I get people are upset, but listen to BOTH of their words. He has endured WAR and bloodshed for 3 years just to get back to her.
And they've barely been together for a full year.
Now he has to lose her again.
To him the best solution is to say fuck everyone and run away.
She is tired of hiding and wants to stand on her own two feet.
They love each other, but both have different ideas of how to protect the other.
None of them are wrong per say, but need better communication and understanding.
He is handling it wrong ofc, but it's not like he's hit her or locked her up, he even left the room to calm his anger.
Arguments are common, it makes sense for the time period. Chivalry back then was keeping your wife safe and tucked away while you fight.
She is carving a path that is very very rare for women to do.
They both need time and understanding of each other.
Finally a mature and well regulated stable minded reader. I completely agree with this
Decades of enjoying reading and analysis gives you a great idea of nuance and character development lol. Most of these kids probably are flunking English and don't understand the curtains being blue may actually have a deeper meaning lol.
People also forget that it's not even been a full year in story. He's been without her longer than with her. His rage and frustration is completely understandable. He still needs to be better, but none of this makes him abusive lol.
Every new upload you can see where the artist has learned and developed their skills!! I love still seeing the fun big shoujo eyes while watching the art get better and better!!
I love the polish they've been adding now.
In the beginning you could tell they struggled with certain angles and anatomy but it truly has gotten so much better over the last few years!!
"this is rape!" Y'all say...
Then she enters the hallucinations herself and her first thought is
"oh I have books about this, I've always wanted to experience tentacles like this."
Also c'mon y'all .. tentacles is where yall get scared?
Lmfao and just because she's enjoying it means naos is too ? The beginning of this arc was definitely rape as he rejected it multiple times desires ≠ consent pornos have fried ur brain ngl
Well considering it's all a hallucination til this chapter and this whole arc is about him accepting his desires... And we see her now joining to further help him accept his desires and relieve himself of his guilt... I think calling it rape is a stretch.
Especially bc he only feels hesitant is bc he doesn't want to hurt her, and here she is expressing she's consenting.
His whole character growth is about him accepting he's allowed to have desires and learning to love and accept these parts of himself.
We even see the tentacles are led by his inner thoughts and desires. The only hesitation he has is from his fear of hurting her or taking advantage of her.
And she has shown time and time again she is fully willing and wanting.
The only hang up is the guilt and fear he has to work through.
If you've read this far and not understood the plot yet and just see this as "porn rot" then I think this story just isn't for you. And that's fine!
Literally that’s this whole ass story?? Do you think anything about this is whole hearted consent? At the minimum it’s dub con, so genuinely get off your high horse lmao
Not reading all that so you can justify rape
Climb up from the gutter u fucking roach i said what I said which was the bare minimum lmfao
OP blocked me for pointing out that the whole story is dub con from the start lmao, so I wouldn’t worry too much about their opinion
Ikr?? Just bc pania wanted to experience tentacles thing doesn't mean being forced to do that isn't r*pe. It's like saying just bc you want to experience s*x mean someone forcing you isn't assault. The beginning of this arc is definitely r*pe like you said. Especially BECAUSE it was the succubus forcing naos. Since it's pania now, naos might be more open to this all and consent to it, which would not be considered sa. But these gooners don't have basic concept of consent ig
“These gooners” like you haven’t been reading a dub con story with the rest of us
Lmaooo you have a story on your reading list with this EXACT set up of non con with tentacles why is it ok in that one and not here?
Hey dude, can you explain how this is worse than the "how to tame a knight" that is literally nothing But a tentacle rape fantasy (not even a succubus controlled it's literally just a monster that fucks him for fun)
and the "until I get rid of the husband that watches me" where she literally was temporarily paralyzed by her father in law and her husband is keeping her that way...
That YOU. Have in your reading list?
I mean if we want to talk about rape... This is obviously way more consensual than those two stories.
So maybe get off your high horse?
The gooner here seems to be you.
Every accusation is a confession I suppose lol.
She also was not forced , she enters the hallucinations of her own will to help. That literally is her consenting, and then extra so when she joins and says this is a fantasy she has had for a while.
Noas has dub con at worst, bc we know this is his desires, and the only thing holding him back is fear. Again, that's his whole character arc. He literally says out loud"I want to cum" like over and over. But continues to hold back bc of his fear of hurting her.
But if you can understand fantasy when it's nothing but a tentacle monster and a dude with zero consent... You can understand fantasy here.
I had to check and there's Several. And the tentacles one is so much worse than this bc it's straight up just a knight getting caught by a fuck monster and ravaged for several chapters. Like there is Zero consent there??
Hypocritical to call us gooners lmao
But this has multiple moments of showing consent in various ways.
Also think these kids need to understand there are different ways to consent that aren't saying "I am consenting to this sex with you" verbatim.
Non verbal consent is a thing, verbal consent doesn't have to look like a contract deal either. Pania saying "I've always wanted to do this" and learning how to control the tentacles to touch him and telling him he's ok... Is her giving consent and giving him reassurance his desires are ok.
So she's even giving him a safe space to feel comfortable to consent further.
@st4rja3 You've literally been reading Roses and Champagne which has Much worse and very violent and undeniable rape scenes.
You're in the gutter here with us babes.
I also got blocked immediately lol. I guess they weren't expecting anyone to actually be analyzing the story and understanding the character arcs? Like hello there's a plot here too. And it's about being more honest with yourself and your desires.
They also have some serious rape stories in their reading list so they gotta stop with the stones in glass houses lol.
Grow up i never said I wasn't reading it but its obviously rape in the beginning but ig a dumb fuck wouldn't understand
Yall got blocked bc ur both dumb asf and if I have any rape story in my list im pretty sure I either am not reading it I mark reading before I start stuff so I can see updates and when its finished and if I am reading it I have no problem bring up rape involvement so that wasn't the eat you thought it was yall aren't worth my time tho so converse among the dumbasses
And btw I marked it as reading bc i seem it on tiktok have not read it bc i seen ppl talking about the rape you stupid tramp lmfao
What r u talking ab ???? It no story named that on my list lmfao
You're going to need to rewrite that horrid run on sentence. Nothing you said made any sense. Punctuation is important babes!
Also you should check who I'm responding to before assuming it's you lol. I only responded to you the once.
I was very obviously (bc it even shows who I responded to) responding to a different comment and person.
Thanks for showing off your spectacular reading abilities lol. Stay in school kiddo
"I put it in my reading list BC of the rape you tramp" is not the cool excuse you think it is lol.
Like why would you do that lmao
First things first, are you so unemployed that you're looking through someone's profile trying to find dirt on them?? Second, I didn't even realize I had that on my reading list. I probably added it long time ago, when the story first came out. And added only because the cover looked interesting. Not because it was some r*pe type of shit. I once read a tentacle type of manhwa where the guy could turn into both the tentacle thing and also had human form, I probably thought this story was similar. And I haven't even read it till now. AND it's been months since I even opened this website.
Also, let's just SAY I was reading it for some r*pe tentacle type of plot, two wrongs doesn't make one right. it doesn't change the fact that this succubus girl forcing naos to do stuff with the tentacle is r*pe. SA is SA. You people just want to excuse your gooner ass no matter what lol
2 gooners blocking me just because I pointed out something obvious ig lol
I didn't, someone else did lol. Also you know the added date for these are public right? It was the last thing you added to your list.
I could click on your profile by accident and it's the very first thing i'd see.
Added 3 months ago lol.
And the cover is literally him covered in tentacles looking scared. And the title is literally "how to tame a knight", the synopsis straight up says his squad was killed and he was abducted by a tentacle monster for sex. it came out in 2022 apparently. Idk how much more clear something has to say "this is about noncon tentacle porn"
And you still added it?
Nah we don't excuse rape, we just can use our brains to analyze the difference between this, a smut series written by a woman going through many different smut situations where enthusiastic consent is given at multiple moments... And what you're reading which is just undeniable abduction and tentacle rape.
Whatever floats your boat babes, just be honest about it lol.
I'm a grown adult, I'm allowed to enjoy smut.
Just don't come to me spewing puritanical crap with the most clear as day rape series in your list like a hypocrite.
And no I didn't block you, I just have a life and a job. If you hadn't responded again I would have continued to forget about this lol.
Literally the synopsis of the one you added
"Leonhardt, the noble Commander of the Kingdom's Holy Knights, leads his unit on a monster subjugation mission, only for the entire company to be captured by the monster itself. Keles, a beast-like monster, holds the knights hostage and offers Leonhardt a vile and lewd proposition: "Before long, you will be begging me for [sex]. Shaking your ass like a sow in heat." The highest knight in the kingdom is now at the mercy of a demon. Can Leonhardt maintain his dignity and honor, or will Keles succeed in breaking the noble commander and turning him into a desperate, willing sacrifice?"
Oh yeah... That's sooo consensual lol
And you have issues with this story?? Where they say over and over *I like this/I'm consenting/it's ok" etc etc
Pls pls pls give us anal play with him
Naos is so uptight about his desires, he needs to let loose
16 of y'all are homophobic prudes!! Let a man enjoy a tentacle up his butt! Don't y'all know of the erogenous zone there?!
May have coiv messing with my brain rn but y'all need to lock in to some real freak shit
I literally already forgot the ntr chapter happened, why is everyone still hung up on it?
Writing whole novels in the comments about how much you dislike something instead of just moving on shows immaturity and insecurity.
Calling people bitches and being horribly nasty Does show immaturity.
If you can't handle scenes of concubines, don't read historical fiction where concubines are integral to the story.
(Also going to mention, reverse harem is literally a genre. There are many very popular stories where women have their own harems)
Plus the entire point of that scene was for him to realize he only liked her.
He's not been with anyone else since.
Idk if y'all just don't know how characters work, but they're supposed to grow, change and develop as the story does.
An emperor with a madness that makes him kill recklessly and have no compassion for others, is going to be someone who does shitty things as he heals from his madness.
He's even mellowed out a lot in the recent chapters.
Don't like don't read, is a great thing to remember here. Remember kids, a drawing that does bad or not nice things, is not an endorsement of those actions but merely a plot device/character foil/metaphor/following a story theme etc etc.
You are well within your right to have an opinion on a story, you're even allowed to dislike it.
However....If you are not mature enough to handle when a drawing does something distasteful, enough to where you spew intense rage filled abusive language at other readers, then you should not be reading this kind of content.
And you should certainly not be nasty to other readers when they try to explain the plot or say "hey it's ok you don't have to read this".
You are not morally superior bc you dislike what a drawing did. You are especially not morally superior when calling people bitches when they call you out on your behavior.
Holy based response, I'm following
Lolol yww
Also find it funny people call it cheating when like.... The concubine is his legal wife. She is just a maid. If we're going to talk about cheating and ntr... She is the affair partner, not the concubine.
I also do think people have gotten to comfortable with not being uncomfortable. A bad thing or miscommunication or a drama plot point happening in a story is SUPPOSED to make you uncomfortable! If a characters actions bother you .. congratulations the author did their job.
If you're uncomfortable in a scene where the MC is made to watch a mad king sleep with his wife .. congratulations you felt exactly what the author wanted you to.
The problem comes when these kids throw a fit and claim some moral "this is evil and shouldn't be read by anyone" grandstanding.
And maybe my current covid infected brain isn't explaining this right but my god... Why do we want every character to do the right perfect thing all the time every time???
That makes for such a boring story !!!
Drama is good! Angst is good!
Hey actually queer person here, none of y'all know what twink means if you think the ML is a twink. Our MC you could maybe call a twink.
But big muscles and sharp facial features do not make one a twink.
He is a pretty man, and he has been so since the beginning.
The art didn't change.
I would also suggest yall look up how lighting can change skin tones in art. If you're in a well lit room, skin will look lighter. Darker room does the opposite.
Yes the skin will look different in different chapters... Bc they are in different rooms at different times of day.
Stop using queer slang if you don't know shit about it please!!!
Girl, if this guy isn't a twink, than you need to go to the gym more often to see what "big muscles and sharp facial features" on man, really looks like...
I think you misunderstood, OP is saying the ML doesn't look like a twink, not the MC
Oh lol, I have dyslexia, OP sorry for misunderstanding
Seeing the parents when they were young is always such a great "ohhh y'all are the root of this!! "
Bc our ml was not a bad kid. He wasn't even a bad guy. But his father thoroughly corrupted him.. then his wife .. which just started this entire thing.
I just feel bad for them now. At least they're together as a family now? Maybe?
her parents are good people, they aren't evil. But they made a MASSIVE MISTAKE in how they sheltered her and talked about the dark area.
They fucked up bad
If I were to make an au for this, I'd make the love interest Zenon bc how great revenge it would be for your hotter older brother come back to life years after you thought you got away with his murder.. to steal your wife and then the throne.
Plus he has a hot little ponytail