Idk why y'all are calling this rape like the first two had any ability to communicate let alone were human in anyway. They literally had no mouths Until whatever holy power in her body assisted them. After that, She has given consent at multiple occasions. This one Had a mouth and asked for consent.
Also did we forget these are literally monsters. C'mon, one dude is a bird, the other a snake and our ML is literally a tentacle monster.
If this makes you uncomfortable, that's fine, you don't have to read this. It's fantasy, not real. Not every smut series is going to have "hey I want to have sex with you, do you? Please give me super specific written/verbal consent" moments. It's fine if that's what you want, but don't go pearl clutching every time you don't get it.
This is a fantasy series about a girl who gets fucked by monsters... There's going to be dub con. The whole point is "I am giving into my desires". You don't need to write an entire novel about how unethical monster fucking is lol. That's the whole point is that it's monsters. That you fuck. Monsters aren't going to take you out for dinner then meet your parents lol.
Also y'all need to understand the history of bodice rippers and the feminist history surrounding. Women were taught sex is not something you want, but something you don't get to chose. The reason these stories exist is to give women safe spaces to act on and discuss their desires they can't be open about. There is decades of research and proof of this.
If you can't handle a story with some light dub con for a priest character to fulfill her desires, then go read something else. No one is forcing you to be here.
Also, on the "fiction impacts reality" how??? Do you know of a forest with monsters that fuck that we're not aware of? If so please hand over the coordinates lmao. I'll take a turn with Mr tentacles and two dick snakey
There’s a difference between “yes let me get laid by monster I love it” even as it’s dubious or even noncon
But for something very clearly, especially at first, that someone perceives it with an ick, that throws me out
I don’t wanna see either man or woman say ‘no’ with a horrified face without being able to do anything like ???
If we started as a horny priest going gaga on these mfs I’d be into pound town but no, we start with her crying and being in pain and saying no like what, that’s rape
It goes from crying and saying no to some random 360 barely a chapter shift from “i dont like it” to “I’ll suck it up and deal with it” and rationalizing otherwise
Once again, if she ENJOYED it at the start, your message would be right
But very clearly, that wasn’t the case You can say pearl clutching but I wanna see hot monster sex supercombos with 50 different types but not rape, like it’s very clear that it’s super easy to do shit like this without SA, and being coerced isn’t exactly consensual
If someone forces their anatomy into a partner who is saying no at the moment with internal monologue that says that partner even the very least comfortable with it and not the type where partner nervous from a first time, I don’t know what else to say besides that’s not consensual, this is a very simple fuckass concept people don’t understand
There’s a difference between “yes let me get laid by monster I love it” even as it’s dubious or even noncon But for something very clearly, especially at first, that someone perceives it with an ick, th... Raon
Please refer to my last comment. This is a monster fucker dub con bodice ripper type story. The MC will do some "oh nooo this is so immoral" bit before and then we clearly see her enjoying. It hurting doesn't mean she is saying it's bad. A monster dick is going to be a thing to get used to.
You keep saying if someone does this irl it's bad... Well yes duh ofc. But unless you know a lot of bird monsters... This ain't gonna happen irl. This scenario is not realistic. Bc it's fantasy.
You don't have to like it, no one is forcing you to. No one is putting a gun to your head to decide how morally sound this is.
Also, on the "fiction impacts reality" how???Do you know of a forest with monsters that fuck that we're not aware of? If so please hand over the coordinates lmao. I'll take a turn with Mr tentacles and two dic... Bunni
Your the bitch who told me that me wishing to have a step daddy to fuck was weird? Tell me how r u so different from me lolllll. This bitch doesn't gaf abt fictional or real life rape victims but playing some moral police over my comments.Hypocrite cunt
Your the bitch who told me that me wishing to have a step daddy to fuck was weird? Tell me how r u so different from me lolllll. This bitch doesn't gaf abt fictional or real life rape victims but playing some m... Chloe
Yes Chloe... You saying "if I was his mom I'd be in jail bc he's so yummy" and "I wish he was my step daddy so at least I'd be raped by someone hot" IS WEIRD AS HELL !!
The fact you are calling me crass words when I've not done that to you at all shows how much of a troll you are. Grow up kid.
Yes Chloe... You saying "if I was his mom I'd be in jail bc he's so yummy" and "I wish he was my step daddy so at least I'd be raped by someone hot" IS WEIRD AS HELL !! The fact you are calling me crass words w... Bunni
Why r u exaggerating the things I said lmfao Chloe
This you? Copy and pasted btws
"Why is Taeyoung so pretty? The mere sight of him makes my pussy wet no joke. If I was his mother, I would be in jail"
"What a dumbass ugly community pussy can't even goon to this shit. I m crying, even I didn't turn into a pathetic slut like this after getting gang raped"
"Be grateful it was not some violent rape like the other two monsters. Bitches always got something to complain about"
Not to mention you saying "I am here to goon and dropvulgar comments" and that you absolutely do wish you were raped by a hot stepdad. All your own words.
This you? Copy and pasted btws"Why is Taeyoung so pretty? The mere sight of him makes my pussy wet no joke. If I was his mother, I would be in jail""What a dumbass ugly community pussy can't even goon to this ... Bunni
"I wish he was my step daddy so at least I'd be raped by someone hot" when did I say this? Are u schizophrenic
Please refer to my last comment. This is a monster fucker dub con bodice ripper type story. The MC will do some "oh nooo this is so immoral" bit before and then we clearly see her enjoying. It hurting doesn't m... Bunni
Umm no girl her expression and at the very first chapter, she was hating that shit bad to the core
She starts enjoying it because obviously the body reacts in a way to protect, and she was also fucking drugged where her body wouldnt react right, are you saying that someone being subjected to sex by a stranger while drunk passed out from drinking out at the bar is consensual??
Like bro you keep putting bird monster, monster this, tentacle dick that, WHO CARES what font, what don’t you understand about it being rape when it is no matter what you put on top of it, why do you keep talking like it makes a difference whether it’s real life or not, it’s a depiction of what it is, and no matter what it’s packaged as, e.g a bird fucking a moth or whatever
If one is subjected to it after saying no, it’s rape
The snake man is also rape because that’s coercion via deal and coercion is still rape
Umm no girl her expression and at the very first chapter, she was hating that shit bad to the coreShe starts enjoying it because obviously the body reacts in a way to protect, and she was also fucking drugged w... Raon
When I meet a bird monster in a bar I'll let you know. The first chapter he didn't even have a mouth!! I can concede that that wasn't consensual but that would go Both ways. He had no way to consent either and it was clear he had no humanity in him. He was obviously not in control of himself. But again that would fall into monster territory bc he was also an unwilling participant.
AND YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.! Like how a monster with 0 humanity can feel consent , when they get their mouth. ,they talk and cried , fighting teur humanity..! Like djdjsjn they aren't in their body it might be hell for them too
AND YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.! Like how a monster with 0 humanity can feel consent , when they get their mouth. ,they talk and cried , fighting teur humanity..! Like djdjsjn they aren't in their body it might be ... Hizioed
LITERALLY!!! LIKE OK IF WE'RE HAVING YHE CONSENT CONVERSATION LETS GO ALL IN!! Their mouths literally are LOCKED behind some weird scale mask thing. There is zero way for them to speak to her or showthey are consenting as well. And based off the first few chapters... My hypothesis of this story is they were forcibly turned into monsters and she somehow has the ability to reverse it some. Ofc it's smut rules of "my pussy juice is holy water" lmao but obviously they ALL have zero control of this situation. And the more they are with her the more they have to ability to communicate and even feel more human.
These arent real life people that are like "yeah let's rape this girl" ... It's a "monster brain knows she has the cure so fucks her" Where in there is room for the "hey do I have your consent to put my monster dick in you so I can talk again" ???
Umm no girl her expression and at the very first chapter, she was hating that shit bad to the coreShe starts enjoying it because obviously the body reacts in a way to protect, and she was also fucking drugged w... Raon
is this the first time u came across dubcon/noncon my guy?
is this the first time u came across dubcon/noncon my guy? eve
that's what I'm saying Like omg it's FINE if you don't like it!! But holy shit acting like this monster fucking comic with a sprinkle of dubcon is just as bad as real life horrible rape is so ridiculous
that's what I'm sayingLike omg it's FINE if you don't like it!! But holy shit acting like this monster fucking comic with a sprinkle of dubcon is just as bad as real life horrible rape is so ridiculous Bunni
Faxx queen, also you didn't put anyone down when you discuss a topic like this, I like that.
You don't call people a bitch unlike other people, I'm talking about you Chloe, you didn't have to insult another person when they're speaking their opinions lmao.
Anyways, I totally agree, in the realm of monster fucking and with her pussy juice as the holy magic that give them their humanity, the first scene would really be a dub con monster fucking bcz how tf would a monster, an animal, ask for consent when they themselve lost their humanity? The first few sex scenes would obviously be a genuine monster-fucking, monster, not humans, not someone with the same moral knowledge as a human, but a monster.
But that got me thinking as well, why can the green snake maintain an almost human like knowledge, when the previous two fully integrated into their monster characteristics? My theory would be the snake encountered the old woman, and she healed the snake aleeady, that's why the snake knows some information about the old woman the MC is searching for.
Faxx queen, also you didn't put anyone down when you discuss a topic like this, I like that. You don't call people a bitch unlike other people, I'm talking about you Chloe, you didn't have to insult another per... Him
Just want to say Thank You for saying what I couldn't articulate very well...The things we like in Fiction are because they are fiction and most readers( I really hopped all of us...But unfortunately many don't get the point) know that in reality we won't like if the fantasy became real...
I remember writing something about "Fictional Rape is different from real rape and that is why it is okay to like it in fiction but not in reality" on this platform...I stopped arguing with people over thing for a long time...Nowadays I just say "If you like it then read or else don't cause at the end of day it's just fiction"...Thank You again for you thoughts on this topic.
Just want to say Thank You for saying what I couldn't articulate very well...The things we like in Fiction are because they are fiction and most readers( I really hopped all of us...But unfortunately many don't... BL Army
Ofc!! I absolutely agree!! Fantasy is fantasy! It's ok if something isn't your fantasy but the way people are treated for enjoying a fantasy story is get out of hand. With fictional dub con and non con it has a separation from reality. It's like entering a kink scene, you discuss boundaries beforehand (tags for fiction/summary etc) and then the scene is the play (the story we read). These are paper dolls for us to make dance and act out our fantasies.
I wish more people followed the "don't like don't read". When I read something that I'm not into, I stop reading it and do something else. I don't harass people and moralize over smut. It's exhausting how puritanical things have become
If I were to make an au for this, I'd make the love interest Zenon bc how great revenge it would be for your hotter older brother come back to life years after you thought you got away with his murder.. to steal your wife and then the throne. Plus he has a hot little ponytail
Idk why y'all are calling this rape like the first two had any ability to communicate let alone were human in anyway.
They literally had no mouths Until whatever holy power in her body assisted them.
After that, She has given consent at multiple occasions.
This one Had a mouth and asked for consent.
Also did we forget these are literally monsters.
C'mon, one dude is a bird, the other a snake and our ML is literally a tentacle monster.
If this makes you uncomfortable, that's fine, you don't have to read this.
It's fantasy, not real.
Not every smut series is going to have "hey I want to have sex with you, do you? Please give me super specific written/verbal consent" moments.
It's fine if that's what you want, but don't go pearl clutching every time you don't get it.
This is a fantasy series about a girl who gets fucked by monsters... There's going to be dub con.
The whole point is "I am giving into my desires".
You don't need to write an entire novel about how unethical monster fucking is lol.
That's the whole point is that it's monsters. That you fuck.
Monsters aren't going to take you out for dinner then meet your parents lol.
Also y'all need to understand the history of bodice rippers and the feminist history surrounding.
Women were taught sex is not something you want, but something you don't get to chose.
The reason these stories exist is to give women safe spaces to act on and discuss their desires they can't be open about.
There is decades of research and proof of this.
If you can't handle a story with some light dub con for a priest character to fulfill her desires, then go read something else.
No one is forcing you to be here.
Also, on the "fiction impacts reality" how???
Do you know of a forest with monsters that fuck that we're not aware of?
If so please hand over the coordinates lmao.
I'll take a turn with Mr tentacles and two dick snakey
There’s a difference between “yes let me get laid by monster I love it” even as it’s dubious or even noncon
But for something very clearly, especially at first, that someone perceives it with an ick, that throws me out
I don’t wanna see either man or woman say ‘no’ with a horrified face without being able to do anything like ???
If we started as a horny priest going gaga on these mfs I’d be into pound town but no, we start with her crying and being in pain and saying no like what, that’s rape
It goes from crying and saying no to some random 360 barely a chapter shift from “i dont like it” to “I’ll suck it up and deal with it” and rationalizing otherwise
Once again, if she ENJOYED it at the start, your message would be right
But very clearly, that wasn’t the case
You can say pearl clutching but I wanna see hot monster sex supercombos with 50 different types but not rape, like it’s very clear that it’s super easy to do shit like this without SA, and being coerced isn’t exactly consensual
If someone forces their anatomy into a partner who is saying no at the moment with internal monologue that says that partner even the very least comfortable with it and not the type where partner nervous from a first time, I don’t know what else to say besides that’s not consensual, this is a very simple fuckass concept people don’t understand
Please refer to my last comment. This is a monster fucker dub con bodice ripper type story.
The MC will do some "oh nooo this is so immoral" bit before and then we clearly see her enjoying. It hurting doesn't mean she is saying it's bad. A monster dick is going to be a thing to get used to.
You keep saying if someone does this irl it's bad... Well yes duh ofc. But unless you know a lot of bird monsters... This ain't gonna happen irl. This scenario is not realistic. Bc it's fantasy.
You don't have to like it, no one is forcing you to. No one is putting a gun to your head to decide how morally sound this is.
Your the bitch who told me that me wishing to have a step daddy to fuck was weird? Tell me how r u so different from me lolllll. This bitch doesn't gaf abt fictional or real life rape victims but playing some moral police over my comments.Hypocrite cunt
Yes Chloe... You saying "if I was his mom I'd be in jail bc he's so yummy" and "I wish he was my step daddy so at least I'd be raped by someone hot"
IS WEIRD AS HELL !!
The fact you are calling me crass words when I've not done that to you at all shows how much of a troll you are.
Grow up kid.
Why r u exaggerating the things I said lmfao
This you?
Copy and pasted btws
"Why is Taeyoung so pretty? The mere sight of him makes my pussy wet no joke. If I was his mother, I would be in jail"
"What a dumbass ugly community pussy can't even goon to this shit. I m crying, even I didn't turn into a pathetic slut like this after getting gang raped"
"Be grateful it was not some violent rape like the other two monsters. Bitches always got something to complain about"
Not to mention you saying "I am here to goon and dropvulgar comments" and that you absolutely do wish you were raped by a hot stepdad.
All your own words.
"I wish he was my step daddy so at least I'd be raped by someone hot" when did I say this? Are u schizophrenic
Umm no girl her expression and at the very first chapter, she was hating that shit bad to the core
She starts enjoying it because obviously the body reacts in a way to protect, and she was also fucking drugged where her body wouldnt react right, are you saying that someone being subjected to sex by a stranger while drunk passed out from drinking out at the bar is consensual??
Like bro you keep putting bird monster, monster this, tentacle dick that, WHO CARES what font, what don’t you understand about it being rape when it is no matter what you put on top of it, why do you keep talking like it makes a difference whether it’s real life or not, it’s a depiction of what it is, and no matter what it’s packaged as, e.g a bird fucking a moth or whatever
If one is subjected to it after saying no, it’s rape
The snake man is also rape because that’s coercion via deal and coercion is still rape
When I meet a bird monster in a bar I'll let you know.
The first chapter he didn't even have a mouth!!
I can concede that that wasn't consensual but that would go Both ways. He had no way to consent either and it was clear he had no humanity in him.
He was obviously not in control of himself.
But again that would fall into monster territory bc he was also an unwilling participant.
AND YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.! Like how a monster with 0 humanity can feel consent , when they get their mouth. ,they talk and cried , fighting teur humanity..! Like djdjsjn they aren't in their body it might be hell for them too
LITERALLY!!! LIKE OK IF WE'RE HAVING YHE CONSENT CONVERSATION LETS GO ALL IN!!
Their mouths literally are LOCKED behind some weird scale mask thing.
There is zero way for them to speak to her or showthey are consenting as well.
And based off the first few chapters... My hypothesis of this story is they were forcibly turned into monsters and she somehow has the ability to reverse it some.
Ofc it's smut rules of "my pussy juice is holy water" lmao but obviously they ALL have zero control of this situation.
And the more they are with her the more they have to ability to communicate and even feel more human.
These arent real life people that are like "yeah let's rape this girl" ... It's a "monster brain knows she has the cure so fucks her"
Where in there is room for the "hey do I have your consent to put my monster dick in you so I can talk again" ???
is this the first time u came across dubcon/noncon my guy?
that's what I'm saying
Like omg it's FINE if you don't like it!!
But holy shit acting like this monster fucking comic with a sprinkle of dubcon is just as bad as real life horrible rape is so ridiculous
Faxx queen, also you didn't put anyone down when you discuss a topic like this, I like that.
You don't call people a bitch unlike other people, I'm talking about you Chloe, you didn't have to insult another person when they're speaking their opinions lmao.
Anyways, I totally agree, in the realm of monster fucking and with her pussy juice as the holy magic that give them their humanity, the first scene would really be a dub con monster fucking bcz how tf would a monster, an animal, ask for consent when they themselve lost their humanity? The first few sex scenes would obviously be a genuine monster-fucking, monster, not humans, not someone with the same moral knowledge as a human, but a monster.
But that got me thinking as well, why can the green snake maintain an almost human like knowledge, when the previous two fully integrated into their monster characteristics? My theory would be the snake encountered the old woman, and she healed the snake aleeady, that's why the snake knows some information about the old woman the MC is searching for.
Thank you
Just want to say Thank You for saying what I couldn't articulate very well...The things we like in Fiction are because they are fiction and most readers( I really hopped all of us...But unfortunately many don't get the point) know that in reality we won't like if the fantasy became real...
I remember writing something about "Fictional Rape is different from real rape and that is why it is okay to like it in fiction but not in reality" on this platform...I stopped arguing with people over thing for a long time...Nowadays I just say "If you like it then read or else don't cause at the end of day it's just fiction"...Thank You again for you thoughts on this topic.
Ofc!! I absolutely agree!!
Fantasy is fantasy!
It's ok if something isn't your fantasy but the way people are treated for enjoying a fantasy story is get out of hand.
With fictional dub con and non con it has a separation from reality.
It's like entering a kink scene, you discuss boundaries beforehand (tags for fiction/summary etc) and then the scene is the play (the story we read).
These are paper dolls for us to make dance and act out our fantasies.
I wish more people followed the "don't like don't read". When I read something that I'm not into, I stop reading it and do something else.
I don't harass people and moralize over smut.
It's exhausting how puritanical things have become