I fckin hate when people expect Ian to change in one night? Is that even fckin possible? Do you fckin understand what he has gone through growing up? Do you people even have a basic comprehensive skills to even understand this story? Wet sand needs mature readers not whinny azz girlies who still in school.
Ian with happiness, love and freedom are the real soulmates. Just saying ~
Never expect a Scarface stans to talk about the actual plot. They will never cause they have zero understanding about the plot ha!
I really gotta give it to Jo stans. How you guys coping this torture? The moment you decided to hope for something your hopes and expectations are getting smashed to the core. It makes you question "am I wrong to expect something from Jo or for him to be the endgame". That's how fckin tortures this story especially for Jo stans. Let me show respect to you guys
I got way too attached to Jo from the start... so seeing him being the second option hurts so bad. Like, why does the MC do him like this? If he don't like him, he should just reject him. It's that easy... Yet here he is, banging both left and right. Crazy.. (I'm hurt someone save me from this)
not very well. currently rocking back and forth screaming. i am going to claw my own eyes out.
Ian still loves TJ. This intensity of emotion cannot be easily hidden. He cannot even deceive an outsider, let alone himself. I think TJ and Ian both love each other in their own toxic way. He referred TJ as his only family. The same with TJ when he said Ian was his own family. They are both so toxic but at the same time they have a deep condescendance. They hurt each other but also can't stay away from each other. I don't see the point of Ian hesitating to leave TJ when he can't. Why don't they just COMMUNICATE and be honest about their feelings for god sake!! They had 19 years to end up together but still didn't. I only wish Ian to stop playing with Jo's emotion but he's very comfortable with opening up with Jo. The only person that's honest about his feelings and thoughts in the story is Jo. I said before Jo is the therapist for Ian's complicated relationship and life.
For me this particular line actually sounds very hurtful. Jo: are you thinking about that person. At least handsome boy is fully aware now that he has a rival. Sometimes I can't help but feel sorry for him. It's not his fault to fall in love. WS community have been very hard on him for no reason. They already calling him a loser in a losing battle. They actually should thank Jo cause he actually doing something that wasn't achievable between Ian and TJ.
It’s more of codependency rather than love. If you re-read chapter 15, it’s implied Ian doesn’t have the same feelings for TJ as used to. And then in ch. 26, TJ stated he’s using Ian’s guilt for him to keep Ian by his side.
So I assume Ian is constantly by his side and caring for him out of guilt and can’t push him away. There’s also that Orion story foreshadowing in ch.15.
Codependency is one explanation for “they hurt each other but can’t stay away from each other”. Their history ties them to a bed together. Ian already knows it’s toxic, but he probably can’t help but feel guilty cause of something I’m not too sure of.
TJ is the most loved character despite his WRONGDOING while Jo is actually the most hated character FOR NO REASON in the history of love triangle. Why? cause the build-up for TJ what made him stand out more than Jo. People would not have dragged or hate Jo if he wasn't TJ's rival. Let's face it nice people are boring cause there's no excitement that's why most readers find him as the least interesting character compared to TJ but it's too soon to judge anything.
True but they shouldn’t justify any of TJ’s toxicity or Ian’s while they simp. And not hate Jo since he didn’t do shit to any of them, they’re just threatened by his presence being the possible ML. I don’t get what’s so good about “bad boys”.
I do think that people are highly threatened by his presence cause he made something that wasn't achievable between Ian and TJ for the past 19 years. TJ is a perfect example of a character that possessed the infamous "bad boy" characteristics and appearance. This type of characters always look more superior than any regular characters. In this sense he looks superior than Jo. He's hot, exude sex appeal, notorious and have an aggressive demeanour which is why he stands out more but Jo is actually more handsome.
Exactly! They’re threatened by the fact that Jo is actually helping Ian more than TJ could and Ian could help themselves. Jo is actually more handsome in all aspects, his beauty mark especially.
True, Jo is actually helping Ian and his relationship with TJ while moving the plot. At first I thought TJ and Ian are brothers cause they kinda look similar. I think his blue eyes, beauty mark and long lashes what makes him more handsome.
people who hate joe literally just like the sex between tj and ian lol. joe has been shown from the start as a pure hearted sweet person who's very caring and literally has done no wrong so far. so the fact that people hate him just shows they want the toxic relationship between ian and tj to continue.
Exactly. So many comments I’ve seen on TikTok saying Ian is better cause of their chemistry and how long they’ve been together…but they rarely mention TJ’s good aspects. It’s just about the length of their relationship and seems to ignore how Ian has trauma and feels guilty so he’s holding/is attached to TJ who also shares that trauma/guilt with him.
Some are toxic to the point of calling Jo a bystander and random. They are threatened by the fact he’s changing Ian slowly.
yeah they all need to escape each other tbh. like maybe when ian gets therapy he can be with joe or after a lot of time has passed because i feel like ian is not mentally okay right now. and ian's carrying so much burden and trauma with him that he doesn't need a relationship right now and probably can't love joe the way he wants to be loved.
so the solution is literally just some time and therapy and working on themselves and bam problem solved. but obviously the author won't do that right now lol.
The author of ''Shutline'' is a TJIAN supporter while the author of ''The Pizza Delivery Man'' supports JOIAN.