Noah is an entire mess on his own but Julian isn’t the best either. He came in very hot like a white knight but he still never clarifies things for River when she asks questions. I know he’s probably not disclosing his true identity because he doesn’t wanna scare her off, but miscommunication issues plagued her and Noah’s relationship and won’t be a good start for her and Julian.
You're not wrong, but at least he doesn't treat her badly, like noah did. I feel he is the better of two evils. Tho of course the best option would be for River to be a single mom with julian present just as a best friend/god father and noah, not present at all
Someone of u ppl r fucked in the head that u r used to toxic piece of shit men. She didn’t remember him and he loved her for all those years. Finally she comes knocking on her door looking as if she is going through so much. He does everything he can for the woman he loves but also respecting her boundaries. He doesn’t have to tell her all about his family.
He straight up told her about his feelings then later told her all about their past. She doesn’t like to be owe anyone anything cause her fucking husband was a piece of shit.
U r comparing Noah the man who didn’t give a single fuck a about a person he has been sleeping with and who carried his kid, got a miscarriage then got pregnant with twins, only care when he didn’t have any more embryos so he treated her with care. She finally gives birth loses a lot of blood only for the kids to call her “River” for 6 fucking years. This isn’t like a surrogate that gives birth and leave. She was his wife on paper and he had sexual relations with. When winter was going through all that he didn’t care enough to involve River. He even said “ in 6 years I have not once forgotten about u my love the woman I marriage to stand in for u and blah blah.” After she left all of sudden he “love her” when he all read his thoughts lmao
Someone of u ppl r fucked in the head that u r used to toxic piece of shit men. She didn’t remember him and he loved her for all those years. Finally she comes knocking on her door looking as if she is going ... Lola
Not defending Noah, but he made it clear what type of relationship they would have and its limits because of his boundaries. She still pursued him despite all of that, also he gave her an out so it wasn’t like she was being forced to be in the relationship. Just like she’s allowed to regret being in a relationship with him, his dumbass can also regret treating her terribly.
Julian is right to do everything he can for somebody he loves, but it’s not true that he was respecting her boundaries. He literally lies to her because he knows she would be uncomfortable if she had known the truth. He also doesn’t have to tell her all about his family, but that also means River is allowed to have that type of response to that due her trauma and experiences.
Maybe if learn to think critically you can entertain nuanced thought without assuming people are fucked in the head. :3
Not defending Noah, but he made it clear what type of relationship they would have and its limits because of his boundaries. She still pursued him despite all of that, also he gave her an out so it wasn’t lik... rey
Lmao how typical. U r excusing Noah’s actions but point your finger at someone who went above and beyond for the person they loved. When River was sharing everything and crying he didn’t take advantage of her. When she asked him to leave he did. He didn’t tell her about their connection cause of her memory issue but he finally told her everything including about his mom disliking her.
What do u mean “lies” the man communicated with River while still allowing her to vent her trauma. He didn’t dump everything at once on a vulnerable pregnant woman. He allowed her to realize she needs to accept without expecting to give back. At that point he had only been around her for 6 months and he still did more communicating than her Husband of 6 years.
At the end of the day it’s your opinion and if toxic is your cup of tea then okay. Real life is different from fantasy
Noah is an entire mess on his own but Julian isn’t the best either. He came in very hot like a white knight but he still never clarifies things for River when she asks questions. I know he’s probably not disclosing his true identity because he doesn’t wanna scare her off, but miscommunication issues plagued her and Noah’s relationship and won’t be a good start for her and Julian.
You're not wrong, but at least he doesn't treat her badly, like noah did. I feel he is the better of two evils. Tho of course the best option would be for River to be a single mom with julian present just as a best friend/god father and noah, not present at all
Someone of u ppl r fucked in the head that u r used to toxic piece of shit men. She didn’t remember him and he loved her for all those years. Finally she comes knocking on her door looking as if she is going through so much. He does everything he can for the woman he loves but also respecting her boundaries. He doesn’t have to tell her all about his family.
He straight up told her about his feelings then later told her all about their past. She doesn’t like to be owe anyone anything cause her fucking husband was a piece of shit.
U r comparing Noah the man who didn’t give a single fuck a about a person he has been sleeping with and who carried his kid, got a miscarriage then got pregnant with twins, only care when he didn’t have any more embryos so he treated her with care. She finally gives birth loses a lot of blood only for the kids to call her “River” for 6 fucking years. This isn’t like a surrogate that gives birth and leave. She was his wife on paper and he had sexual relations with. When winter was going through all that he didn’t care enough to involve River. He even said “ in 6 years I have not once forgotten about u my love the woman I marriage to stand in for u and blah blah.” After she left all of sudden he “love her” when he all read his thoughts lmao
Someone of u deserve this types of men!
Not defending Noah, but he made it clear what type of relationship they would have and its limits because of his boundaries. She still pursued him despite all of that, also he gave her an out so it wasn’t like she was being forced to be in the relationship. Just like she’s allowed to regret being in a relationship with him, his dumbass can also regret treating her terribly.
Julian is right to do everything he can for somebody he loves, but it’s not true that he was respecting her boundaries. He literally lies to her because he knows she would be uncomfortable if she had known the truth. He also doesn’t have to tell her all about his family, but that also means River is allowed to have that type of response to that due her trauma and experiences.
Maybe if learn to think critically you can entertain nuanced thought without assuming people are fucked in the head. :3
Lmao how typical. U r excusing Noah’s actions but point your finger at someone who went above and beyond for the person they loved. When River was sharing everything and crying he didn’t take advantage of her. When she asked him to leave he did. He didn’t tell her about their connection cause of her memory issue but he finally told her everything including about his mom disliking her.
What do u mean “lies” the man communicated with River while still allowing her to vent her trauma. He didn’t dump everything at once on a vulnerable pregnant woman. He allowed her to realize she needs to accept without expecting to give back. At that point he had only been around her for 6 months and he still did more communicating than her Husband of 6 years.
At the end of the day it’s your opinion and if toxic is your cup of tea then okay. Real life is different from fantasy