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Your having a hard time liking him because Jun is portrayed as a flawed character, he's not your typical overly nice kind to everyone selfless bottom which makes him actually more like a human then your nice bottom in a yaoi book, I don't think Jun is a "bad" person, I think the word your looking for is flawed because Jun haven't done anything that makes him a bad person, he fakes being nice sure but that doesn't make anyone "bad" we all faked being nice to someone in our life at some point, and the reason is literally just so he couldn't get picked on, in Korea bullying is literally brutal there so Jun is quite realistic for his character, being a teen gay dude living in Korea is hard enough, avoiding your identity getting out plus trying to not be the subject of bullying and getting assaulted sexually by your crush I doubt anyone could still be a nice person while being under that pressure plus being a victim as well, that's just not realistic and I don't think author wants to go for that, your also forgetting Jun is a teenager guy, teen dudes are one if not the most selfish group of ppl oat, you would lose your mind if author actually decided to portray your typical teen dude in Jun, top is the actual bad person here, and Jun shouldn't have to be the perfect victim for you to sympathy for, and you will encounter his type of character irl alot, this is why i like him, the only thing going for him is how realistic he is, which author made sure to point out in many chapters, you should probably quit reading this and try another work from the author, since you enjoy the typical nice bottom I feel like Winter Season would be worth checking out.

Wtf is this big paragraph. Everyone finds hard to like mc because he's crazy not flawed lol

Being flawed is one thing but when the flaw is constant self consciousness and self loathing, the second hand embarrassment gets too much for me. Characters being self aware is cool, but when theyre constantly thinking of themselves as these manipulative masterminds for being a little nicer than normal at school, it gets kind of cringe.

I'm confused am I not allowed to share my opinion or something? saying wtf is that paragraph when I'm just sharing my thoughts, I swear tiktok rotted yalls brains if you can't even handle a simple paragraph, like this is literally a comment section, please mc is nowhere crazy lmao have you not seen the way Korea's school system works? Like I said all he did was keep himself safe from being a target of bullying, its already hard enough being a student there now imagine being a closet gay, seeing how ppl there reacted when that other dude got outed and bullied, he's literally just fearing for himself, I'm not seeing he's innocent but calling him crazy just makes me think you didn't understand his character at all.

No I get it lmao I really dislike these scenes, have to immediately scroll away whenever he talks like that about him or especially his thoughts on the top, he makes him look like some manipulative gaslighter god and I cringe right away

Mc is smart but egoist, self cautious, insecure and have no backbone at vulnerable moments, can we please understand the words we're using, flawed = having bad traits, odd habits/behaviour, makse mistakes but arent a bad person, he's literally flawed, we have seen mc being nice multiple times, his literally getting his development arc in the lasted characters, being crazy = having unpredictable behaviour, lashing out, causing troubles/mistakes for the sake of it, harming someone physically for fun, using violence as a way to vent his anger, in nowhere did Jun show any crazy behaviour at all, matter fact that describes the top more than Jun, I'm not sure where you get the fact that he's crazy from his character, my bro is not that tough to be crazy I promise you

I know what flaws mean. And I don't consider flaws as anything of a big deal in fact I like people who have flaws and quite dislike the people who are perfect. But mc is literally crazy. When he was in the hospital , he literally thought that he's proud that after all those violent treatment he went through from Yohan bitch , "he's glad that he's at least use of him , he's glad that he could help Yohan"

And for your information about word description , I don't know lack English than you so you don't have to show me word meanings. I meant what I said , mc is crazy. He didn't stop with the thought of being glad that he was helpful to the guy he got beaten up from , he also came up with even crazier or should I say "stupid" idea of starting to fall for Jayeon to get rid of his feelings for Yohan.

If these are not being crazy to you then you're not sane either

Soooo flawed lmao, you literally described that, like I said what do you think being flawed means? That I stole from a bookstore then went and was nice to a grandma on the street? Jun is capable of being nice when he isn't worrying about his position in school, having bad traits which what you just stated is part of being flawed, being a flawed person is making mistakes, bad actions for his own gain which Jun have did multiple times, all of the stuff you stated was because Jun sees Yohan as the top of the school, he literally sucked up to him because he wants his ass to be free from being a target from bullying which alot of actual Korean students do to avoid getting bullied, like I said you are giving him too much credit, Jun is not capable of being crazy, he's literally been shown to be a coward multiple times, he was about to force himself to fall inlove with some dude just so he could save himself from being a target again, he's self centered and all he thinks about is his safety in all of the series, this is why we see him making bad choices, for the sake of getting himself out of getting targeted which was not the solution as the author showed in his getting bullied arc, if you characterise any character w bad choices as crazy then why are you even reading this? Better off just reading these porn gay stories where the characters are actually crazy.

Girl fym I'm not sane either shit isn't that serious all because I said your doing too much for a coward twink, again, you have not seen crazy nor consumed works that has actual crazy characters if you think my dude is insane, mf just a dumb teen dude thinking hes allat, atp just think whatever you want

Bro you writing all this and saying Jun is not crazy sounding really hilarious to me.

Jun sucked upto Yohan and then he got beaten up by the same dude , he still has feelings for him. He's a masochist or what ? Then he decides to fall for Jayeon, just so he can get rid of his feelings for Yohan. Wasn't that leg break , hand fractures, enough to stop loving Yohan , you need another guy. Can't he ever live without sucking up to anyone ??

It's not like he ever was bullied severely because he didn't follow anyone strong lol.

Before he used to suck upto his crush , then Yohan then Jaeyeon. What's this guy's problem ? This time Jaeyeon is not even at the top of the food chain or whatever. Bro still gotta follow a guy ! He has got no spine.

One thing I never understood about people that they love the same person they get hurt by. I don't think this is a flaw but a disease. And I metamorphically saying that disease is crazy.

So we finally got to the bottom of why you think he's crazy, but I'm afraid what you stated is not crazy by definition, you just simply think he's crazy cus bro's bad at picking his love interests, he literally says so himself in the early chapters that he got a bad taste in men, the reason why he wants to suck up to the other dude is because its the safest option for him, since yohan being the crazy person himself is unpredictable and Jun is afraid of staying by his side then getting betrayed or yohan falling into another outburst and causing Jun to get bullied again, you said jun was not severely bullied to be that much of a suck up, however your forgetting the main reason why jun is always afraid, hes a closet gay teen in a korean school, most of the time jun is mainly worried that he will get outed, and that alone is a pressure on itself that you wont get, he himself saw what getting outed does, i would be fearing for my life as well, another point is that you will see Jun in alot of ppl irl, especially in high school, teens will literally stay in abusive relationships because they feel safe with the other person when they start being nice for a second they automatically brush off their partner's abusive behaviour, does that make all these ppl crazy in your mind? your clearly young and haven't encountered or is educated on abusive relationships, Jun can not help who he loves, if that is actually controllable you will not see any victims irl, not many ppl can just dip at any abusive behaviour from their partner, heck even if Jun ignores yohan and grows a backbone yohan will literally not leave him alone we have seen that the latest chapters, I'm afraid if you want Jun to dip there won't be any story, and it was stated even if Jun leaves yohan will follow him, what do you want Jun to do in the situation? Off himself? Fly abroad? He's stuck w a crazy person who's gonna get more crazy after they graduate from high school, Jun will unfortunately be stuck in an abusive relationship whether we like it or not, it's not the first yaoi to do this and won't be the last, if you hold such resentment for the mc then why even bother continuing to read this? I wouldn't read a work if I dislike the literal main character to that degree, all in all I'm not gonna keep replying, I already explained Jun's behaviour, if you want to keep thinking that he's crazy them be my guest gang at the end of the day he's fictional.

He is a very flawed character. I have a hard time relating to him because to me I see all the traits of a ‘villain’ or bystander character. I understand the situation and the environment that Jun is in while also being closeted. But I’m 30+ chapters in and all I really see is him being narcissistic, manipulative, cunning and cold. It feels a little flat. I guess I wish I could’ve seen more nuance to his character. He doesn’t feel guilt, compassion or sympathy so I could understand why people may think he’s crazy or sociopathic. I have met people like Jun IRL, they are the type who don’t really see you as a real person, and may use you only for their own goals. He’s also the typical “I need the ml to save me” but I guess it’s understandable. I don’t have sympathy for Jun because of the way his actions and thoughts are portrayed so maybe that is what the author was going for. And for the record Jun He is a very flawed character. I have a hard time relating to him because to me I see all the traits of a ‘villain’ or bystander character. I understand the situation and the environment that Jun is in while also being a closeted homosexual. But I’m 30+ chapters in and all I really see is him being narcissistic, manipulative, cunning and cold. It feels a little flat. I guess I wish I could’ve seen more nuance to his character. He doesn’t feel guilt, compassion or sympathy so I could understand why people may think he’s crazy or psychopathic. I have met people like Jun IRL, they are the type who don’t really see you as a real person, and use you only for their own goals. Also Jun IS your typical teen dude, he has a high ego, views himself as better than everyone, and follows whoever is the strongest. But yes you are correct, he is very much flawed and some people enjoy those type of characters and unfortunately I am one of those people. Jun “fakes” being nice in a way that feels psychopathic though, he’s not doing it so that he doesn’t get bullied, it just makes him look and feel better. Jun could not give two fucks about bullying in general, so long as he’s not the one at the center of it. Jun is not a victim of bullying like Tae San is. In my opinion he just is not a very likable main character and that’s fine, there’s plenty of unlikable main characters out there. And I think it’s mainly because the author doesn’t show any of Jun’s positive character traits. It’s not unfathomable to show a bunch of negative character traits and not have people, dissociate from the character, it’s just like with the ml. But maybe that’s why Jun and Yohan are for each other.