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Frrrrr, what I would give to see their children

okay chill lets not forget pilsang is an SAer n he almost raped hajun the guy from the other story. hes where he belongs bruh- n also im tired of yall babying him n shiz. mind u he a grown ass man w dik n balls n all,he also did fuked up shit too

This is fiction so people can haby him if they want to. We do it all the time in BL just because they're handsome, pretty, or they have interesting character. You can hold fictional characters accountable but not everyone should do that

*baby himmmm

bro chill nobodys forgetting he was also a pos too he definitely had karma coming for him but its not all too late to change? im admiring him for his courage to grow up and learn from his mistakes and thats literally what the story is trying to convey? you're just boxing him -a fictional character btw- in his past rn fjdjsj

it gets 2 a point dude yall been treating him like hes an angel or baby or sum bs, it jus gives me major ick since hajun still flinches n is scared n wary of pilsang. hes still traumatized as u can see , [yall rlly dont giv a shit abt victims in fiCtIoNaL stories] u can like him idc i started liking him too but some of the comments sayin 'poor bbyboy my precious boy u deserve betterr uwu' mind u hes still a loan shark who hurts ppl and over all a bad person lmao. ik hes changing 4 the better but thts beside the point u can like him without allat, pilsang deserves the situation hes in period.

okay? fictional or not i hav common sense bru, yall BL fans lack tht it seems,dedass brainrotted from allat rape u consume fr- also this is my opinion too im entitled to it i can say tht yall babying him is kinda icky given his laundry list of past n fuked mistakes im not boxing him or anything U CAN LIKE THE GUY WITHOUT THT BS 'my pookie uwu hes so so, he deserves better' nah tf he doesnt. i literally hate the fukin state of BL manhwas rn its jus rape rape n SA n forgiving the bad guy so easily n ppl be eating tht shit up like its nothin. its like a slap to my face as a queer gay guy-

also i went through wht hajun went through i would nvr forgive the mf who did tht 2 me.

and i wouldnt be sayin shit if it wasnt for all of the comments babying him like damn yall ,jus bcz hes handsome n he got a great body-

I'm so sorry about this, as a victim myself too I would never forgive who did those things to me

I also want to remind you that this is only fiction. Just as you entittled to your opinion, others can have their own opinion and preference too. If you cannot handle the story or the way others baby a character, I advise you to avoid this story or the comment section. This is public platform and everyone can have their own opinion as long they dont harass others. Fiction will stay in fiction

And I hope you could heal from what happened to you. Although I know it wouldnt be easy. And I wish the one who did those things to you would get what they deserve

im sorry 4 whatever u went through too, i wasnt tryin 2 yuck yalls yum its jus pilsang reminded me of my abuser n SAer alot mby thts why im irritated asf n bothered alot by him n the ppl babyin him mb. i dont h8 the guy im startin 2 like him too. also ty 4 ur well wishes i wish u well too.

Why are you lying lol ? Hajoon doesn’t flinch around Pilsang, and he’s clearly neither terrified nor traumatized by him anymore. I don’t know if we even read the same story atp, because the recent interactions Hajoon was with Pilsang, he was more comfortable around him than ever. He teased him at the amusement park, gave him attitude when he wasn’t nice to Mongoo, and even said in his letter that he forgave him.

That obviously doesn’t erase Pilsang’s past actions or the harm he caused, but people can change. That’s literally one of the main points of the story: showing someone who grew up in a terrible environment, made awful mistakes because of it, and is now genuinely trying to become a better person. People are allowed to appreciate that kind of character development. And honestly, it’s far healthier to encourage someone who’s genuinely trying to grow than to reduce them to the worst things they’ve ever done forever.

And at the end of the day, this is still fiction. If people start projecting all their personal trauma onto fictional characters and stories, then fiction becomes impossible to enjoy. Of course, if certain themes are triggering or uncomfortable for someone, they have every right to stop reading, that’s completely valid. But attacking others for enjoying morally complicated characters with redemption arcs, and acting like that somehow makes them bad people or means they lack morals, common sense, or can’t separate fiction from reality, is just unnecessary. People are fully capable of understanding that liking a fictional character does not mean condoning every bad thing they’ve done. Sometimes people just appreciate good writing, complexity, and character growth.

So yeah, we’re still gonna baby him if we want to. Sorry not sorry

okay so where tf did i say it was wrong to like pilsang read my shiz again broski and i never said ur a bAd pErsoN if u like him ,second of all sooo by ur logic we can baby jjk from jinx if he had a proper redemption 'arc' cuz why tf not then? or any of the other rapists or SAer's in these BL manhwas cuz u said so and theyre hot, right? ty random straight woman on the internet lmao.

i wasnt attacking any1 i jus said it was icky thts all and it was my opinion mind you, also the whole flinch thingy and stuff i didnt say it happened at a recent chapter i jus said it fukin happened cuz i remember hajun or hajoon even hid behind tht black haired top when he saw pilsang sooo wheres the lie? even if hajoon accepted pilsangs apology, an accepted apology is only gonna make the assaulter feel better abt themselves. for all yk hajoon might still be traumatized idc if its fictional imma hav my thoughts n opinions on tht and ik pilsang is changing for the better and i like tht im not trapping him in his old mistakes dont twist my words.

ik it was my bad 2 bring my personal issues and lump it on a fictional char i jus felt triggered w all of tht bby shit in the comment section and ppl saying pilsang deserves better than tht asshole top, like pilsang all u want dont infantilize him hes literally a loan shark whos an adult AN ADULT W JAIL WORTHY CHARGES, also u clearly dont know how trauma works, it sometimes can never go away unless u seek psychological help, did hajun do tht? nah. anyways boo whoever is reading ths enjoy ur complex char's n enjoy ur lil stories, bby whoever u want. you do you. i jus had to vent and say my two piece cuz why tf not? its a public platform for a reason, im done now have a nice day.

See, this is exactly what I mean lol. You keep saying “I never said people are bad for liking him,” but then immediately jump to comparing anyone who appreciates Pilsang’s development to "people excusing every abuser in fiction because they’re hot.” That is "implying" something about the fans whether you admit it or not. And your whole Jinx comparison flopped anyway because you just randomly lumped me in with a fandom I don’t even like, you basically built an argument against an imaginary person and started fighting that instead, yikes !

Also, nobody said trauma magically disappears after forgiveness. You’re arguing against points nobody made. The point is simply that the STORY itself has very clearly shown Hajoon becoming more comfortable around Pilsang over time. That’s not a “theory,” it’s literally what’s happening in the narrative. He stopped reacting to him with fear, talks back to him, teases him, stands up to him, and yes — he outright forgave him in the letter. And when Pilsang cried after reading it, it wasn’t just “the assaulter feeling better about himself,” it was the story showing that Hajoon’s forgiveness genuinely affected him and pushed his growth further. That’s an actual CANON moment, not fans making things up. Meanwhile, "you" are the one rewriting "canon" to fit your "personal interpretation" while acting like everyone else is delusional for following what the story "literally shows".

And let’s be serious for a second, you can’t spend an entire rant comparing Pilsang's fans to people defending rapists in BLs, throwing out “random straight woman” comments like you know me personally, assigning morals to people over a fictional character ( for babying him, reamly ? Lol), and then HIDE behind “omg it just gave me the ick” and act like you weren’t attacking anyone.That’s not harmless discomfort, that’s not just sharing an opinion at that point, that’s you being passive aggressive while trying to pretend you weren’t attacking anyone. You stopped discussing the story and started projecting "stereotypes" onto random fans to make your flawed arguments sound stronger.
If you throw shade at people, don’t get confused when people clock the attitude right back.

Also, the “you clearly don’t know how trauma works” comment was ironic considering nobody here said trauma disappears forever. You kept arguing against imaginary takes AGAIN instead of what was actually said. Acknowledging that Hajoon has visibly become more comfortable around Pilsang is not “ignoring trauma,” it’s literally acknowledging the progression the author wrote into the story. On the other hand, you "projecting your own experiences" onto the character does not suddenly override canon, tho ~

And honestly, you contradicted yourself multiple times. First you say you’re not trapping Pilsang in his past mistakes, then every other sentence reduces him to “a criminal with jail worthy charges” anytime someone likes or babies him. First you say you’re not attacking fans, then compare them to people romanticizing SA in BL. Like… pick a lane..? Because your argument keeps switching every paragraph depending on what sounds better in the moment.

At the end of the day, nobody’s forcing you to baby him or like him. You’re entitled to feel uncomfortable with him and nobody’s stopping you from having that opinion. But acting like people are “infantilizing a criminal” just because they enjoy a morally complex redemption arc is where your argument falls apart. Fiction has always explored awful people changing for the better — that doesn’t mean readers are endorsing their actions in real life !
The thing is your personal triggers and interpretations don’t override what the story itself is showing. Readers can acknowledge that Pilsang did terrible things while also appreciating his growth at the same time, and even “babying” him in a lighthearted way, without contradiction. Those things are not mutually exclusive, they can coexist.

And you know what ? You might need to chill a little, it’s a fictional manhwa discussion, not a criminal investigation. People babying a morally complicated fictional character should not have you this emotionally drafted into battle...sheesh
I’ll just leave it to you and hope you get some good healing from your trauma instead of debating this any further. So, honestly, if the story triggers you THIS much, maybe it’s time to step away from it for a bit. Ciao ~

HOLY SHIT, look lady i was going by ur point w the jjk example it was jus a freakin example ijbol idc if u read tht manhwa or not cuz ppl are doin tht rn w jjk theyre starting 2 baby him too bcz he started cryin and shi, and wht does jjk and pilsang have in common?? theyre both sexual assulters!!1!! wow see how easy it is i hope u got tht or should i explain more? also u saying i 'built an argument against an imaginary person' now thts passive aggressive lmao dont be acting tht u dont know shit abt jinx [even if u dont read it] or the other toxic BL manhwas u read.

dude how many freakin times am i gnna say u can like pilsang without babying the mf- i even said i like him- whatever bro woo chile anyways bruh its like talking 2 a brick wall imma jus leave ya w tht im not wasting my breath i aint reading allat-

also lemme add sum rq i literally cant even enjoy a smut BL manhwa without it having rape or SA even tho im the fukin targted audience fml,u would nvr find this much toxicity n rape and SA in straight manhwas n some of yall excuse tht shit in BL manhwas and i find this fukin disgusting and homophobic af,whatever dude jus enjoy whatever u want ig if its two men then its okay.

thanks for the well wishes ig-

Yeah…too late, I think you already wasted your breath plenty with how hard you kept twisting my words and forcing fake arguments just to make your point work, lol.

Because it’s actually insane how many times I explicitly said “liking/babying a fictional character does NOT mean excusing their actions,” yet you keep circling back to “so y’all excuse rape and SA then???” as if repeating it enough will magically make it true. At this point you’re not responding to what I’m saying, you’re responding to an imaginary version of me you made up in your head :v

And the HYPOCRISY is wild too. You keep saying “people can like him without babying him” okay… and ? The same way you have the right to dislike a fictional character, like him and not baby him, other people have the right to like him AND baby him if they want to ! You don’t get to decide which ways of engaging with fiction are morally acceptable just because you personally don't like it. That double standard says more about your argument than anything else.

Also, no, I genuinely do not care about Jinx and know nothing about it, and I’m not engaging with comparisons to characters I don’t know. And even if another character shares surface-level traits with Pilsang, they are still two completely different characters written and evolving in completely different stories with different dynamics, development, context, and execution. You trying to force them into the same box just so your comparison sounds more dramatic is exactly why your arguments keep falling apart.

And now suddenly it’s “I ain’t reading allat,” “whatever bro,” “brick wall,” after writing essays and switching arguments every other paragraph lmao Sounds less like confidence and more like backpedaling because your points stopped holding up.

At the end of the day, nobody said SA or abuse is okay "beCaUse iT's BL". Nobody said people have to like Pilsang. The only thing I said "repeatedly" is that appreciating a fictional redemption arc is not the same thing as supporting those actions in real life. But somehow you keep arguing against things nobody actually said.
And you’re proving that again with your last rant as you still turned people enjoying a character’s development — and even just lightheartedly ‘babying’ him — into “y’all excuse rape and abuse". At some point you stopped talking about this story entirely and started unloading every grievance you have with toxic BL tropes onto random readers who never even said the things you’re accusing them of.
So yeah… maybe stop projecting your annoyance with toxic BL tropes onto people who just like a complicated fictional character. It’s really not that deep ~
Grow up and stop shadowboxing your own frustrations.
And yeah, Pilsang is such a BABY girl ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

oh lord another story 2 read,nah dude im not backpedaling im jus exhausted from repeating myself , u jus dont get where im coming from and its okay lmao im tired of explaining myself u jus dont get it i'll have my opinion n u hav urs. also ms maam do u even write paragraphs ths long for school or sum the detection is insane ngl imma applaud u on dat , yea yea pilsang is baby girl whatever floats ur boat my guy u tryin 2 rub it in or wht wth LMAO

Calling it a “story” now but you still wrote essays about it, lol.
Don’t worry, I understood your point ages ago — you just didn’t like being challenged on it. Also the " i'll have my opinion n u hav urs" part is cute and funny, since that only showed up when the argument stopped going your way, after you spent most of this rejecting how other people engaged with Pilsang's character development and redemption arc, acting like they were wrong for seeing the character differently and babying him now that he redeemed himself, even going as far as accusing them of SA apologism, yikes. That certainly wasn’t just "accepting different POVs" on your part, that was policing everyone else’s.

And yeah, Pilsang is baby girl coded, glad we agree ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Sooo, anyway, you can tap out whenever, I’ve been consistent this whole time.