Loved this. Loved the ending too. Though it was not mc who caused all the issues but yk they’ve both changed and grown and it sorta feels rushed but it’s a good one to read.
Everyone hating on this is bull. Don’t like it? Stop reading. I’m looking forward to it especially when he sees he has two kids lol. Pretty sure this is still the side story so yk
I fuckin love bittersweet moment like this (╥ ω ╥)
I’m so confused on so many levels but at the same time now.
Jinwoo makes it seem like his dad Wasn’t gonna kill him (but the first chapter literally shows that he was gonna kill him so like??) Guwon saved him which confuses me as yk.
Jinwoo’s feelings are sudden gone because of seeing what Guwon is capable of and what he’s done but all I see is someone who’s not human and hasn’t been shown the wrongs and rights and so acts like how he is acting. I agree Guwon is a full on killer but maybe with the correct handling would change and be actually a nice person
Jinwoo is blaming Guwon for his dad’s death tho yes it’s correct he killed his father but his dad was going to kill Jinwoo anyway if Guwon hadn’t gotten there.
I don’t understand it fully and it seems Jinwoo has put random pieces of memory together and now thinks Guwon is a villain. (He’s not the villain in this I don’t think. I think he’s misunderstood and confused himself and doesn’t understand human rights)
I hope Guwon doesn’t die honestly. and I kinda hope Jinwoo learns the truth and they grow together and maybe can be happy with eachother yk?
If Guwon dies I think I’ll stop reading lol. I’m loving this as it’s good etc especially as Guwon is telling a hound off??? Doesn’t seem like he cares so much about them compared to the village?
Please give me your opinions too
I don’t think guwon will die, cuz that will make no sense at all from the author’s side. But Wym his dad was going to kill him. In the proper flashbacks that reflected the proper memory/ original memory before it got distorted, we can that his dad wasn’t going to kill him and he went to grab water for him.
I understand jinwoo’s fears because the person he likes is not who he seem like at all which makes sense.
I feel like jinwoo’s guilt will cloud his judgement before he even gets to kill guwon, cuz he will realize more things later on.
Also I do think that Guwon is a god and was sent there on earth as a punishment. I made this long ass theory on bato but it’s gone so I can’t even put it here cuz it’s way too long. But I’m pretty sure guwon is something like a god sent there as a punishment. There were so many clues in season 1 and we will see later on if I’m correct or not.
Okay so like, the memory we see in the beginning is just Jinwoo not having his memories in order. You might've forgotten that he had a head wound in the beginning, so his mind is jumbled. Realistically what happened was, some raiders attacked them, the father chased them off, then went to go get his son water(imo, I think it was probably the hounds that attacked them first and that's how Guwon finds the father and follows him back.) When the father returns, that when Guwon kills him. Jinwoo, bleeding out from his head and almost dying, doesn't realize wtf actually occurred(aka he's an unreliable narrator) so what we see in the beginning isn't actually what happened. I hope I made sense lol.
Yes but the flash back we are both talking abt was not the one in the beginning. This was the one that was shown after the doctor was killed, when they were going back home on the truck and he had a flashback while resting on guwon’s arm. I’m not talking about the flashback in the beginning because that one was pretty jumbled and everywhere so yea,
Yes they were talking about the flashback in the beginning, op said it in the second paragraph. That's why they were confused lol.
Oh I see. Ty for the clarification
That’s what’s confused me. The first chapter we have it shows a black figure saying “I’ll make this painless” and Guwon killing them before they hurt Jinwoo. That’s what I mean by I swear his dad was going to hurt him?
I'm gonna copy and paste what I said in a different comment:
I think you might be a bit confused by the story. Chapter 0 is the delirious take on what happened. The recent chapter is what really happened. The reason why mc couldn't remember correctly in the beginning, is because he got an injury on his head. Him coming back to the house, after recovery, brought the actual memory back of what really happened. They got caught by raiders, mc gets injured, and the dad chased them off(the hounds were probably the raiders and Guwon follows the dad back to the teacher) and his dad brought him back water. The dad was not gonna kill him at all. This why in some chapters, MC's unconscious body tries to kill Guwon. He subconsciously KNOWS what actually happened, but doesn't ever fully remember until he sees the body of his father.
Ohhhh, okay yeah I get it now. I kinda get what’s going on a bit better thanks
Omg ily. U explained it so much better than I could. My goodness
Idk what people are thinking when saying it’s justified etx. Juyeon is messed up and so is jiwook.
Whether jiwook did do the same to juyeon or not he doesn’t deserve the same thing. They both need help and it’s messed up.
Glad jiwook doesn’t forgive him tho. Cuz juyeon saying sorry and then doing the exact same thing again just proves that he doesn’t mean what he says.
Jiwook says himself that just cuz he didn’t complain that he came to see him doesn’t mean he forgets all that’s happened which is often the case in mangas like this. Would like to know the reason behind it all tbh
Please don’t kill the baby
great now they're definitely gonna kill the baby after reading ur comment ://
(joke btw)
And this is why I want a spoiler but I don’t lol
I loved this. It confused me on the revenge bit at first but I understand too some of it. It was twisted and stuff but it wasn’t rushed. They didn’t go straight into a relationship either which is so much better as there was twisted stuff in that.
Honestly loved this and will 100% read again eventually. It’s really sweet at the end. They both get a happy ending. It wasn’t forced either. Mc could have ran off and never came back but he decided to.
Wish it wasn’t finished as I wanna know more about what happens etc. amazing art to.
Is it just me that keeps reading In hope that mc and won finally get out of all this stuff and live together happily. Won is a bit messed up I’ll admit and it’s not right with all the rape at all I hate it.
Won doesn’t understand things at all you can tell. Mc is just getting hurt and used and it’s horrible. Let them both go for goodness sakes. Can they have a happy ending
So I think his trying to change ngl. As I think he’s realised that he’s been in the wrong this whole time. Kim Dan is confused which is understandable as he was raped and abused and now the other guy is suddenly giving a damn about him?
I do hope they have a happy ending though and both of them have been through crap and finally are realising it’s not ok and yah. Tho it doesn’t justify his actions I suppose it’s good he’s trying to change
Wait so he killed his mother???? Why? So is he safe or not? Is mc in danger or is he safe with this guy? The detective needs to stop as he’s putting mc in danger. By the sounds of it they’re gonna send mc away?!! I’m honestly so intrigued and can’t wait for the updates
Okay so like. Do we know is Guwon even killed his dad? There’s no proper proof?
I like this two for a lot of reasons and wish they could have a redemption arc but ik it won’t happen as it’s a one sided relationship so idkkkkk.
What’s everyone’s opinion? Like it’s messed up but it’s not at the same time
Its pretty definitive that Guwon killed his dad along with the loved ones of the other citizens. The evidence of his murder is not only the word of his own and the citizens who remember the experience, but also what we see when we go back to MC's prior home and how Guwon treats people that isnt MC.
My opinion is that although I find Guwon charming, in order for there to be justice brought upon the citizens under Guwon's messed up system, he needs to be controlled or put to death.
MC can control him, as Guwon would do whatever he says. But it's difficult for MC, since even if it makes sense to label it as a "one sided" relationship, they both love each other. It's just that one of them is also a murderer who murdered his father and loved ones.
Guwon's system makes sense, it has kept them alive and I have very little faith in how they would've survived this far as a community such as medicine being strictly handled and only necessary people being added to prevent overpopulation. My only issue with the system Guwon implements is a lack of freedom of speech and such a strict system against understandable difficulties (such as stealing medicine for a sick member). And how easily the strong are allowed or even encouraged to overpower the weak, even outside punishment. (Such as the hounds).
IN MY MOST HONEST OPINION, I don't know how they're gonna survive without Guwon or the loyalty of the hounds. The world outside is an apocalypse and everything is scarce. Medicine and actual hygiene and necessities is a privilege, and if Guwon dies/loses control, how are they going to continue to get resources and help everyone? There is a reason they withhold medicine, and a reason why they dont accept everyone to be taken in.
With this, their relationship cannot work at all because of the power dynamic. Although Guwon sees MC as equal to him, MC will always be burdened by the fact that Guwon has killed his and many of his friends' loved ones. There is a guilt that will not go away, no matter how much he loves or finds Guwon cute, Guwon has murdered people. And although he has a reason, it doesnt erase the effects it's had on the people around him.
There are two ways a redemption arc is possible in my opinion:
#1 Guwon is no longer in charge, he only protects them from outside harm, but will not have control over the justice system or the supply of necessities. That will be led by the people. This is so the town still has protection and doesnt have to fend for themselves. However, the people will still feel weary and scared around Guwon, so it's best that he be kept inside or only goes out at night with MC with him. MC can also continue to be a teacher and teach him emotional intelligence and guide him to redemption.
[Issues with this is that the citizens may still feel a lack of justice due to his murders and authoritative system]
#2 Guwon dies and the Hounds leave ig and the town fends for themselves somehow by sending out their own people to get resources
[Issues with this is that I have no faith in them and theyre all gonna die.. but who knows ig ]
Anyway I yapped too much, your question/comment just gave me an excuse to talk. Ok bye
Just to add onto this abt their relationship:
Guwon's idea of love to MC is equality.
MC's love for Guwon was due to his care for others.
Now that MC isnt ignorant of Guwon's actions, he has difficulty in loving him without guilt. Because Guwon still cares and is considerate and passionate, he just also doesnt have the same morality you'd consider good or normal.
Guwon loves MC because MC is the only one who has the strength to somewhat stand up to him and go against his words, even while being physically weaker than him. (He saw the others as unequal like dogs because they were all submissive/scared to go against his word). As well as the fact that MC sympathised with the stress Guwon is under to handle their town from danger (either from outsider or from each other/themselves). It feels that MC doesnt see Guwon as a leader, but as a person.
MC's strength and want for justice and freedom and personhood is what led Guwon to loving him.
Guwon's strength and want for justice and using that to protect who he can is what led MC to loving him.
They are very similar, just like what Guwon said in one of the recent chapters (around the 30s)