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I think Hoseob is a fully grown adult, especially since he's older than Jeongwon too (and with being the boss in his own Judo so he has some self confidence in himself at least as a leader and as an individual). He is innocent in bdsm, but I think he can be really straightforward with his feelings when it is necessary. It is portrayed through their first huge fight how mature and calm he was with addressing his feelings and, in fact, was capable of conveying it to Jeongwon comfortably. (He did take his time to convey it tho but I think it is better to take his time comprehending his feelings with reasoning rather than just diving right into a hard conversation when he doesn't even know why he's feeling the way he is. It helps both people to navigate what happened and what to do better in the future like that) (I am specifically remembering when Hoseob was pacing around for a week, I think, just trying to figure what to say, how to address it to Jeongwon without causing misunderstandings. Not during a play necessarily)
Thus, I think Hoseob would be more aware of what his limits are and my impression would be that he would voice it out when something IS overwhelming, even during a play. He is an emphatic person so he tends to delve deep into Jeongwon's words and feelings, and I thought his excitement with Jeongwon's jealousy hinted that Hoseob was enjoying it even as he was thinking hard on Jeongwon's words (and it was their daily play too, so I thought Hoseob wasn't necessarily anxious, but just caring about Jeongwon's jealousy)
And tbh Jeongwon would've immediately stopped if Hoseob had expressed any discomfort during a play. He even does check-ins by reminding Hoseob that he can let him know if it's too much or that he wants to stop. And he did came to check on Hoseob 10 minutes earlier than he said he would so... I thought Jeongwon was paying attention to Hoseob's body language and keeping check if he was pushing him or not
And Jeongwon, from what I remember at least, has always been the type to bottle up his feelings rather than admitting it. But after that big fight, he's been expressing his feelings, as bare minimum as it is, but I think it's understandable when it's still new for him to express it after closing his heart with the ex situation.
It could be unnecessary to express during a play, but it can be very exciting for a DS couple to sort through jealousy (and only petty, silly jealousy rather than an insecure, chronic jealousy type) during a play. It depends on the couple obviously, but I think that Hoseob likes it to a certain degree rather than just feeling forced into it
And Jeongwon is a dominant sadist. So, the feet on the head is really just a play rather than venting to Hoseob from I could tell. If he really was venting his frustrations, I don't think that he would just leave Hoseob alone. Like, if he was venting through a play, he can overwhelm Hoseob by force with toys or even force him into something that is outside of Hoseob's comfort rather than what Hoseob seems very interested in
It is still my opinion of the dynamic between the two, but I hope this could give a different perspective for others who are being a bit hard on Jeongwon
And thanks for coming to my Ted Talk lololol
my meaning of:
petty, silly jealousy = jealous over anyone who touches, smiles, or even just stares at their partner. would make claims of wanting them all to to themselves but doesn't actually lock them up or make them cut off contact with everyone
insecure, chronic jealousy = gets crazy insecure when their partner even breathe the same air as another random npc and attempts to lock the partner up and basically human abuse and imprisonment the partner and will most likely injure the partner with the intent to hurt them as much as they want rather than for the partner, let alone consensually like bdsm
I wanna apologize first and foremost for sounding dismissive about Hoseob's feelings of anxiousness from my previous comment here. Rereading it, I do realize that I sounded very naggy and aggressive about it
I do believe that it could be true, especially in the next chapter and so forth, that Hoseob just wants to please Jeongwon and not ruin the mood. And that's why he's not addressing the discomfort or concern that he has in the moment. And also why he's not using the safeword either and crawled to Jeongwon despite the tight binds were hurting him
I really wanna let the ones who read my comment know that I really didn't mean to make it seem like your opinion was wrong when I went with "I think some people are forgetting..." I was rude in the way I was writing that so I am very sorry for my stupidity. I should've started with, "Hoseob seems like a fully grown adult to me..." This could've been way better than being sassy about it, I really am sorry, I feel bad TT (I am gonna edit my previous comment after this too)
I first saw only comments that were the opposite of my opinion when I finished reading the latest chapter, so I thought writing how I interpreted would have anyone who reads my comment a different perspective of the situation, especially on Jeongwon
Am I for sure right? Hell nah lol
So, it's okay to disagree. I think it's cool to have a little push and pull with our opinions. But reading how I was being dismissive and just glossing over the impact Jeongwon can have on Hoseob, got me rereading my comment and realize that I was more mean than I thought
Again, I really am sorry for being rude and aggressive before.
My personal opinion still remains the same: I don't interpret Hoseob as anxious necessarily cause I think he's aware of his feelings as a fully grown adult and he's caring about his partner reasoning I've written before, and that Jeongwon isn't really undermining Hoseob's feelings. He still is horrible at initiating at talking about his feelings, but he's trying to make a change (as bare minimum as it is. I just relate to the struggle in initiating a difficult convo, especially about my feelings with my partner tbh, that's why I think he is at least trying for Hoseob in the little ways he can for now).
It is just my interpretation of the story and character. I'm sure I will change my mind in the next chapter. I shall now go and edit my previous comment. Thank you for reading this far tho and truly sorry for upsetting anyone with my previous comment
Excuse me chat whaaaattt... Your paragraph is longer and more serious than a lot of youtubers apology videos just WHAT have you wrote in there and what was the response that youre having such regrets
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girl...calm down....ignore others...in the end of the day we all just reading yaoi...i don't think anyone would get angry about ur opinion..in fact i think that whatever u said is super valid.
Yeah icl it did feel pretty uncomfortable
dw bestie we got what you mean!! and you're right, they're both consenting adults and mistakes are just bound to happen but it's fine
babes it's alright we're quite literally on mangago
lololol, nothing too offensive to say the least. It was mainly about Hoseob being a capable adult so he should know his own limits (like saying the safeword if he really doesn't like it and Jeongwon listening yada yada) and that he doesn't seem necessarily anxious to me (but the new chap is definitely changing my perspective now cause holy (￣∇￣")) But I didn't mentioned that it was my interpretation and it ended up sounding like I was telling other people that they're wrong so yeah, that's why I wanted to apologize
hopefully no one did! I was just dismissive and I don't feel good with just leaving it at that so yeah
But thank you tho!
yeah, I'm sorry about that (￣∇￣")
thank you!
with the recent chapter tho, I wanna retract what I said tbh cause holy everything escalated real fast! Σ( ￣□￣||)
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