family, had his turn out this way... But he also contributed to this, that scene where he tried comforting chase made me... raise a brow a bit... It made me even realize that they should've only had Nath like what Ash wanted in the first place, one child, but Koi wanted at least 3, and they can't really handle all of them, their first mistake
Well it is not just his kids but literally everyone around Koi even when he still hadn’t f-up his own brain. Remember what he did to Bill his own best friend just because Koi wiped that letuce off his chin? Like what Al said Ashley loses all reasons when Koi is involved. He’s always the exception and it only got worst when he fried his own brain just to get Koi back to him.
Well they still managed to try their best even with his f-up brain damaged. It’s not like he totally let go of his kids after they are off legal age because the whole family has centralized security system even though all 6 were already adults and making their own money. Ashley and Koi still look after them. I think that says a lot. Remember when Ashley thought that Greyson SA’d Dane and he was like negotiating with him? When he flew to the West just to check on Greyson? When all his children has tracking devices and own security team that reports to Ashley. Those kids are no longer children but in their own way even though it is
F-up those two still look after them. Considering that most parents has little care for their own children once they are off legal age.
No, the problem with the children was the early manifestation, that has iirc nothing to do with Ashley's braindamage. Ashley's braindamage was a reason why he couldn't controle fertility of his sperms and that he couldn't mark Koi. And Ashley saw his childrens as rivial when it came to Koi.
He also became very strict with his children when it came to releasing pheromones.
But they did mistakes raising them, doesn't mean that Ashley didn't succeeded in even getting Grayson under controle, but still things could have been better.
Well I do agree with what you said... But what irks me is the fact that due to Ash prejudices, he almost never bothered considering the opposite, like you said Ash thought Grayson SA'd Dane, but what happened is the opposite. Ash never really appointed bodyguards to Grayson like with the others because he thinks Grayson most likely will hurt others instead of other people hurting him, even though Grayson never truly hurt someone (in his adulthood at least) unless it's self defence. He never bothered considering Chase might be different than his siblings, so he assumed he's the same, but turns out it was the opposite again, if only he did not take Koi away from Chase, and after all that he's actually capable of being an actual parent as long as they're not like him (Dom alpha and looks like him)? This might be the reason I'm a bit 50/50 on them, more on Ash tbh, I don't hate them but I don't love love them either... Probably the consequences of starting with their kid's story before them maybe idk probably????
He did Marked Koi on their wedding night. But Koi couldn’t mark him due to the brain damage, also the fertility is accurate, the brain damage did damage his ability to control fertility that’s also why they ended up with 6 children but early manifestations is also one of the reasons why the children have less to no emotions. Also they inherited Ashley’s unusually high pheromones production that is one of the side effects of his brain damage. It was said in Greyson story and Nathaniel’s that’s why Nathaniel said that it is their family’s cardinal rule to frequently release pheromones compared to other extreme dominant alphas. The reason why the children can only see Koi when he’s with Ashley is because their perception of right and wrong are all eff-up because of their inability to understand emotions. The incident where Greyson and Stacy almost killed Koi and that none of them including Nathaniel even called for help. All 3 children just watched Koi with curiosity as he almost died.
Knowing how much Ashley loves Koi that person will not gamble for a second chance with their children. The only thing he can do is to managed those children. Prior to the incident he lets the children have Koi for the weekdays and have him to himself when he returns home and all weekends. That’s how it is before the incident but after that ad soon as Ashley leaves for work all children are given to the nannies. Koi can’t even spend more than 30 minutes alone with them because of that. Even after the kids grow up same rules applied. Ashley only became lenient when they started showing emotions (In Greyson story he let Koi visit Greyson alone)
Chase is a no can do since the child has deep hatred towards his own family.
Nathaniel is still indifferent (he still figuring out emotions even at the end of his own novel even after accepting Chrissy
Well Bliss is the only child amongst the siblings who Ashley shows a little favor since he resembles Koi a lot.
Well I do agree with you on this, I also don’t want to take away the fact that Ashley’s environment when growing up. Remember his POV after the incident where Koi almost died and he decided to take away the kids omega parent away from them? He said that it is fine, he realized his father’s discipline is not wrong after all since he himself was not even embraced by his omega birth parent (Juliet). He himself admitted when he spoken to Greyson that he and Dominic are the same. He assumed that all his children not just Greyson but specially Greyson took more after Dominic. Even after all those years Ashley is still haunted by him, can’t even listen to Romeo and Juliet because of him.
I wonder if Domimic didn’t eff up nor Juliet didn’t eff up Dominic and sealed his fate. Maybe Ashley would have turned up for the better. Anyways the kids have found someone who understands them. Probably not Larien because she’s still in a poly relationship and in the wanted list.
Well Miller family is a one crazy family in ZIG’s Omegaverse but the most OP of all families.
They have a total of 6 extreme alphas and 2 extreme dominant omegas. Once Greyson marries Dane they’ll have 3 extreme dominant omegas.
Their story is more interesting than all the “Kiss Me series.” Which by the way revolves more in a sick abusive, filled with SA’d kind of way.
Dang the only light story in that series if Kiss me Liar, the rest are just so dark beginning with Kiss the Scumbag, Kiss my grit and Kiss me stranger. And now we will have Kiss me Villains which is Angel’s story with the 5 Alphas who kidnapped him and forced him to bear them children. This is ty reason why Kieth Knight Pittman has 4 other half siblings.
No, they didn't inherit the high pheromone production from Ashley, that is something typical for born manifested dominant alphas. And Ashley wasn't a born manifested.
Originally I think that the only born manifested Millers were Grayson and probably his twinsister.
I don't think that Larien originally was one. If you compare what is written in LMUIYC extras and DMIYC, some things in Deflower don't make sense.
Well all stories have loopholes, but it was both said in DMIYC and in RAIYC that the children inherited it. Their pheromone levels are much higher than of those extreme dominant alphas. This is also why Koi told Dane that the children were special. I’ll try to find that, I read DMIYC like thrice now so I am certain of it. Ashley also said in LMUIYC that it seems like it was a punishment that his children had inherited his phenotype intact that his self harm had brought it as punishment. However he doesn’t regret it since he got Koi in return. There are parts in the DFMIYC that doesn’t make sense but I pass it up as loopholes in the story specially since it is common in serialize stories like this. Sample the fact that Cassian’s family are aware of Koi’s traits but in DMIYC, RAIYC, and even in LMUIYC Ashley was so strict in not telling that Koi is an extreme dominant omega but suddenly Cassian’s family had this knowledge. Or the fact that people has little to no knowledge of how Koi looks like nor his name when he was on News when he attended a party because people were curious on who Ashley Miller married. Also remember the scene in RAIYC when Chrissy and Koi met? He saw Koi and immediately took a liking to him since he is his type but failed to
Noticed his mark on his ear but in KML and KMIYC both Chase and Kieth’s mark were seen far away. Those things, I just simply pass it up as some minor loopholes I guess, still I enjoyed reading them. RAIYC was just a major disappointment for me. It felt rushed and a waste of money. Even bought the chapters from Ridibooks. It felt like the author just gave up half way of the story and decided to end it. Took a break from reading DFMIYC because of my disappointment of RAIYC. I’ll probably pick it up again after I’m done sulking with RAWIYC.
Mhm, if we really trace back who's the real perpetrator in all of this mess, in the millers, was the grandparents... There's so many what if scenarios for them. Well tbf, as fcked up as their family is, the more endearing and interesting they are actually, yeah starting with good and healthy fam is nice, but with them it's hard not to be curious, like why tf are all of them like this lol the very reason why I got so invested on them
I'm really interested with angel's out of all the kiss me series, his 5 alphas situation interest me, and now that you pointed it out, KML does seem the lightest one so far in the kiss me series... I'll cut KML some slack since it's one of the oldest in Zig's omegaverse iirc haha
Also isn't kiss the scumbag, kiss my grits and kiss the stranger don't belong in the kiss me series? They're in the same universe as if you can and kiss me, but kiss me is about angel and his kids? Like if you can is about the millers? Correct me if I'm wrong tho
Deflower seems to be like the one with the most loopholes imo, makes you wonder if zig keeps notes on her previously established canon, or she's thinking of some retcons... Well whatever it is, I'll still read it, but the more I read reviews/comments about RAIYC the more skeptical I am to read it, the fact that I really like their premise out of every millers... That's sad to hear
RAIYC is promising but as the story went on the chemistry start disappearing. It felt like Zig was trying to recreate EMUIYC but making it a happy ending. Chrissy is a Beta, there was a scene there where he tied Chrissy like a dog in a small room with no windows. Then he explained that room was originally there and was specifically built by the original owner. There are only two people who knows about the existence of that room aside from him and he said that they were all dead. If you read EMUIYC you’ll instantly know that room was where Dominic kept Ashley (Juliet) and SA’d him till he mutated to an Omega. Well Nathaniel didn’t SA’d Chrissy he’s just playing with him. But still, it is like trying to redeem EMUIYC series with RAIYC. Till the end Nathaniel didn’t mutate Chrissy even though he can. Well Chrissy kind of hinted that he is willing is just that his past traumas are keeping him and Nathaniel understands it. Also all that thrilled and mystery they tried to build up in the story died down in just 3 last chapters when Zig tried to wrapped everything up in just 3 chapters. It is like Zig completely give up on the story to focus on DFMIYC not that I’m complaining though since Bliss’s story is more interesting now than of Nathaniel’s. The two bickers and always at each other’s throats a lot that it makes you wonder if they truly love each other. Though the thing I uploaded Zig in that story is Nathaniel didn’t outright said he’s in love with Chrissy.
Spoiler……
When Chrissy asked why Nathaniel went as far as killing his adopted father. Nathaniel went on like “I don’t know, maybe this is love.”
Nathaniel is still clueless but figuring out his feelings with Chrissy. They ended up together at the end with Chrissy remaining as a Beta. I don’t have any complaints with him being a Beta is just the ending felt rushed. The whole series only has 114 chapters I think while most of Zig’s novels lasted up to 200+ chapters. So it was really disappointing. I got frustrated with KML, KTS, KMG and specially KMS but never disappointed in them. Well I almost pulled out my hair in KMS when Yohan forgave Karam in the end. Like dude! Your husband who forgot about you and abused you suddenly showed up with his memories and you forgave him instantly?
This is the reason why I like Yuta from Pearl Boy ignite the dawn he doesn’t give in easily. They need to learn from him, play hard to get! Just like how Ashley did to Koi, he played hard to get with Koi when Koi was chasing after him hahahaha. Never seen an Omega chase after their alpha and doing all the soothing.