Ok so first comment ever in like years on this platform. Cause some of y’all’s really need a reality check. Omegaverse sets up the premise that humans have an irresistible biological imperative to breed. Like what do y’all’s think the “heat” is for? Just as an omega cannot control their heat, it is just as hard for an alpha to resists. I’m not saying it. Like every intro to omegaverge manga say so. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
This specific story sets it up so that the ML meets the FL out of nowhere. He doesn’t know her. He is an alpha being tempted by an omega in heat with whom he’s had no previous interaction (as far as we know). He has no emotional imperative to stop himself. No frame of reference, recognition or love to make him think twice. Remember that he did stop himself the second time because of his daughter. （￣へ￣）
Y’all’s are painting the ML as a sadistic, evil, perverted maniac that wanted to rape the FL. Y’all’s realize that the premise is f-up up on all sides and that no one is to blame? “He should die! He should kill himself! He should be castrated!” Just blehhhhh… This ain’t the real world. In the real world, we can guarantee the idea of having choices and explore consent on all sides. Omegaverse doesn’t allow that. (￣∇￣")
Yes he assaulted her. But was it a conscious choice? The premise of omegaverse says No at best, and it’s complicated, at worst.
I f-ing hate him too. But I hate him because of how he chooses to mishandle the entire situation when he meets her again. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
See the difference? That was an active choice. It’s a grey area to place full blame and responsibility on an alpha that was literally minding his own business, only for a biological imperative like “the heat” to make him commit such a horrible act. Can you say he would have raped her if she wasn’t in heat? You can’t. Can you? （￣へ￣）
As for the FL, her suffering has just started. Cause she’s gonna have to realize exactly the same shit I’m trying to tell y’all’s. Whether the mangaka does that well remains to be seen.
If you like omegaverse, you have to come to terms with the fact that sexual assault cannot be solely attributed to the perpetrator’s character. Unless clearly stated that they are sadistic f-ing assholes who take pleasure tormenting others. （￣へ￣）
Reading these stories takes nuance. Something I’m realizing a lot of y’all’s lack. (⊙…⊙ )
This manga may turn out to be shit. Like setting this shit up so FL falls in love with ML. But a lot of y’all’s post ridiculous comments on omegaverse mangas as if “the heat” is meant to be glorified. It’s horrible. It makes people lose control. Imagine that. Raping someone against your own will and consent. Destroying someone else’s life against your own will. That’s fucked up. So a bit of grace and critical thinking before y’all’s post. It’s literally exhausting reading some y’all’s comments. (⊙…⊙ )
I may end up copying this and posting it on similar mangas. Call me a preacher. (〜￣△￣)〜
On a side note, it says a lot about us, that we like omegaverse whose premise it is that people may not be able to consent to sex. Sugar coating it with “fated pairs” and “mating bond” doesn’t remove from that. (￣∇￣")
I agree with you and I also commented on about this. Although, I’m not sure if my keypoints about the subject come out the way like I wanted it to but you and a few others did it better.
I agree with you and I also commented on about this. Although, I’m not sure if my keypoints about the subject come out the way like I wanted it to but you and a few others did it better. King of Cows
Don’t get me wrong. I freaking hate the ML. Talk about miscommunicating, blackmailing, arrogant, and non-remorseful attitude he is displaying after re-meeting the FL. He should be begging for her forgiveness. Begging. Regardless that he didn’t mean to rape her. He did commit the act, and she is living the traumatic consequences. He’s acting like an asshole. But not a perverted sadist. Hate the character for the right reasons. This isn’t Griffith from Berserk. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I think it’s important that people understand that distinction. We need to self reflect. Internalize that we like media that sets ups non-con as something desirable or even normal. It took me a long time to reconcile this fact. Omegaverse used to absolutely disgust me. The genre glorifies dubious consent. For every fated pair, and mating bond, there is the other side: fear, coercition, harassment, and sexual assault. ╥﹏╥
Folk in these threads need to realize that the very premise of the genre is non-con on both sides: alpha and omega. And to stop crying wolf. I am still waiting for an omegaverse manga that explores the trauma of an alpha that had very little choice in sexually assaulting someone. Imagine that. Being forced to rape someone. Yeah. (⊙…⊙ )
Don’t get me wrong. I freaking hate the ML. Talk about miscommunicating, blackmailing, arrogant, and non-remorseful attitude he is displaying after re-meeting the FL. He should be begging for her forgiveness.... Yura-san
Same. But in my case. I don’t particularly hate nor like the alpha. I even mention that there are many ways he could have gone about this but no, his dumb*ss went the wrong way about it. Then again, my dumb head tend to try to characterize the characters realistically. Like how they have their own circumstances and how they’re raise. Who knows, what’s the alpha past is but some people tend to grow up not knowing what’s better. Or how to handle situations. Not trying to glorify him but we haven’t saw his p.o.v. Then again, it’s up to how the manga artist portrays them. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Another thing about the media like set up is that people tend to be blindsided. Like you only saw one side of the story. Like, yes, I understand rape is bad. But this is fiction and the omegaverse. We don’t even know if the Alpha is voluntarily raping her or he’s been affected. You’re going with the flow that he’s the villain but is he actually? I feel like some of the people who comment that he’s should go to hell or die without seeing his side of the story, are people who would blindly believe the story of a stranger, a woman, who lies about getting raped and getting an innocent man in prison without listening to him.
Unless, some peeps are just pointlessly commenting their own opinion without any meaning to it, then that’s perfectly fine. Heck, there are some first impressions of characters that I didn’t like and was in the same way. Commenting that they should die or let’s burn them. Since it was just a baseless comment. (≧∀≦)
As for your last paragraph. I also thought of the same. Like what if we see a manga of the alpha side of the story. The guilt, fear, and trauma he has to go through. The part where he’s actually going the right way about it and trying to beg forgiveness but constantly gets the abuse and being accused for being a rapist and therefore, being stuck as a criminal.
Same. But in my case. I don’t particularly hate nor like the alpha. I even mention that there are many ways he could have gone about this but no, his dumb*ss went the wrong way about it. Then again, my dumb h... King of Cows
Yep, I think some people just post to post. And I usually ignore it. It’s the internet. But yesterday was a last straw for me in years of reading unrealistic, trigger ready, mob mentality of: let’s kill him, and ask questions later.
I took the liberty of reading your previous comment. Tbh, you come out as victim blaming in it. No cap. (￣∇￣") Maybe that’s not what you meant but,
Considering ideas like: why was she outside? Why didn’t she take suppressants? Sets up the precedent that we think she could have done something to prevent the rape. Which is untrue, especially in the alpha/omega universe.
Remember, it’s set up so that any random stranger can have an irresistible urge to have sex with you, regardless of their own will. So even if she was home, an alpha neighbour could have forced her door down to get to her. Not to mention, suppressants can fail. ╥﹏╥
Side note: the random stranger thing is supper unrealistic by the way, cause we know in real life, most people are sexually assaulted by someone they know.
Entertaining those ideas is a slippery slope. I don’t think the ML’s intent was to dangle herself like “alphas most wanted”, and I think you tried to touch on that. Especially when you mention having situational awareness. Like, I hate how omegas don’t have that survival skill in half of these stories. I say omegas specifically because they are supposed to be so rare, and are the most affected if shit go wrong. People don’t be reading with comprehension though. (￣∇￣")
Anyway. I just wanted to rant, but I ended up having a lot of fun with this conversation. You have some really good insights and understand of the universe. That’s rare to see in these comments threads. Thanks for entertaining my verbal diarrhea. (⌒▽⌒)
I loved your reply so much. Don't know much of omegaverse so was not able to get more details. I had just touched on fucked up scenario in my reply to some comment.
Each time he denies rape we hate him more because we as reader have seen it happen but does he remember it. From ch 2, it looks like he has blacked out the process. He barely recollects the event and could recognize the child by smell. If he had seen her pained self immediately after event, he might have got powerful jolt of guilt. If he had injured himself, there would be pain. There was nothing to remind him of event till he saw the child again.
The whole incident on how he met her and child are culprit. May be if he had got some grace period with doctor in charge to get advice he might have handled it better. All he thought of was ill child who walked half naked in cold, mom who was overworked and ill. Help the child and mother. When she answered to his apology he seemed half convinced that he was not to be blamed for being high handed.
We don't know what is going through in his life or how 6 years has been. He is actually pretty lifeless. What happened to his career? What did he lose from the event. It might not be painful like it was for her but did he get out of it unscathed.
They will both start learning things about each other if they stay longer. She is too scared and angry to understand on how they both want same thing. They don't want the incident to rehappen. They are not attracted to each other. They want what is best for child. They don't trust each other. They blame each other for the incident. Hers are more vocal, his are more passive. I am hoping for impasse to be lifted and communication to happen so she gets what she wants.
One thing I did notice- illustrator is doing great job at delineating him. When seen from her eye he is monster with all the power. On his own he is young, confused person who is way over his head and doesn't know how to deal with her or the situation he is in. I hope ppl realize there are two victims in this manga. He is one of them.
You can use the omega verse trope all you want to defend him, sure, whatever, it's a story and he gets to have that justification so the author can justify them getting together at the end. But saying people need a reality check for rightfully being repulsed by a rapist, regardless of his 'reasons' for the rape...girl, I think you need the reality check lmao.
Ok so first comment ever in like years on this platform. Cause some of y’all’s really need a reality check. Omegaverse sets up the premise that humans have an irresistible biological imperative to breed. Like what do y’all’s think the “heat” is for? Just as an omega cannot control their heat, it is just as hard for an alpha to resists. I’m not saying it. Like every intro to omegaverge manga say so. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
This specific story sets it up so that the ML meets the FL out of nowhere. He doesn’t know her. He is an alpha being tempted by an omega in heat with whom he’s had no previous interaction (as far as we know). He has no emotional imperative to stop himself. No frame of reference, recognition or love to make him think twice. Remember that he did stop himself the second time because of his daughter. （￣へ￣）
Y’all’s are painting the ML as a sadistic, evil, perverted maniac that wanted to rape the FL. Y’all’s realize that the premise is f-up up on all sides and that no one is to blame? “He should die! He should kill himself! He should be castrated!” Just blehhhhh… This ain’t the real world. In the real world, we can guarantee the idea of having choices and explore consent on all sides. Omegaverse doesn’t allow that. (￣∇￣")
Yes he assaulted her. But was it a conscious choice? The premise of omegaverse says No at best, and it’s complicated, at worst.
I f-ing hate him too. But I hate him because of how he chooses to mishandle the entire situation when he meets her again. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
See the difference? That was an active choice. It’s a grey area to place full blame and responsibility on an alpha that was literally minding his own business, only for a biological imperative like “the heat” to make him commit such a horrible act. Can you say he would have raped her if she wasn’t in heat? You can’t. Can you? （￣へ￣）
As for the FL, her suffering has just started. Cause she’s gonna have to realize exactly the same shit I’m trying to tell y’all’s. Whether the mangaka does that well remains to be seen.
If you like omegaverse, you have to come to terms with the fact that sexual assault cannot be solely attributed to the perpetrator’s character. Unless clearly stated that they are sadistic f-ing assholes who take pleasure tormenting others. （￣へ￣）
Reading these stories takes nuance. Something I’m realizing a lot of y’all’s lack. (⊙…⊙ )
This manga may turn out to be shit. Like setting this shit up so FL falls in love with ML. But a lot of y’all’s post ridiculous comments on omegaverse mangas as if “the heat” is meant to be glorified. It’s horrible. It makes people lose control. Imagine that. Raping someone against your own will and consent. Destroying someone else’s life against your own will. That’s fucked up. So a bit of grace and critical thinking before y’all’s post. It’s literally exhausting reading some y’all’s comments. (⊙…⊙ )
I may end up copying this and posting it on similar mangas.
Call me a preacher. (〜￣△￣)〜
On a side note, it says a lot about us, that we like omegaverse whose premise it is that people may not be able to consent to sex. Sugar coating it with “fated pairs” and “mating bond” doesn’t remove from that. (￣∇￣")
I agree with you and I also commented on about this. Although, I’m not sure if my keypoints about the subject come out the way like I wanted it to but you and a few others did it better.
Don’t get me wrong. I freaking hate the ML. Talk about miscommunicating, blackmailing, arrogant, and non-remorseful attitude he is displaying after re-meeting the FL. He should be begging for her forgiveness. Begging. Regardless that he didn’t mean to rape her. He did commit the act, and she is living the traumatic consequences. He’s acting like an asshole. But not a perverted sadist. Hate the character for the right reasons. This isn’t Griffith from Berserk. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I think it’s important that people understand that distinction. We need to self reflect. Internalize that we like media that sets ups non-con as something desirable or even normal. It took me a long time to reconcile this fact. Omegaverse used to absolutely disgust me. The genre glorifies dubious consent. For every fated pair, and mating bond, there is the other side: fear, coercition, harassment, and sexual assault.
╥﹏╥
Folk in these threads need to realize that the very premise of the genre is non-con on both sides: alpha and omega. And to stop crying wolf. I am still waiting for an omegaverse manga that explores the trauma of an alpha that had very little choice in sexually assaulting someone. Imagine that. Being forced to rape someone. Yeah. (⊙…⊙ )
Same. But in my case. I don’t particularly hate nor like the alpha. I even mention that there are many ways he could have gone about this but no, his dumb*ss went the wrong way about it. Then again, my dumb head tend to try to characterize the characters realistically. Like how they have their own circumstances and how they’re raise. Who knows, what’s the alpha past is but some people tend to grow up not knowing what’s better. Or how to handle situations. Not trying to glorify him but we haven’t saw his p.o.v. Then again, it’s up to how the manga artist portrays them. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Another thing about the media like set up is that people tend to be blindsided. Like you only saw one side of the story. Like, yes, I understand rape is bad. But this is fiction and the omegaverse. We don’t even know if the Alpha is voluntarily raping her or he’s been affected. You’re going with the flow that he’s the villain but is he actually?
I feel like some of the people who comment that he’s should go to hell or die without seeing his side of the story, are people who would blindly believe the story of a stranger, a woman, who lies about getting raped and getting an innocent man in prison without listening to him.
Unless, some peeps are just pointlessly commenting their own opinion without any meaning to it, then that’s perfectly fine. Heck, there are some first impressions of characters that I didn’t like and was in the same way. Commenting that they should die or let’s burn them. Since it was just a baseless comment.
(≧∀≦)
As for your last paragraph. I also thought of the same. Like what if we see a manga of the alpha side of the story. The guilt, fear, and trauma he has to go through. The part where he’s actually going the right way about it and trying to beg forgiveness but constantly gets the abuse and being accused for being a rapist and therefore, being stuck as a criminal.
Yep, I think some people just post to post. And I usually ignore it. It’s the internet. But yesterday was a last straw for me in years of reading unrealistic, trigger ready, mob mentality of: let’s kill him, and ask questions later.
I took the liberty of reading your previous comment. Tbh, you come out as victim blaming in it. No cap. (￣∇￣") Maybe that’s not what you meant but,
Considering ideas like: why was she outside? Why didn’t she take suppressants? Sets up the precedent that we think she could have done something to prevent the rape. Which is untrue, especially in the alpha/omega universe.
Remember, it’s set up so that any random stranger can have an irresistible urge to have sex with you, regardless of their own will. So even if she was home, an alpha neighbour could have forced her door down to get to her. Not to mention, suppressants can fail. ╥﹏╥
Side note: the random stranger thing is supper unrealistic by the way, cause we know in real life, most people are sexually assaulted by someone they know.
Entertaining those ideas is a slippery slope. I don’t think the ML’s intent was to dangle herself like “alphas most wanted”, and I think you tried to touch on that. Especially when you mention having situational awareness. Like, I hate how omegas don’t have that survival skill in half of these stories. I say omegas specifically because they are supposed to be so rare, and are the most affected if shit go wrong. People don’t be reading with comprehension though. (￣∇￣")
Anyway. I just wanted to rant, but I ended up having a lot of fun with this conversation. You have some really good insights and understand of the universe. That’s rare to see in these comments threads. Thanks for entertaining my verbal diarrhea. (⌒▽⌒)
I loved your reply so much. Don't know much of omegaverse so was not able to get more details. I had just touched on fucked up scenario in my reply to some comment.
Each time he denies rape we hate him more because we as reader have seen it happen but does he remember it. From ch 2, it looks like he has blacked out the process. He barely recollects the event and could recognize the child by smell. If he had seen her pained self immediately after event, he might have got powerful jolt of guilt. If he had injured himself, there would be pain. There was nothing to remind him of event till he saw the child again.
The whole incident on how he met her and child are culprit. May be if he had got some grace period with doctor in charge to get advice he might have handled it better. All he thought of was ill child who walked half naked in cold, mom who was overworked and ill. Help the child and mother. When she answered to his apology he seemed half convinced that he was not to be blamed for being high handed.
We don't know what is going through in his life or how 6 years has been. He is actually pretty lifeless. What happened to his career? What did he lose from the event. It might not be painful like it was for her but did he get out of it unscathed.
They will both start learning things about each other if they stay longer. She is too scared and angry to understand on how they both want same thing. They don't want the incident to rehappen. They are not attracted to each other. They want what is best for child. They don't trust each other. They blame each other for the incident. Hers are more vocal, his are more passive. I am hoping for impasse to be lifted and communication to happen so she gets what she wants.
One thing I did notice- illustrator is doing great job at delineating him. When seen from her eye he is monster with all the power. On his own he is young, confused person who is way over his head and doesn't know how to deal with her or the situation he is in. I hope ppl realize there are two victims in this manga. He is one of them.
You can use the omega verse trope all you want to defend him, sure, whatever, it's a story and he gets to have that justification so the author can justify them getting together at the end. But saying people need a reality check for rightfully being repulsed by a rapist, regardless of his 'reasons' for the rape...girl, I think you need the reality check lmao.