JustHere's Questions (51)

Because the victims deserved it

I agree so much with you, even if it’s indirect, rape is still rape and it’s disgusting. I don’t understand how people can defend rapist or people who have helped commit an act of rape. It’s just so gross and upsetting knowing that people are fine with this.

Your point is very valid but they did it first to Juha. Gotta know how it feels YK? I do think it's still very wrong that he did that but it's not as bad as joo jaekyung

NOBODY DESERVES TO RAPED. I’m fine with murder and torture and stuff, but rape is just so gross and nasty. There isn’t anybody in the world I hate enough to want them to be raped, do you know how terrifying that is. Nobody deserves that

Girly the guys that were the victims were literally Mafia. Killed people and what not. If they went to jail they'd get raped there too. That's literally what people wish for when rapists get life sentences instead of death penalty. It's not a 100% justifiable but maybe like 30? Comparing him with joo jaekyung is crazy tho

If someone is raped, I think they would know how terrible that experience is. If I ever got raped, I would most likely hate my realist to death and want them to die in the worst way possible, but rape is just something I don’t want anybody to experience. It’s just so de-humanizing and makes you feel so powerless. It’s terrible and I don’t get how you could wish that on someone else

Because they felt it was ok to do it to someone else? If they thought it was gonna be fun, how ABT they experience that fun themselves? None of us is in the wrong here btw

I’m pretty sure he knows how terrifying it is and wanted him to feel the same fear Jooha felt, but I do agree it’s fucked up of him to do that. No matter the context.

Yeah, the fact that people like that exist and how normalized it is in sertain places just makes me sick. I don’t wish for life sentace, I want death so someone as sick as those people don’t exist in the earth anymore. I don’t get why rape is so normalized as it is in yaoi in the first place. And I think because people read so much yaoi, they get so desensitized to it and start not caring when people get raped in books, irl too.

You do realise the guy that was raped, didnt even rape Jooha???

I understand why you think that, but it still doesn’t make it ok. Raping someone else or getting revenge on a rapist by making them get raped doesn’t make you any better of a person than they are. I’m not some type of super moral and pure person here who thinks that people shouldn’t take revenge, but I really just hate rape as whole, and it just disgusts me so much.(I hope you don’t think I’m getting mad at you, I respect your opinion and I just also want to share mine)

Pitting Victims and Deserved it in the same sentence is wild

Fr. Calling them victims just shows that they didn’t deserve it

Comparing to Joo Jaekyung isnt crazy. He litterly did something messed up..I didnt see Jaekyung organized someone to raped by over 30 people. You only look past the shit Dooshik did because he treats Jooha well .

But if he did that to Jooha, you guys would be hating on his character.

its funny how the seme just has to be nice to the uke to be considered decent.

it frustrates me because they are justifying it, but the person who got raped, didnt even rape Jooha. it was his brother. Dooshik just wanted to cause harm to the person the perpetrator cared about. Thats even more messed up

Yeah. An asshole in love doesn’t make him not an asshole

Exactly!!

Collective reply to everything:
I put victims in the sentence cuz yeah he was a victim but he's a literal criminal
Speaking of which, he might not be directly related to the crime, doesn't make it any better cuz he was related to other things and let his brother do it.
I said it's not fully justifiable ofc. Because it IS a crime afterall. I admit it was fucked up but it doesn't make dooshik hateable to a greater extent. Yaoi reader community as a whole is very insensitive to rapes thus they ignore this. I'm not included but somewhere there, i do not hate him
Speaking of Joo jaekyung, he had no reason to do so. He was in his right mind and could easily avoid it by letting him go when he withdrew his consent. He literally showcases his body without him knowing. He's disgusting as fuck. Let's not compare him to dooshik that's all.

Both Dooshik and Jaekyung are shit people. Dooshik also had no reason to organize that rape and yes he was a criminal but it was still his brother who did that shit, the brother should have been punished and how does it not make Dooshik hateable? cause I hated him immediately.

Hateable to others Dearie, i know people who read literal rapes. World is a fucked up place YK?
I guess he didn't do it to the rapist brother because he didn't know where he was hiding and lured him with his brother? Idk I don't remember anymore. But I think he didn't do it to him because he needed that brother for his plan or something

Rape does in fact make someone more hateable even if they’ve committed a lot of crimes. Idk who we are comparing together as I don’t remember any names from the little of the story I have read, but if it’s the two rapist then ew to both of them. And as I don’t really know who your talking about, if it’s the victim your saying who deserved it because he was showcasing his body, ew to you, if not, I very much apologize. I appreciate this back and forth conversation as it’s always fun to share opinions and argue with other people, but I all hope the soon we all just learn to hate rapist. Even if they’re hot, even if they’re the seme to the uke, and even if we think the other person deserved it.

Yeah Dooshik is a POS.

Oh no the showcasing the body thing is from another story and it's totally not what u think it is.
Basically joo jaekyung blind folded dan and put headphones on him and did things to him and showed it to other people and Dan didn't know anything about it
I never said dooshik doesn't deserve hate. It's simply not at much as what joo jaekyung gets because he is a shittier person.
I don't see an issue with dooshik getting hate, just that he's a better person than joo jaekyung.

Sorry but idk what pos stands for?

Piece of shit

I see

Here's a valid reason for liking him: he's not real and people can do whatever they wanna

That’s honestly a terrible way of looking at things. That’s like saying it’s okay to draw kids getting raped because it’s fake because like who cares if someone is a sexual predator if they don’t actually act on their nasty impulses. It’s not ok even if it’s just fake, stuff like rape is real and it happens way to much in real life

Learn to separate reality from fiction. Authors write stories about murder so do you think they actually condone real murder???

Based, so dumb when people have moral arguments on fictional characters. Like he’s literally pixels…

Of course not!!!??? There’s some things that are ok and not ok to write about. Stories can have rape in them that’s fine. All this is about is that I don’t like people who rape, real or fake, and that it’s not ok for people too write about rape if they’re fetishizing it for they’re own sexual pleasure.

But that doesn’t mean I have to like them, fake or not I don’t like them, just like people hate villians in story’s, or mei mei in jjk

WE NEED TO POPULARIZE HATING ON RAPER’S!!!!! Idc if their hot, If they rape, it’s an immediate no

He did what

GULP… HE DID WHAT NOW

So the guy who gets graped. his brother grapes the MC. and the ML gets revenge by getting gang members to grape his twin brother.

I dont disagree with the revenge part. but I cant agree with the graping part.

What did they all do? So I can avoid reading it cause some of them are still on my list to read.

Joowon and TJ - are both shit characters, but their srans will justify their actions. They arent unique or interesting characters. Its like the authors looked at cliche semes and applied to their characters. They sre the typical "Im gonna push you away because I love you but Im still gonna have sex with you, but when a new man comes along Im gonna realise how I really feel" type of semes. MiINGHWA MAY HAVE TOXIC SEMES. BUT ATLEAST SHE DOESNT NEED TO ADD A LOVE TRIANGLE, JUST TO USE THE SECOND LEAD AS A CATALYST FOR THE END GAME.

Haeyoung - is a rapist and he beats the uke
The Ex - is a rapist and he beats the uke (He wasn't end game thank goodness)

Damn and after all those shts they still ended up with these mfs?

Joowon - ends up with the uke, but I still believe the author was forced into doing that, because she put a whole creators note explaining why she ended it like that. almost as if she needed to justify it. Stange if you ask me.

Wet Sand is still ongoing, so theres hope. Unfortunately TJ has a lot of stans (so the author may be forced to pick him as end game, because of crazy stans)

Non Zero Sum - Novel Spoilers - He ends up with Haeyoung after a convient memory loss trope.

Ex - He doesnt end up with the ex

The Joowon & TJ stans will tell you to read it, But trust me dont. its not worth it, especially when the second lead is more interesting and better, but they are used to move foward the main couple. but maybe wet sand will end better than love or hate.

ALSO

The MC and ML in these stories conveniently have history together, eg Haesoo and Joowon were stepbrothers, slept together since they were teens and knew each other for 10 years. Thats not easy to compete with, TJ and Ian knew each other for 19 years.

But just because you know someone for a long time, doesnt mean you should be with them. Unfortunately these BL authors thought the opposite.


I typed this pretty quickly, so if theres any grammatical errors and bad spelling. please forgive me.


TRUST ME ON THIS, ITS BEEN 3 YEARS AND I STILL GET ANGRY ABOUT THE ENDING FOR LOVE OR HATE. I WISH I NEVER WASTED MY TIME

I also hate, Jowoom his fans are literally racist towards taku cuz he was half Japanese and some of people said he should go back to where he come from i like wtf? , I love taku so much I hate that storyline so much.

it makes my heart so happy when I find Joowon haters. Im sorry but authors who choose stepbrothers as their main couple, are weird. its giving "I cant make it incest so I will convientlly make them family, but not blood related" Ewww Its like those pedophiles who only date 18, because its the age of consent, so they wont get in trouble.

Me too, it's just doesn't feel right to me to see someone hurts other for pleasure even if it's consensual.
Well it's just back to each person preference.

Exactly.

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/i_wont_accept_your_regrets_shio/

I'm not sure but I guess these are pretty close to the description

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/parfait_tic/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/almond_o_nanatsubu/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/scarlet/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_substitute_relationship/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/my_bias_appeared/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/sissy/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/binding_the_dragon/

if you're okay with BL novels then https://lazygirltranslations.com/flying-ash/

Coach not here too

Ah, yes. The love square. May I interest you in:
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/for_your_love/

This? https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/even_if_summer_ends/

Thank you