"wanna know a secret" and it's rape
I don't know when people started getting the idea that this was automatically rape. If Eunsan says "don't ever have sex with me while I'm unconscious again" and he does it again, sure, it's rape then. But in an otherwise consenting sexual relationship, you're allowed to do some things without asking until explicitly told otherwise. If a boundary is drawn and then ignored, that's when it becomes a problem.
okay so no, actually! the reason why things like somnophilia is such a grey area is because the person is unconscious, and consent is an ongoing thing, not just one and done; an unconscious person cant say whether or not they like what ur doing to them, but a conscious person CAN revoke consent in the middle of sex which is the difference bab. consent often has to be explicit if it hasnt been discussed prioe, which it hasn't: the mc didnt consent, wasnt even aware it happened to him. thats rape bab
I think most people would feel pretty fucking violated if they found out that their partner had sex with them whilst they were asleep. If two people have explicitly agreed that it’s okay to do stuff while the other one is asleep then that’s fine. But just having sex with your unconscious partner and hope they will be okay with it is absolutely disgusting.
I just cannot take you seriously when you keep talking to "bab". Who is this "bab" you're referring to? Are you trying to say "babe" in some sort of condescending way? If so, it's lost on me anyway since it's literal nonsense.
You acknowledge somnophilia is a grey area, but then you call it rape. You're literally proving that it's different in different situations. It's one thing if a stranger does it to you at a party, it's a different thing entirely if your monogamous boyfriend does it after already consenting to other sexual acts.
Calling what Ian did rape is just so heavy-handed and a mockery of actual violent sexual assault.
There's literally no point in arguing it anymore because there's no way I can be convinced this is an act of rape in 100% of circumstances.
majority of rape isnt violent. thats a misconception. its more akin to the sex we see in most fiction. the words “wait” and “stop” being ignored. you dont get to slap your partner across the face during sex and then ask for consent to do it again. you ask first. im actually giggling at what youre saying tho so thanks
it's not a mockery because it's rape, and yes im being condescending bc ur being silly and somnophilia is a grey area because even when there are two very much consenting individuals the person sleeping is not aware of what is being done to them and their partner could easily.take advantage of this and do something the person sleeping wouldn't like if they were conscious and able to reject it. but because theyre not conscious, they cant! and it requires a lot of trust and discussion because it cant very easily go awry! so yes it is a grey area qhen it comes to consent numbskull.











why r we suddenly anti threesome?? 123 go
Uh.. maybe because he basically raped him? And they're brothers who aren't sexually attracted to each other?
who tf said anyth about the brothers
because u mentioned a 3 some?? and 2 of those people are twins??? why are u acting confused as if that wasn't what u implied
threesome witjout incesg then 123 go x
except that's not possible because 2 out of the 3 are related lol