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Yeah, I noticed that too ╥﹏╥

Upeoka’s translations are better in my opinion! I hope they keep translating (they seem to have a small team now to help with editing)! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Nope

Thx!!(⌒▽⌒)

You're welcome~~^^

What a lie. There's rape.

yes there is broski what r u talking abt?? oh i guess sleeping with someone whos drunk asf and cant consent isnt rape now?

Ouuu shiii thanks guys

I never drank personally, but you can drink and still have a functional brain to choose your actions and remember as far as my friend told me. Not once was he blackout drunk in any way, and in real life you'll have to go by how the other person acts to then have a conclusion.

Plus, he was in the situation once and didn't regret it in any way even when he remembered. So him putting himself in the exact same situation tells you that he chose this for himself. If we go by un consensual logic, then him kissing the other in his sleep goes by the same principle. But it's fiction at the end of the day.

go pull up chapter 9 and 10 out and then tell me he wasnt out cold. Being out cold means being intoxicated, which mean a person has no way of actually consenting to anything (you can easily google this, and google is a far more viable source of infortmaton than your friend's personal opinion). Consent has to be clear, which obviously wasnt the case.

Ima just start by saying youre factually wrong. Once again he was drunk in the first few chapters, so he had no way to actually consent to what the blonde one was doing. Secondly, let's suppose he did consent the first time (which he didn't, js to be clear). You simply cannot assume that because he gave consent in the past, it applies to current or future interactions. Once again consent has to be clear. You simply cant compare kissing someone in their sleep (sa) to actually violating and raping someone that is out of their senses, furthermore one thing does not invalidate the other. Fiction is a form of entertainment that can and has historically influenced and normalized certain acts in real life, so just because its fiction does not mean its okay, especially if what youre tryign to do is excuse and supress clear rape.

HighK forgot abt that scene holy short term memory loss, I guess I just formed my comment based on how BADLY I remember the scenes my bad. I agree that no consent was explicitly given here that was my fault for not being thorough, I just assumed that because he went and got into the same situation again and was never really put off by it I considered it dubious consent at most rather than rape. I apologize. But I disagree with the other part abt googling. I know you can be intoxicated but it depends on how much you know your body and your limits. I'm against drinking so my friend who has been in those situations has told me that it's fine as long as u control your intake.

But it still goes both ways, because one kissing the other 2 times, once in the club without ever knowing eachother and once when he was asleep, also makes in nonconsensual. So it's basically two sides of the same coin.

You need to read more than just rape slop.
https://utulsa.edu/student-life/sexual-violence-prevention-education/alcohol-consent/
https://adf.org.au/insights/alcohol-and-consent/

My comment about it being fiction wasn't meant to excuse rape and nonconsensual behaviour. It was more about the fact that the writing can leave out details that would be more obvious to spot if the situation happened in real life and that authors usually have a different perception of things that we wouldn't even know because they write the characters. I agree that one act can be more extreme that the other. I think the trope follows more on a rocky BDSM where both are kind of new to this and don't really know how the dynamic works, which kinda backs up my opinion about this being more dubious than rape.

I guess my perception about the situation was just about how I remembered it more than how it actually was rather than me explicitly choosing to read rape since I'm a heavy fluff reader lmao

Dude what are you saying?? Rape is a severe form of sa, rape is genuine sexual violence, while sa is considered and intrusion. Theyre both bad but in different scale.

I meant two sides of the same coin as in the same coin being 'nonconsesual', I might have formed the sentence in a misleading way.

then don't read it

js don't read and js don't spread ur shi here

Do you even understand the story? Like I get that people say that he raped Nanjo, but Nanjo gave his consent in the agreement, even if it was mostly because of Sunhwa, or when he said stop a couple of times during their session, (which I agree that mok-yeon should've listened to. He should understandthay it isnt the same as when he does it with Sunhwa), but if Nanjo REALLY didn't want it, and if HE felt as if he was being graped, I think he would've said something because he isn't the type to just take it, he is a direct person and would've done something if he felt that way. He never once voiced if he felt assaulted by Mok-yeon which meant he didnt. Whenever their session finished, usually people who actually get graped, are obviously traumatized or impacted, but Nanjo was fine and didnt complain about anything after. So learn to fucking understand the story and the characters instead of just spitting shit out please or hating it. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, DROP IT. STOP READING IT ONLY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AND RUIN OTHER PEOPLE'S IMMERSION IF THEY LIKE THE STORY. By the way, the backstory for Mok-yeon isnt to justify how he acts in bed, that is literally just for readers to understand his character and personality better.

That’s the plan !!

When did I say I’m reading it ….? I dropped it ages ago , I specifically said I saw it on my timeline , like on twitter , as in I saw it scrolling ….
You can say raped btw we’re on TikTok lmfao , many authors won’t accept their work has rape in for various reasons , nor write a trauma response for rape .They enjoy writing rape.You say usually people have a trauma response but not everyone does , just because they’re isn’t an instant response doesn’t mean there was no rape . Me when someone gets raped but they don’t complain to their rapist so it’s not rape .
The backstory is to sympathise it’s been done in countless manwha it’s a tired used up trope ,” understanding their character “, I can understand how abuse shapes people while also not agreeing with the manwha as a whole because at the end of the day it’s a get out of jail free card for the author and softens their actions .

Wouldn’t dare

then why do you keep commenting. everyone who is reading it knows what the ml has done, so instead of unnecessarily commenting, maybe you should learn to differentiate fiction from reality

Hmmm I can, I just can’t sympathise with a bad person , that’s how the story is written to be .Youre implying that I think someone being raped in real life and in a manwha to carry the same weight just because I can’t sympathise with a character???
You’re saying I keep commenting however this is my first time commenting loool.

your aggression towards this character is valid, but it also shows how you can't differentiate reality from fiction. we all know what he has done, but your comment was unnecessary and shows your immaturity. And no, i am not implying that it carries the same weight in real life, i am saying that your comment shows that YOU cannot differentiate reality from fiction. read my words correctly if you want to assume something. There are people here who actually want to read this, and your unnecessary commenting is really annoying

You gathered alot about me from a short jokey comment, live a little will ya

I did not mean to make assumptions, so i am sorry for that, but your hatred towards the character is very unrelenting towards someone who is not real. but i have to say i agree with what you wrote here:
You can say raped btw we’re on TikTok lmfao , many authors won’t accept their work has rape in for various reasons , nor write a trauma response for rape .They enjoy writing rape.You say usually people have a trauma response but not everyone does , just because they’re isn’t an instant response doesn’t mean there was no rape . Me when someone gets raped but they don’t complain to their rapist so it’s not rape .
The backstory is to sympathise it’s been done in countless manwha it’s a tired used up trope ,” understanding their character “, I can understand how abuse shapes people while also not agreeing with the manwha as a whole because at the end of the day it’s a get out of jail free card for the author and softens their actions .

Wow going through all this cause I got so many notifications with u to responding to each other was really funny. But I believe that u are in the right

same, but i'm ngl, it was lwk funny

same, but i'm ngl, it was lwk funny

I guess the hatred you see stems from annoyance , all over my tl when I don’t really like it at all ╮(￣▽￣)╭

i understand, the same hatred you have for this, i have for mc's who cheat in manhwa's

So it’s preference
This isn’t something I’d personally read , I must’ve just been in a bad mood the other day seeing it all the time . If you like it you like it I hope u enjoy

thanks (=・ω・=)

thanks (=・ω・=)

True. It’s gonna happen in a few chapters or so.

Where can I read the novel ?