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轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 2:07 am

the first time he's smiled without looking completely sleezy - he must be so proud of himself... ok ngl if I pulled a win like making an actual god, I'd be happy too. Went from.instant death to instant win.

Basically, we now need another god, cough chuya cough cough verlaine, to help out, cough cough possibly die. Or Atsushi to Atsushi it.

Let Atsushi Atsushi. I don't think Chuya is going to work and it'll end up falling onto Atsushi and Dazai. Or just Atsushi. Or a mix. But idk why I feel like if Chuya or Verlaine go, something will happen. idk why, they're too old to handle this. Like this is the same as Shibushibu. Shibushibu was defeated by Atsushi and Chuya did some of the legwork. Then reasonably, this time, Chuya handles big boy and Atsushi takes on Dostoesky if they parallel each other, which I think they will because author has done that with Lovecraft/Fizzypop and Shibushibu - which btw, I found horribly repeptitive for a mystery manga... If he does somethinf different, that'd be great.

But also why Atsushi - Atsushi can 'delete' abilities in the sense he can cut through them. So, since Dostoevsky *is* his ability, technically as long as Atsushi's AND Dostoevsky's ability register Dostoevsky as an ability, he can kill him. ngl if that does happen, then it'd probably be chalked up to Dostoevsky having used his ability too many times.

Literally, he 'holds' over things from people he has 'taken over' is what we're assuming if he's not lying about Bram - eg Bram's promise to Aya. Basically, what that means is that being killed by someone he isn't completely turned into a direct copy fo Dostoevsky, rather ig you could argue reborn in that person's body, ergo he still has the duties that must be fulfilled by that person. Similarly, this also means that if he takes over a lot of people and uses his ability a lot, more of himself is taken over by small details of others. These small details are a result of his ability and you can (?) argue that he is more of an ability after idk how long. So Atsushi can be registered, not as killing him but his ability if that even makes sense.

Or Christie backstabs him cause now he just went from kikling ability users (?) to killing everyone since the only one he wants to protect is Aya (ngl that is kind of sweet if not horrifyingly creepy because 9/10 Dostoevsky is a control freak, bro tells Dazai he'll remove everyone around someone to make them rely on him and like him).

I personally want Dazai to kill him and die. It would be the best end if bith Atsushi and Chuya lost and Dazai ended up killing him. You can think, ah doesn't his ability mean he can't use his ability? But the issue is technically, Dostoevsky ability activates on his death. And so, is Dazai really still touching the person who is using an ability if they die, does Dostoevsky's ability count as Dostoevsky's dead body or does it occur before death? But that wouldn't be possible, therefore, Dostoevsky ability might not be linked to his own body, but the body of the person who killed him. But then can ability really touch someone? Sure, Dostoevsky taking over Dazai physically could count as it, but not immediately so ngl, if Dazai were to kill Dostoevsky, he might die in the process and IMO, I think that is the best ending. NO MATTER WHAT YOU GUYS SAY. That is the best ending and IMO, for Dostoevsky, a super big bad scary villain, I think the amount of people that have died is reasonable. Even Teruka. Except Jouno but he's technically undead ig.

Jouno and Akutagawa are the two people who shouldn't be dead, if we're being completely fair. Jouno because it just didn't make much sense. Akutagawa because author is ruining the parallelism. Author is ruining a lot of things, but Akutagawa and Atsushi working together was not something I thought he would throw in the trash can. idk maybe they'll work together in the end???

Like Teruka makes sense, although sudden. When Dostoevsky moved to that area, I thought he'd kill everyone within a ten km radius ngl. I'm surprised he's holding back... from impulsive homicidal tendencies.

I feel like, there are three villains from chapter I think 21, 1. Fizzypop, 2. Dostoevsky, 3. Christie and her gang. Fizzypop is done, then there's Dostoevsky, but with how Dostoevsky is going, author should and probably will end with Dostoevsky. If he doesn't - he's an idiot.

But with how it's going, ngl author is going to pull some nonsense out of his ass to explain what's going on. There are inconsistency with Dostoevsky's ability too - e.g. Karma... the guard... Personally, I don't think in terms of OP-level his ability is too strong, I just don't think it makes sense. Now, if his ability was something like reverse Kim Dokja, I'd totally get it. Kill one hundred people and get revived once.

Honestly, that was what I thought it was originally-

    666titania June 4, 2024 3:56 am

    Um, from the anime, it was Atsushi and Akutagawa who fought the God.

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 4:30 am
    Um, from the anime, it was Atsushi and Akutagawa who fought the God. 666titania

    then who dealt with Dostoevsky

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 4:33 am
    then who dealt with Dostoevsky 轻轻落下来的叶子

    and didn't the anime diverge from the manga. I didn't watch it because someone told me it diverges.

    Ayantvi June 4, 2024 4:36 am
    and didn't the anime diverge from the manga. I didn't watch it because someone told me it diverges. 轻轻落下来的叶子

    It doesn't diverge as far as we know idk who told you that but it'll only diverge if atsushi and aku don't end up fighting that God and the manga isn't that far yet

    666titania June 4, 2024 4:41 am
    and didn't the anime diverge from the manga. I didn't watch it because someone told me it diverges. 轻轻落下来的叶子

    When the anime was released it was actually ahead of the manga. The anime ended when Akutagawa and Atsushi face the god Fukuchi and was about to battle it. It was an open ended, epilogue.

    The ANIME, still follows the manga so it's still a valid source. Better watch it for yourself. Chuuya and Dazai won't be able to fight it cuz they are in England and the events in the airport happened in Japan.

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 4:56 am
    It doesn't diverge as far as we know idk who told you that but it'll only diverge if atsushi and aku don't end up fighting that God and the manga isn't that far yet Ayantvi

    huh I guess they switch.

    So Atsushi and Akutagawa handle Dostoevsky and Fukuchi ver 2.

    idk someone told me that Fukuchi dies by Teruka on the anime.

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 5:02 am
    When the anime was released it was actually ahead of the manga. The anime ended when Akutagawa and Atsushi face the god Fukuchi and was about to battle it. It was an open ended, epilogue. The ANIME, still follo... 666titania

    okok i have reserves about Akutagawa fighting with Atsushi but ok. thanks for telling me- I honestly hoped Dazai could die against Dostoevsky and vice versa because it would make sense given he's his equal to some extent... but \(`Δ’)/

    (I am that small majority that find bsd anime really uncomfortable to watch- and ngl my impression of bsd is miracles happen everywhere. They have an ability user that can stop time for a few secs, they can find one that teleports-)

    Ayantvi June 4, 2024 7:34 am
    huh I guess they switch. So Atsushi and Akutagawa handle Dostoevsky and Fukuchi ver 2. idk someone told me that Fukuchi dies by Teruka on the anime. 轻轻落下来的叶子

    He does die but didn't he revive as a god just now? That's probably the god we see aku and atsu fighting in the anime's epilogue. In conclusion you're right about him dying but wrong about the diversion as far as we know

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 2:41 pm
    He does die but didn't he revive as a god just now? That's probably the god we see aku and atsu fighting in the anime's epilogue. In conclusion you're right about him dying but wrong about the diversion as far ... Ayantvi

    I said I was told Teruka killed him, but in the manga Dostoevsky kills him. That's the difference I was talking about... not sure how true that is cause my friend was the one who told me (⊙…⊙ ) idk I just don't like how asagiri punches his way through his problems.

    Ayantvi June 4, 2024 4:00 pm
    I said I was told Teruka killed him, but in the manga Dostoevsky kills him. That's the difference I was talking about... not sure how true that is cause my friend was the one who told me (⊙…⊙ ) idk I just... 轻轻落下来的叶子

    Bro wdym teruka killed him in manga too

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 5:50 pm
    Bro wdym teruka killed him in manga too Ayantvi

    No, Dostoevsky threatened Fukuzawa with his death. He was twitching.

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 6:26 pm
    No, Dostoevsky threatened Fukuzawa with his death. He was twitching. 轻轻落下来的叶子

    Bro read chapter 144.5 - he says, I'd advise you not to move. I won't hesitate to kill him. Then Fukuchi says Pay it no mind, strike him down, and then please teruka-kun you must cue everyone trying to stop Dostoevsky and THEN Dostoevsky stabbed him with the holy sword and then the space time sword.

    THEN he died and THEN he revived.

    I have a good memory of these things and I was sure Dosteovsky killed Fukuchi.

    Yes, Teruka stabbed Fukuchi, but that doesn't mean he died...

    Ayantvi June 4, 2024 8:19 pm
    Bro read chapter 144.5 - he says, I'd advise you not to move. I won't hesitate to kill him. Then Fukuchi says Pay it no mind, strike him down, and then please teruka-kun you must cue everyone trying to stop Dos... 轻轻落下来的叶子

    Yeah you're right but that part is not shown in the anime so we're assuming (in the anime) that teruko killed fukuchi by stabbing him. Since the part with dostoevsky and Bram is not animated it's the same with manga upto that point cuz the anime is behind the manga now.

    轻轻落下来的叶子 June 4, 2024 11:53 pm
    Yeah you're right but that part is not shown in the anime so we're assuming (in the anime) that teruko killed fukuchi by stabbing him. Since the part with dostoevsky and Bram is not animated it's the same with ... Ayantvi

    ohhh--- (⊙…⊙ ) thats such a great way to end... the one important piece left out. okok thanks for replying to my weird responses this entire time--

    Ayantvi June 5, 2024 9:22 am
    ohhh--- (⊙…⊙ ) thats such a great way to end... the one important piece left out. okok thanks for replying to my weird responses this entire time-- 轻轻落下来的叶子

    It's fine ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

轻轻落下来的叶子 May 27, 2024 1:23 am

izumo? why? like the other ones I get, but izumo? that doesn't make sense? kyoichiro's the reason why izumo even became a spy, just why? I don't get it.

I swear if this is just another point to make about how family is the only group of people you can trust I will end the author. That is so stupid. The only reason why family is considered the only people you can trust is because of your experience with them that makes them family. This literally does not make sense unless it's a huge joke istg. There is literally no reason for this to happen, no explanation. Like I get the idea that you can only trust family, but that's going too far to say someone would do something for money or to finish their 'contract' for the heck of it. Especially for someone like izumo and Kyoichiro.

Author doesn't understand how people work istg they better give a good explanation or I'm going to be so disappointed.

What kind of value are they even trying to suggest? That blood is the only thing that matters? That's so dumb. That doesn't take into consideration human bonds.

Like, IMO, if it's Izumo, then the only person who is his family is Kyoichiro atp.

Just no.

    Hopepehehehehe June 3, 2024 1:44 am

    This is so real, it's like so out of character for him at this point I wish they would've shown how he actually got to the decision of betraying kyoichiro rather than kyoichiro just saying it cause it does NOT feel justified to make his character turn around like that

轻轻落下来的叶子 May 3, 2024 12:41 am

dostoevsky discount: fight one dostoevsky, get one free

轻轻落下来的叶子 May 2, 2024 1:26 am

so if he slipped on a banana peel, some of the cells in a banana peel are alive and like, he hits his head and dies, does he become a banana peel?

just wondering

    bubble May 2, 2024 7:25 pm

    With this logic Fyodor could actually become a rat

    轻轻落下来的叶子 May 3, 2024 12:36 am
    With this logic Fyodor could actually become a rat bubble

    good sir with this logic he could be anything and I love that.

    earth fyodor
    rat fyodor
    banana fyodor
    cell phone fyodor
    computer fyodor
    ai fyodor

    and the best of all: fyodor fyodor

轻轻落下来的叶子 May 2, 2024 1:12 am

I rolled on the bed

because of how happy I was

at seeing dostoevsky alive

please stay that way

I spent seven/eight years following this

and the only character I've ever liked

this much was dostoevsky

istg if bram comes back because of some 'strong' mentality shit that anime likes

I'm going to actually flip my table

because goddamit that's not allowed

or some weird thing that makes it so that he somehow kills himself

because goddamit dazai I will erase your existence from the pages of the book with a sharpie

(also does that mean he can only be killed if he killed himself? fantastic, that means he'll only ever be locked in maximum security prison, mua (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ asagiri for making my bro basically immortal, try beating THAT dazai)

(I just knew that eli thing was because he was activating his ability, wikipedia is NEVER wrong)

(idk, but like imo, if that's his ability, it makes sense his 'copy' didn't kill him with shibushibu's mist. His ability is literally himself. ofc he's fine. fukuzawa manifested his 'equal', mori manifested 'elise', etc, but fyodor just manifests himself, or death that leads to himself, which in attacking him just makes him become himself lmao that must be such a power trip to shove in shibushibu's face; you're ability doesn't work loser cause your ability is me- I am my ability and my ability is me- lmao-)

轻轻落下来的叶子 April 21, 2024 11:14 pm

it wasn't just him lol

he's just so cool... ... ... Taiyo's so cool...

轻轻落下来的叶子 April 12, 2024 5:57 am

the complexity of the characters, the depth of their emotions - this is truly one of a kind...

轻轻落下来的叶子 April 11, 2024 3:59 am

like, the mc, she's a nice person, she's just uh very stone-like and when she was young she was foolish. The issue with people like that or her 'fault' is that it takes time to know her true personality. People make assumptions especially when there's a better example beside them of someone who is both nice and open. However, the story correctly points out, people who are openly nice are either stupid or secretly cruel. imo I don't think the sister is evil, but she is stupid. She's uneducated and lacking in sense of place or time or etiquette. She's never had to worry about anything so she doesn't worry about anything, whereas the mc has always had to worry about everything leading to a very blank face.

Someone like the mc who has to learn how to care for people and how to circumnavigate to other's preferences will naturally become 'better' people if they already know how. But the unique combination of her youth and her foolishness makes it so that she becomes stone like and difficult to understand. She doesn't have anyone to explain anything and even if she did the people around her don't talk about it. As such, she becomes isolated because she doesn't know she has people around her and she begins to habour a very uh ig unconscious hate towards the world and her sister. She loves and hates her sister.

Imo, people like this do so because they naturally have the feeling or need to defend themselves. She has to defend against the fear of her lack of ability to match the fiance. Which is also another issue; her inequality in comparison to him. If someone does a cinderella marriage, unless they're a golddigger, it's actually a very bad decision. The inequalities or small differences in habit or living style and structure make people feel like they owe something to make up for their ineptitudes. I feel like a lot of her 'love' isn't really love but a need to become someone who her fiance can see as an equal without feeling like it's pity. At least part of jt is so. So when he falls in love with her sister she can't stand it more because she fears it says something about herself than someone else.

I don't really agree with how the story makes it so that people are more interested in her; imo it's usually the opposite. People like the mc are difficult to communicate with, there's no sudden interest and they're liable to be mistaken.

轻轻落下来的叶子 April 9, 2024 5:36 am

but the order of events were excellent. sometimes stories don't need to be complicated, they just need to have good pacing and structure. It doesn't necessarily represent some godly philosophical ideal, but idk it's just well written.

(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

轻轻落下来的叶子 April 8, 2024 6:34 pm

It killed me. Idk my heart felt like it dropped to my stomach... ╥﹏╥

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