Hi, does anyone know what manga this is from? https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/incidentally_living_together/uu/incidentally_living_together-chapter-1/2/
I’m sure I’ve read some time ago, I just don’t remember… Please and thank you! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
It’s sayonara game by minaduki yuu!! I hope this helps!!
Thank you!!! (≧∀≦)
No problem!! ^^
Huh? I don’t know why the bisexual seme of the second couple is getting a ton of hate? I like both semes. They’re honest and consciously put in effort for a healthier human-human relationship with their partners. The bisexual seme may have wanted for a physical-only relationship (as healthy as that can get) but he was honest about it and honest about his reasons for it. He was aware of his shortcomings and constantly tries to remind his partner about it so as not to go into a relationship with absurd expectations and be unnecessarily hurt. It’s also good that his partner was the assertive type with enough confidence in himself to be able to complement the problems the seme has told him about. I mean, compare the bisexual seme with the main uke, they both didn’t want to start a serious relationship for roughly about the same reasons - the impossibility of same-sex marriage. However, while main uke ran away from his seme because of it without even explaining himself clearly, the bisexual seme was upfront about it. He clearly had some affections for his partner but he was also thinking about his partner and honest about it when he refused to be in a serious relationship. Just think about main uke’s ex who didn’t even let him know he was bisexual up until he sent him a wedding invitation and tells him that he dated him back then with the full intentions of eventually breaking up. That’s what traumatized uke. At least, for whatever faults bisexual seme had as a lover, he had full respect for his partner as a human. He was not trying to say that he would definitely leave his partner for a woman or even two-time him, he was laying the facts out to his partner - that he, as a person whose opinions and beliefs also matter and must be respected even while not all can and do agree, has currently no plans of ever coming out as being able to date guys for whatever reasons he may have which are perfectly valid as long as he is not deliberately hurting others and yes, there is the possibility that he might date and marry a woman in the future preferably after breaking it up cleanly with his current partner, which is his freedom and right to do so. Or they might stay together and he may even want to come out in the future, it’s his life. He was just being truthful about it so his partner understands perfectly before getting in a relationship with him and not be like his ex who apparently spent their relationship just worrying about his relationships with other people. He didn’t want to deal with a partner who isn’t confident enough to deal with those possibilities, I think. And didn’t he agree eventually when his partner told him that even if they broke up (and not that they really were dating to break up), he could move on fine and even if they have problems in their relationship they can deal with it together as proper couples do.
Honestly, at first I even thought pink-haired guy would be the seme for the second couple since between the two of them, he was the one I didn’t like. He was too aggressive and couldn’t take no for an answer. Do others really have to give you a reason you can accept for not sleeping with you? Can you disregard what reasons they give you just because you can’t accept it? It’s not as if it was his obligation to sleep with you? Isn’t it enough to just not want to? His pushy behavior just really annoyed me. Looking back on it now though, maybe only someone like him who has a strong ego can make the bisexual seme have enough confidence in a serious relationship with him where they won’t just stress and burn each other out of love.
Literally this. He communicated very clearly, though it seems he has internalized his own homophobia. I wouldn't say he hates gay people but he doesn't want to be perceived as one bc he's afraid of the possibility of being treated differently.
Honestly, the immorality of incest aside, the fact that Kanata and Keita are now lovers who committed to each other is already established. I thought a pair of lovers’ commitment to each other is kind of a sacred thing. No matter what problems they have or how happy they actually are with each other, if they’re not harming each other or the people around them, I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business to decide whether they can be taken by others while under the umbrella of their commitment just on the basis of “I don’t think your partner loves you enough, so I’m gonna take you away because I obviously love you more.” Hello? Mizuhara, not to mention your sexual assault and attempted rape, does Kanata even love you? Kanata loves Keita so what right do you have to decide if Keita’s love is enough and whether Kanata should be taken away? Sure, relevant people like trusted family and friends can give advice to a struggling couple, but it’s the business of the people directly involved in the relationship to take that advice, and that’s as far as outsiders can and should go… is what I think. Are plot points such as Mizuhara’s abnormal, or is it just me who thinks it’s weird that some people can feel so entitled to that extent just on the basis of having feelings (and one-sided feelings at that)???
Not that I’m all for an incestual love affair like Kanata and Keita’s but just looking at the fact that they’re a couple already and speaking for all couples in general, is my opinion right or wrong?
I only feel bad for Wataru that he was deceived but I don’t feel bad for him that Shiki moved on. After all, they have had no contact for four years already at Wataru’s own choice and he wasn’t exactly working so hard for Shiki, he was working to pay off his own debts, just that he didn’t want to involve Shiki anymore. Instead, because he kept mum, he ended up causing more trouble for Shiki. Well, I also admire him for not forcing Shiki to get back together with him and accepting that Shiki has already moved on. I also admire him for being brave enough to go back to Shiki just in case he still had a chance. Shiki also, was definitely too kind for his own good. When he thought Wataru had abandoned him with the debt, he kept staying in their house to wait in case Wataru came back, not to be foolish to wait for him so they could go back together but just to make sure that Wataru was alright. Their relationship must have been really good back when they were together and they were good friends to each other as they were lovers. It’s just that Wataru had some difficulties which ended up causing him to wrong Shiki.
One thing I just don’t understand about Shiki is why he lets Tenma live with him in that place now that he and Wataru are completely done. Yeah, it’s Tenma’s choice but he knew Tenma was only doing it to be with him. Sure, he didn’t want their relationship to be mixed up with money and wants to pay Tenma but he could have chosen to do that in the comfort of Tenma’s own residence. As Tenma’s housekeeper/life manager and Tenma’s lover, letting go of that bit of pride could only be good for the both of them, since as a model, it is best for Tenma to be comfortable as much as possible in his off days and especially since that house was where he lived with and waited for his past lover.
Anyways, best boii Tenma!!!
Bugo man ata ning buanga ni… Why not just say “it’s my brother”??? Bugo-a uy… “It’s happening again, I’m hurting Lu Tao again”… bugo jud diay ka?! Of course it will be the same as before when you were forcing him to marry you since now you’re saying you’re buying his body for his future… stupid lng jud?!! Couldn’t you just say “Oh, no, you’ve misunderstood, we are not in this kind of relationship”. Since Lu Tao has amnesia, whatever Cheng Jin says is the law of his world, was it really necessary to make him believe you’re using your authority to force him into a relationship with you, AGAIN?! You know how well that went the first time. You never really learn! Is this your one and only trick?! Even with the excuse that you should go along with it because of the mental instability at the beginning, there were a lot of opportunities to clear up your relationship instead of just “Oh no, I’ve hurt him again” blah blah blah ning tawhana bugo jud kaayo. Ambot nimo bugo ka, makamata ra ka ug idomestic abuse na sad ka sa imong buang na bana…
Kalma ra uyy hahahahaah but yeah it’s frustrating. Majority of their problems would have been settled with a proper communication
Well, yeah… it’s a bit frustrating because the main story is about their misunderstandings, how they realize their own faults, separate to try to make themselves into better people, then fix their relationship after appropriate character development and then be lovey-dovey in a more mature and healthier way.
In the extras, it isn’t Lu Tao’s fault now since he’s got amnesia and is mentally unstable but Cheng Jin is just going through the same things he did when he made Lu Tao dislike him before. Even though I was a bit excited about this amnesia thing because I thought they were gonna make up for their past and not repeat their mistakes but then I get the same thing from what I’ve been reading for like 70-80 chapters… I mean, where’s the character development, right? When Cheng Jin realized “Oh no, Lu Tao is having the same kinds of misunderstandings he had like before and is getting hurt by our status in this kind of relationship like what we had before” I thought he’d be like “This is my chance to leave him better and sweeter memories and correct our regrets from back when we were both so stupid”. But he’s just wasting this precious “blessing in disguise” opportunity because he’s having too much fun by himself since Lu Tao’s like kinda regressed.
I think it started to get weird and repetitive coz from what i’ve read from the other comments, the story was supposed to end when they had a kid. But for some reasons, the manhua extended the story. And maybe because it’s no longer following the original plot, whoever is in charge of the script is just copying whatever was happening in the first parts thinking it’s what made the story famous. This is why people are saying this manhua is Mr. Dior wanna be since that manhua is the same. The only difference is that Mr. Dior has actual character development and the different amnesias allows the readers a chance to understand more about the characters, about their past, and learning more about the story instead of it being a repetitive cycle. In this story however, it’s like they’re stuck in the same characters just different scenarios.
Ahhh, that’s… wow… I should just unsubscribe from this. Copy Mr. Dior? But Mr. Dior is like a genre of it’s own, like a masterpiece pioneer… if others wanna make something similar, they have to be at least 20% better just to be able to compare… otherwise it will always be subpar.
It’s because I’ve already 100+ chapters so I always keep thinking I should just read the rest whenever I get a notification of an update.
Anyway, thanks for replying.
Same. I always run out of reading material so i just read whatever pops out in my notif hahaahah i guess i’ll stop reading this too for a while and maybe come back to check if the character would get better hahahaah better stop reading it altogether if it’s making you feel frustrated. Don’t let it ruin your day.
Why does Siyeol never say “No, I don’t like JooHa” clearly and firmly every time AeJoon asks? He’s just like “I love you, the one I’m with now is you, I think you’re misunderstanding the depth of my feelings for you”, like… just tell him “No, I don’t like JooHa” after which you say “The one I love and will love is you”. He doesn’t even need to deny that he once loved JooHa, just say that he doesn’t love him currently. I mean the question’s pretty simple, right? “Do you still like JooHa?” Yes or no. The way he’s not answering the way I expect makes me think he’s in love with both AeJoon and JooHa at the same time… which is a thing that is possible and is just… ???
I dunno, maybe it’s just me. I’m too hung up on little things… I just feel so uncomfortable that he never once denies to AeJoon that he likes JooHa. True, he denies it in a thought bubble but like never once to AeJoon. Even when JooHa and AeJoon went out for drinks, even JooHa thought SiYeol came for him. Ok, maybe it was because JooHa didn’t yet know that SiYeol and AeJoon were dating but, wow, imagine how that must suck big time for AeJoon… I totally understand him being jealous and insecure.
ikrr!!! it felt unsatisfying for me :<<<
I can’t… I feel like my veins are gonna pop and my chest just feels so heavy like every breath is a frustrated sigh… when is this gonna end? Is it ok to ask for spoilers??? I mean, is that allowed here??? I kinda don’t wanna read anymore but I also don’t want to never know what happens… ╥﹏╥ Honestly I don’t even like both main characters and the plot I can’t even… can this happen in real life too? Are there exaggeratedly stupid people like these who can fuck up their lives to this point? I certainly hate SeungEun - he’s one fucked up lowlife who would most probably die if you just made him talk; but like, I hate JiWook more, you know? Because between the two of them, he’s the original sin. Yeah, they’re both flawed and I can’t even weigh their mistakes against each other’s to know who made the gravest, but JiWook started it all. Yeah, it wasn’t his fault shit hit the fan. Like, he’s just one of the shit being banged around all over in the first place, BUT!!!! Imagine if he put down his pride in the beginning, yeah?! Like, accepted help and not run away! Yeah, yeah…. Emotionally, it’s hard to do. He’s human, too. Because of love he didn’t want to be a burden and didn’t want to feel lesser. Rationally, though, what the fuck?If he has an inferiority complex, at least also give him self-awareness. Even if he didn’t want to accept help, feel like charity, from the way he viewed himself, did he ever stop to think he could not have afforded not to accept help? Okay. Okay, I get it. The first time he ran away, maybe it was excusable. We’re all humans, we got to have DIGNITY. Then what about the second time? What about those times no normal person without some deep, deep masochistic tendencies would be able to tolerate? Did he not think, I was gonna be treated like shit anyway, why not at least let me treat myself as shit and beg my ex for help rather than let nobodies reduce me to nothing, even worse than shit. I mean, at least shit would be left alone in the name of being shit… He was constantly yanked around, rubbed to the ground, and just generally played with… SeungEun would have at worst treated him like a caged bird or a beloved dog and if he had to sell his body, wouldn’t it be better to sell it to someone with that face and with that body? If he was gonna suffer anyway, why not suffer under a BL manga’s ML, right? I just… haizzzz
Anyway, I’m just talking shit because I can’t possibly understand the psyche of someone in his shoes and unlike him who’s in the thick of things, I have the privilege of a reader looking in from outside in possession still of my rational thinking capabilities. Yeah, you know just hypothetically if I were made to choose… then I wouldn’t have chosen what he did but this also would have been a totally different manhwa which might be better, might be worse.
And I’m not just throwing shade at JiWook ‘cause I like SeungEun more, f***, I hate them both and they’re both stupid, left their brains out at some point and forgot to pick it back up. Just, I dunno why I have more of a sense of substitution with JiWook… maybe I think his choices are simpler? Choose between bad A and worse B multiple times, and all times he’d choose B. Not that SeungEun didn’t choose B’s too but like… argghhh, I dunno. Well, if I were SeungEun, the moment JiWook ran away and gave up on me, I’d fucking move on with my life.
Alright, no hate… just wanna ask for SPOILERS… Anyone have them? If it’s not alright to post them here, can you tell me where I can find them? Like I wanna if they ever realize they had both been just f***ing stupid and talked and maybe, everything had been so simple all along moment??? Like is there even something like that or does everything just get glossed over with a big, fat, greasy, and shiny HAPPY EVER AFTER halo that just leaves readers dazed and confused? Tell me, is this suffering worth it in the end??? Not theirs, I mean OUR suffering?
You've said what I always think about this story that goes nowhere. Thank you.
They're back at square 1 and I wonder how many much more chapters needs the author to put some common sense in both protagonistes's head... I think I'll come back in months to see how things progressed.
I think it's from cosmetic play lover !! not sure since I reversed image searched it and it was all in jp
Thanks
Hi! Can anyone pls tell me where the extra where these two were featured was uploaded to? Please? Thanks! It’s the one where they met when they visited main story’s uke at his workplace. I think that’s where they both got a chance to interact more with each other.
No, never mind, I found it. It wasn’t an extra, it was Ch 3 of the main story (Asatte ni Kiss), and it wasn’t uke’s workplace but the seme’s. Thanks anyway. And I don’t know how to delete a comment so I’m just replying to my own comment to let everyone know. Thanks!