TJ solo cult, Jo mommy association and Ian lovers just get over it. Tjian is endgame. Great. It's not like these two bitches actually got anytime to heal or get over their trauma. If you actually love TJ or if you love Ian than you'd realize that both of these bitches were entertaining and intriguing because of their relationship and feeling for each other. So get tf over it.
"TJ deserve to something more than a yw simp" they reason you come to love him because you want this type of lover in the first place.
"You're mischaracterizing Ian" when are we gonna realize that no matter how much you want people to understand him. It will never happen because they just hate him and you're just wasting your breathe. Learn to accept it.
I can never understand how anyone can claim to be a TJ stan and hate on Ian, the one person he lives and breathe for. Same for solo Ian stan who hate on TJ and wants him to end up either alone or with Jo. Ian’s one wish in life is to live a normal life with TJ. How can you claim to like his character and want what’s best for him yet disregard his desire to be with the one he truly loves for the past 20 years. Y’all are fake stans, especially Jo Stan that want him to end up with Ian. You don’t like Jo at all. Ian never prioritized Jo. He never reciprocated Jo’s love. He drops Jo to run back to TJ every chance he gets. If Ian was so in love with Jo, why was Jo so insecure in their relationship. Why did Jo know things were going to end between them. Why did Jo ask if Ian was going back to TJ. Even Jo knew Ian didn’t love him like that, but you want him to end up a man who is deeply in love with someone else. Yall are weird AF.
Well I actually love TJ and Ian. Their relationship is intriguing and the core of the story so I don't get why a TJ stan can ever hate Ian that much or people who claims to love Ian want him with Jo either or didn't see why he didn't chose Jo. So "get over it" as in just get over it because the backbone of this story is their relationship and they're endgame.
Grayson didn't care. He didn't care in the novel,he didn't care in the manhwa. He loves Dane and IT'S FICTIONAL. It isn't a love triangle, it has a novel and it was written by Zig who made a lot of shit that doesn't make sense. You'll live if people still love Dane as they should.
genuinely curious to how you can say grayson didn’t care when it’s very evident in the novel that he did care and didn’t like the situation
Because he didn't? Dane acknowledge it and Grayson goes on with his days, he even was confusedly upset and offended that Dane goes on to drink some dangerous contraception pill. Nothing in zig novels follow irl logic so I really don't get the fuss. It has a novel and some readers already read , knows and love the story. Rape obviously put in for no god dam reason like always by these Korean authors so ATP making a fuss and labeling people over this is just a nuisance.
guys be quiet she's talking to herself. that's a baby step :))
What cringe ass shit point you tryna make bud
just because grayson goes on with his days doesn’t mean he didnt care? In the novel he tells dane multiple times during the situation to stop and that it’s rape and the day after it happens when he confronts dane and dane tells him it wouldn’t of happened if grayson hadn’t imprisoned him and grayson later enjoyed it graysons reaction was cold and he told dane what a trashy thing to say. He very obviously did care about the situation and trying to say he didn’t is weird
He was trying to get something out Dane saying that too just like how he would call Dane promiscuous and slut shaming him while forgetting how many people he slept with. So yeah he didn't really care all that much.
Your words make no sense . He clearly did care if he got upset over it
Then maybe he should've report Dane to the police and let Nathaniel put a death sentence on him. He didnt seriously really care. He cared more for Dane reactions
you’re a complete and utter dumbass
Sorry that idgf like how the characters nor the story give a fuck about it? Gawd we have our lord and savior Jesus over here.
having the mindset that someone doesn’t care that they were raped because they didn’t go to the police is really sad and invalidating
Over pictures on a screen? There's a difference in not giving a fuck about a narrative device because you can see how it wasn't gonna be treated right and was put in there for nothing vs an IRL victim. I rather care about the irl victim feeling invalidated then an ass writing choice from the author. Rape is rape everybody's knows that but what're the readers gonna do? This is an adaptation, it not a love triangle for them to root for anyone else and obviously they're gonna end up together. Not everybody gonna be a stickler to irl standard reading a piece of literature that clearly has no intention to have anything meaningful about the topic.
I can never hate Mitsu. I adore him. I will never hate him especially when anyone with enough brain can see how this plays out how the story narrative placed him to receive hate and using him as a plot device to push the Hachi and Tate closer.
They'll either forced a throuple where Hachi is like pitying MItsu and Tate is like " I do care about Mitsu" and it's just unsatisfying. I would rather see him cry and heartbroken because of Tate than him being in a throuple with them. Hopping he'll find someone else that love him and only him.
It's clear as days that the author fav and the fan fav is Hachi x Tate and since everyone and their ancestors hate Mitsu. It's only right he'll be with me instead. Don't really want a stupid throuple when it's clear that two people mutually like each other and one being left out ://) my baby Mitsu pls choose someone else or just come to me instead of letting everybody dog pile on you. Idk ATP I hope the author just take him out of the manga. Stop playing in his face.
How I think Grayson VS Chase will respond
Koi: what would you do if a bully say your mom is a fat bitch?
Chase: at least she is mine.
Koi: What would you do if a bully say your mom is a fat bitch?
Grayson: I mean....
is this the teaching my kids what to say to a bully before the first day of school
Actually in "Deflower me if you can", at the beginning Bliss is bullied by other kids. There you see the reaction of his siblings, Grayson even gives him some advice on how to deal with them.lol It goes more in a violent direction.^^
Why did this just made me love Nanjo more? I can't stop laughing at how he don't care.
Second male lead syndrome is high-key ruining story. I'm starting to think that the Jo stan stay insulting Ian and saying TJ and Ian will be miserable because they know that realistically Jo will probably never truly recover or forget about Ian. He can go build a life and be with someone else but he'll probably randomly think about Ian from years to years. He could be sitting in old age and remember the guy he saw on the balcony.......I can't say that Ian will remember Jo in the same "hurt" context tho. Jo is probably just a part of some wonderful memory........ actually y'all keep hating cus I know if I were a Jo stan I'd never get over it as well.
Imagine his grandkids randomly saying "I'm so hungry, I could eat Ian." LMAOOOOO.
STOP HEHAHAHAHAHSHSHAH THATS ACTUALLY EVIL
Till this day we still have dumbasses being ignorant as hell over the chapter of Juhyeok supposedly taking su-ah out on a date. Calling Juhyeok ignorant and hating on him because he didn't apologize when he did but y'all were on his ass about that apology but when Juhyeok got rape with su-ah telling him that he wanted to get him pregnant because he has been ready to be a dad for while now and that bum give a half ass apology with out understanding what he did wrong, everybody cheered him on. This seme centric sucking dick mentally some of you have is astonishing.
They're cute together and I love them together but some of these readers be making me hate su-ah because of how dumb they fucking are. I don't see su-ah ass apologizing for the multiple sexual assult that he did to Juhyeok but gawd forbid Juhyeok do anything wrong tho.
I think i accidentally disliked mb
Np
OTL completely fails as a well written story because the author permanently sidelined the OG plot which was the love point system to force an unnecessary and artificial love triangle that should have ended in high school BECAUSE SOOAE ALREADY PICK EUNHYUK. Instead of organically rebuilding the main character's relationship through the original plot, the author brought back Dohwa just for unnecessary LT and now using Dohwa as a shallow plot device to trigger events while trapping Eunhyeok in a stunned state of misery. This constant misery,family drama and childhood abuse doesn’t feel authentic anymore. It feels like a manufactured excuse to his total lack of character progression. "He is depressed." "He didn't want to runied her peace because he saw happy." Okay valid but how long is he gonna stay in this state forever while we have to watch him willows in misery? And the author predictable decision of following the trope " he is silently devoted , watch over her from far away." How much longer will he actually progress as a character outside of this misery and communicate to Sooae? You don't ghost someone for 10 year with no explanation and expect her to have no resentment for what you have done. Is Sooae gonna be the one to pull this man out of his misery to force him to communicate with her because his is hurting when he has hurt her just as much?
No I am not a Dohwa stan or Eunhyuk stan or even Sooae stan but after reading the story the character individually just lack complexity. Their dynamic no longer feel authentic. I would have call Eunhyuk character as complex if the narrative weren't this lazy. He can express his insecurities, flaws while still having progression and moving forward even just a bit not even for Sooae but for himself during those 10 years because he could still try his best to move on while still continuing to love her instead of continuing to willows in his misery when Sooae herself has expressed her willingness to hear him out before.
Eunhyuk can be depressed. He can have unresolved trauma. He can struggle to communicate. None of those things automatically disqualify him from being a romantic lead. But what does he actually bring to their present day dynamic beyond his lingering feelings and his misery://
And also why the fuck was even Dohwa brought back in for the unnecessary LT. 10 years and bro didn't move on even a bit? He could have stayed in story through the og plot but instead the author focus on the cheap love triangle