I don't know... DG is too precious for Jiwon. You are totally allowed to like him... But I just find it cheap and annoying that Jiwon has to be an asshole due to his past and that some perfect, kind, angelic boy has to come and save him... It's a cliché that just grates me... Maybe I'm just a bit triggered because the whole plot line is a bit close to home and DG reminds me of myself and in real life asshole are born assholes and once they are assholes, they stay assholes... But I just find the way DG is lovingly drawn and is so cute... even for me who rarely falls for BL characters, DG really stands out and BJ Alex is the kind of guy that is a dime a dozen.
I didn't know that a neonate can be an asshole?
or a zygote? hmm......disagree with you
Assholes are not born, they are made
Assholes can change when they want too. It's up to them if they want to change
All neonates are assholes, they cry, they are unemployed and they don't speak English. They are just awful... The worst. They are also slow and picky with food: veritable nightmares.
Embryos are OK... They don't take too much energy and they are quiet.
If you can show me an asshole that became good, then I will believe you, but I attempt to become an asshole tamer and I failed.
It takes time, believe me .. I've encountered an asshole .. but through time ‘they’ changed and became good enough to learn their lessons, they've regretted of the things they did .. (⌒▽⌒) there r tons of ways to change an asshole but it takes time like even years just don't stop (=・ω・=)
Thank you, it's nice to here your experience. I do hope I can make a bad person kind or at the very least kind to me. I know I complained about a character based on my own experience but... how people feel about characters is partly based on that. Maybe I am a bit burnt by what I've been through though.
Again, thank you!! ^^
Hehe your welcome, one day I'm sure they'll open up to you and let out their true feelings !(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ they might have gone thru a lot too so yeah who knows, I'll be supporting you, don't ever give up in life nor your goal ! ヾ(☆▽☆)
Aiman: Alex is the perfect yaoi guy
Also Aiman: he is an ass, his ego is so fking big too
I don't get what's with you people, everyone is happy for Heejae even though he's clearly mentally abusive and manipulating Jisuh, it's pathetic, not only that he planned on playing with his emotions since the beginning, throwing his ex in, manipulating him for sex... Frankly, even if he does love Jisuh, I don't care that much, Heejae is just a piece of shit who is hurting someone and he's even using Sun-yool as a prop in his fucked up plan. He's just some selfish predator.
you're right and wrong at the same time Heejae is a piece of trash but Jisuh is just realizing his feelings for Heejae. They Will get together in my opinion and they will stay together for as long as I say so (︶︿︶)＝凸
Quick shout-out to the assholes who unliked my post! It's mental abuse, recognise it for what it is and don't be a bunch of bitches and at least have the courage to write something!
But Heejae has deliberately manipulated him to get those feelings (by destabilising him with a stalker, by playing cold sometimes)
As for what you say, I don't think it matters, either the author knows that Heejae being a little bitch will cause problems in the future or the author is stupid and they will stay together, but my gut feeling is Heejae is going to meet problems.
thank you for saying this hes gross omg. jisuh deserves better than him
We are quite a few saying this actually. What pushed me though is that some people think this is OK and I am worried for them... It's rare to see mental abuse shown like this in BL.
It's not always easy to spot mental abuse if you haven't actually experienced it first hand, so I do partially understand... But I thought this last chapter made it explicit.
God bless you, out here doing the lords work
Im so sick of people trying to minimize what this this or normalize it or act like its okay or that they wanna see Heejae redeemed. NO. He already fucked up too much! Im glad you mention that he only has feelings for Heejae in the first place because Heejae messed with him enough to make him feel that way. Its manipulation through and through and we should not be accepting or sending the message that its cute or acceptable to establish relationships that way. NAH. Heejae been a bitch from the very beginning. I keep reading out of hope he'll get rejected and that Jisuh and Sunyool will become happy.
Thank you, I am only doing what is necessary. Maybe two years ago, I'd have let this slide, but the way people react towards Heejae is the way people react to real life abusers and some people aren't even aware that they are being abused... When I had my stalkers actions described as "romantic" and "a couple's problem" by police officers, the same actions that pushed me close to suicide, that made things clear to me, how people don't get it. I agree with your position, because BL often shows a rapist, a playboy, a stalker or an abuser suddenly changing through the power of love... And Sun-yool seems like a decent person. And yes, sure, it's cute in BL, but in reality it isn't like that, the abusive men return to their true selves and suddenly shrug "saying, I was always an asshole, I thought I changed, but I haven't". Yes, maybe there are some true miracles out there, but sadly, I have not seen them with my own eyes.
Yeah but seems like the joke's actually on him (Heejae) because even though he plays the "game" like a master, the lonlieness and monotony it makes him feel worked against him this time, and he doesn't even realize he's started acting outside of the script not because he's grown bored with the game, but because he's lonely.
I seriously hope this story doesn't go to the yaoi trope "abusive seme gets redemption and the uke by the end". I could still see some sort of forgiveness for Heejaee up until we learned he was actually the reason for the ex to show up again. Now all I want is for Jisuh to get away from him - preferably with Sun-yool. Let Heejaee alone with his mind games and perhaps some therapy. God knows he needs it.
Yeah, I guess, but it just isn't realistic, as I said, they generally revert back to what they are. And even so, it seems he has done this to many other guys, so it seems like a small punishment.
Yeah... I totally agree. The trope gives the impression to naive people that when a bad boyfriend says "I am not like that anymore" the partner then feels special, like they are giving redemption, but even that is often just a trick. It feels strange because Heejae gives me so much déjà-vu from guys I met in real life... He's the sort of guy who will never get therapy, they just wallow in self-pity, possibly that's what his flashback to his childhood is, he feels falling in love and having a man will ruin his future... But this sort of man never thinks of the future of others.
Thank you!!! There's so many people here who are excusing Heejae's actions even though he was manipulating and toying with Jisuh, and I was honestly getting really sick of it. The yaoi community can be really disgusting, sometimes.
I need to say ONE thing I don't care what you say about this. I LOVE Jisuh and I especially LOVE Heejae because I'm a total sadist ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
Well... As long as you recognise that he's abusive, I am more bothered by people who are happy and not recognising it.
You're welcome! ^^
Yeah, I know, but many people have come out against it too... It's just that when it was subtle, I didn't feel like saying anything (though some people did)... But now that it's obvious, people still don't get it. It's not excusable and I don't think the author is excusing it either.
AGREED. Like, I'm not opposed to Heejae getting a happy ending where that ending is he realizes he has issues/really messed up and backs off and goes to works on himself and maybe makes some god damn friends. But I am so over the whole, I have to save him/fix him/forgive him bullshit. Its not cute, its not a good message, its not healthy.
Looks like someone wrote the first 2 chapters on crack. (like this is low-key experimental literature right here)