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he isn’t tooo unsettling but he is literally a monster https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_story_of_monster_and_asuka/

dr victors three lovers? maybe?

Desirescans.com is one of them I'm pretty sure

Kaizen scans, MythToon, Desirescans. Those are the big THREE. You will see them uploading on literally every manhwa

desires scans, paradises scans, mythtoon, spring/sprintoon, moon/moonstone, Hiraya Reads, Kaizen. there's probably more I'm forgetting

Nexcomic

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The big three

Thanks!
How do you find out about them?

Just by clicking the chapters they upload, if there's no staff listed, the banner is AI, the site they redirect you to has paywalled chapters and the translations make no sense or are straight up shit then I never click their uploads ever again.

Also them asking for bitcoin in every chapter

I hate ai too but this site I don't think this is places we should complain tbh lol

There's many manhwa manhua manga officially in main website
You can read manga there instead of those ai one

And don't wast money on other unofficial paid website

yeah that too ╥﹏╥

we're still allowed to complain about it if we want to, I have issues with them when I can't read a chapter uploaded by them in peace cuz I have to skip the same upload 4 times by 4 different AI uploaders and chapters aren't even in order anymore cuz non of them can decide to just let one person upload, mgo isn't like kaga or comix where we can filter buy uploaders so it's damn annoying. mgo was never like this before and there's always been AI & MTL uploaders. but I do agree to pay for official chapters and not the AI ones if you're gonna spend money don't buy unofficial translations

Even if we put their reliance on AI aside, there’s a certain level of decorum and respect towards other uploaders and the unspoken rules that should be followed for the sake of community and general website experience.
Yes, this is a less-than-lawful reading site, but these AI scanlators are downright disrespectful to everyone involved.
Letting this slide will only make things worse, so I sincerely hope something is done.

Well there was many features but gone after 2021
There was also flag option
Maybe because of spam those are gone
And comix is from bato if I guess right?

For those if only that report button exist from 2021 lol they disabled many feature like those

There's a pinned message about it in the community tab
https://comix.to/community/post/839

Thanks! I just got bato flashbacks

none as i remember. our king is head over heels lol

They're fucking not who is saying that bs??? They both have rapist ml

I knew it!! I thought I was going insane

Low tide in twilight = ML is yellow flag at the beginning than started changing into Green flag
Rose and Champagne = ML is black flag, he is good in his own way I mean as much as he cruel with other he is not that with MC from very first but as I say is black flag and doing things he never done and higher touch to green flag as he give his full to win over MC he never done those things for anyone but MC wanting to leaving him makes him Black again slowly MC turn him into green again. Well this one tittle confusing if you read u understand what I'm try to say (⌒▽⌒)

low tide in twilight yellowish red flag
roses & champagne black flag

Alright, I'm reading roses and champagne rn.
Thanks for the detailed answer!

Tldr: both are rapists aka not green flag

A rapist can't turn into a green flag nigga I'm so tired of you dumbasses trying to act like these rapist can ever be redeemed

Read smth better bro theyre both ass

Honestly, I'm having a really hard time getting through it.. I'm fine with some morally ambiguous or darker stories, if the writing is good but this is ridiculous

theyre definitely not
but at least in low tide in twilight the top redeemed himself in the end and really TRIED to be better
FOR ROSES AND CHAMPAGNE CAESAR IS FUCKING CUCKOO but smh leewon puts up with him so its on him

Go read no more eurydice bruh

"redeemed" and he's a rapist

It's on my list!

its fictional calm ur ass down this shit won't fly irl hating on a fictional character based on real life morals is stupid

flag darker than ink, theyre both shit. not even the writing is good.

I’d say hating on a characters for being a fucking rapist is pretty fucking normal actually

I haven't read r&s nor do I plan to lol. I powered thru waterside night only bc I liked euihyun's relationship with his little brother.

Fym green flag son

you can hate him if you want but getting pressed over a FICTIONAL character and being outraged at ppl for liking the manhwa is stupid let ppl read whatever they want

You probably wouldn't say the same thing if they were hetero this is such a weird thing to say. Rape is rape, and it's minimizing victims by romanticizing and sexualizing rape/rapists.

nobody said raping isnt bad u can hate the character all u want but u dont need to police what other ppl read or act like enjoying a fictional story means they support what happens in it

They're not even trying to stop ppl from reading wtv they want. No one really has the power to choose for someone else, so idk why you're saying that?? They're just correcting people who're calling literal rapists "green flags" and saying they're "redeemable" when they aren't. You sound dumb asf yo

You do understand that you can't be limiting how different people process or interpret fictional characters, right? As long as they understand that everything happens in the fictional realm and should not in any way determine readers' real life values/rules/laws/behaviors etc. Fiction can act as a jumping off point to discuss real life matters, but not for the events of a fictional story to affect them.

You can process and view characters and their actions through a real life lens and morals and there's no inherent problem with that. You can also filter through the events at face value and focus on the symbolism behind them. You can suspend your real life beliefs to appreciate the overarching themes of a story or you can drop it if extreme harm is depicted (especially if it's a plot with a couple that the readers are supposed to be rooting for, since they end up together). You can have a valid opinion whether you like or dislike a story. A rapist, for example, is one extreme form of violence and harm. By real life criteria, they should hardly ever be redeemed in the eyes of their victim, let alone to end up together with them, because 99% of the time the harm of the act is permanently etched into the victim/survivor and to recover enough to be functional means requires distance and no contact with the perpatrator.
So, in these fictional stories - most of which are otherwise based on a moral system that resembles our real life one - we are asked to either view it as an intentionally terrible and unforgivable act that caused iredeemable pain and there's no happy ending for victim/perpatrator or we are asked to suspend our beliefs for the overall story, using rape as an analogy to intense conflict or other extreme negative emotions. And some readers just can't do that latter part, can't suspend their beliefs and that's ok. As long as they don't make personal attacks, bully or demonize the authors or other readers who CAN.
All this to say, you're both right in your respective opinions.

Mf nobody policing other ppl the dude u were replying to was js saying that rapists can't be redeemable and will never be a green flag we cannot be fr

i know you can’t literally stop anyone from reading it but going around replying to multiple ppl and shitting on what their opinion kinda gives “telling ppl what to read” energy

oh my fucking god go write a novel lil bro im not reading that shit

Oh yeah totaaaaally!!!! Bc telling other people that they shouldn't call RAPISTS green flags (and rightfully so) is apparently "telling ppl what to read" energy.

You've been writing replies nonstop, who do you think you're trying to mock? Also, learn to read.

Ofc you're not ofc u also enjoy reading LTIT and You Are My World... fork found in kitchen for someone who needs things to be summarized for them

Me saying rapist cant be redeemed is nothing like that you could be jerking off to fucking reverse thinking and I wouldn’t give a shit my issues is with people being delusional af about the shit they consume

U cant say rapist are irredeemable on mgg.me or they jinja kill u I’m crying

Hope u like it ^^ it’s a extremely slow burn but the writing is peakk

we all have different opinions and perspectives you don’t have to like it or agree with it let people read what they enjoy and move on LOLOLLL

girl why are you arguing with this user they’re new to bl fs… they put pearl boy and potn in their top 10 list… yeah read whatever you want… i don’t think anyone can judge such bad manga taste…..

No one said anything against that but whatever

I wasn't they got mad at me

i can like whatever i want??? youre so fucking weird stalker behavior honestly

let’s all read POTN

The one from low tide in twilight red flag and the other on from roses in champagne is a black flag I hate him

dude this entire thing is so long it took me like 10 seconds to scroll down

these stories don't have green flags bru, whoever said that has a fried brain from reading too many bl manhwa. they're both bad but taeju(?) from low tide is the lesser evil here.

well, every red flag is green when you are colour-blind

They finna finna kill you

No one is romanticising something like that for Rose and Champagne I would say it's very different psychological game play by author which not play by Manhwa author's commonly u just seeing he rape MC, which is totally wrong as normal person felt it disgusting but did try to understand from ML's perspective he doesn't know what is right and what wrong he also never seen his birth mother or maybe seen her just one time his father is cruel who just use him and make him what he is today an inhuman that's what his father want also MC father have very big hand for his situation so foe him who doesn't know normal thing for example = Before MC come to his life he just sex with 15 to 30 people for his perspective he have his sexual urges and he want to sex but the sex for him is rape for us because he doesn't understand the common like between sex and rape but he doesn't want hurt MC that's why he never force MC and surface his urges to rape him because he doesn't want hurt mc during sex as he done with many people the simple thing is he doesn't have feelings for them and have feelings for him that's why he do each and everything that MC need but when MC decided to leave ML without telling him his thought that want everything as politely as possible and MC fall for him gone to feel betrayal as his cousin also misinformed him about MC'S leaving and trigger MLs emotions saying no one wants him and even his parents don't care for him at that point his only feeling is to parison mc if he doesn't love ml and when rape him MC did angry on him and soon he also realised he use ml for his benefits when he knows he love mc and how dangerous he is, at that moment MC try to understand his condition and try too teach him normal things and when MC started giving love and teach him normal things he do try to understand if u remember the last chapter ML and MC and normal conversations which never done by ml in the whole manhwa that's author way to shows its just beginning of Mls normal life and he lives a normal life by helped of MC.

It is the whole deep feeling the author want portrayed but sadly people only do want understand upper layers problems not the complicated deeper critical theory behind the situation as a literature student I did have so many problems with critical texts but as literature student I have to dig more deep to understand the main critical theory behind a text .

There's no "understanding from a rapist's perspective". I don't see why anyone would need to do that. Also, I was referring to the PEOPLE, the READERS, romanticizing and sexualizing the scenarios that involve rape, usually for the sole purpose of an attractive male interest, and/or the concept of it being between two men and not a man and a woman. Yes, I'm pretty sure, no, I would HOPE that a NORMAL person would view it as disgusting?? How he views what is "right or wrong" does not excuse the fact that what he did was an act of rape, and therefore, labels him as a rapist. Nothing will change that. I could care less if the rapist had a sad backstory or grew up without knowing love. I don't need some sappy emotional backstory because I'm not going to sympathize with a rapist. Nothing and I mean NOTHING can excuse a rapist's actions. A rapist chooses to act on one's OWN choices. How are you going to point out how the ML "doesn't want to hurt the MC" yet in the manhwa, he clearly rapes him countless times ON TOP of SHOOTING him with a firearm?? That doesn't add up. Unless he grew up with his brain in his ass, he knows that shooting someone results in harm. Whether he knows what rape is or what isn't, I don't really care because what he did was still rape, and it happened more than once. The entire concept of the author trying to make the victim "change" or "fix" his rapist and later GETS TOGETHER with HIS RAPIST at the end of the story is already romanticizing rape, I'm afraid. No one would want to get back together with their rapist. The author thinking that, "oh, I can change him" is even an option for the victim is romanticizing it. There's obviously so many things wrong with that story, no matter if it has a "deeper meaning" (even though that "deeper meaning" is just the rapist's boohoo backstory).

The Rose and Champagne is very is manipulating story Author of this novel play really good game by layering different triggering storys as Author want people hate ml, as you can see ML cruelty comes from his father, his father upbringing made me like that he is today he never seen his mother or maybe just one and that he so small he bearly remember her, than MC father try kill me make it even wrose, as the beginning of the story ml genuinely fall for mc and do everything he never done he just want to win over mc and want mc loved that why he do everything help mc, but when mc try to run away from ml and mls cousin manipulate him by saying mc run away and no one want him don't even his parents care for that trigger him and he just that time want mc no matter how that's why he do those things, as the early chapters of the manhwa ml sexual desires come for his perspective he sex with 15 to 30 people at same time because no one handle him singlely for its just sex and claim his urges but he doesn't want hurt mc as he do to others for others he doesn't care but for he doesn't want to hurt mc, as the plot explores these I understand mls thinks those normal but for normal people's perspective it's not normal and from the what read there no one to teach him what normal and what not for a baby he doesn't understand that fire hot or dangerous he would touch it with curiosity and hurt by that ml learns those touching those and thinks it normal which is not, when ml rape mc after that mc angry but he does understand mls perspectives and slowly mc give him love and that love claim ml as he also craving for love as the story ending ml does angry in little things which never have before and talk normal things like normal people just like last chapter that shows the beginning of his life as normal and bu mc his side he will became a normal person just like others and do normal stuff, it's very normal to not understand those deeper layers but the main story and Author playing mind games with reader make it difficult to understand what the critical storytelling it is and I do understand people hate about ml rape mc but the story is much deeper than it's look (=・ω・=)

Well yes, you told me about his backstory already, but that doesn't really justify anything. Sure, it creates his character, but it doesn't justify his actions. If the author wanted the people to hate the ML, congrats to them because they accomplished it..... except they also didn't. This is because there are thousands of readers who ENJOYED the ML's presence and called him hot, excused his actions, etc. Etc. If the author truly wanted people to dislike the ML, she should've kept it that way or at least NOT make the ML a RAPIST in order to make readers hate him. If the author had chosen a different method of making a character seem evil and hated BUT with a redemption, they shouldn't have made the character a rapist. Obviously, the author makes them "fall for each other" in order for a "happy ending", but that's, again, romanticizing rape. The victim shouldn't try to interact, let alone FALL FOR one's rapist. If he truly "loves" the MC, he wouldn't have raped him nor SHOT him in the first place. It doesn't add up. At his grown ass age, he should KNOW that it will hurt the MC. He's not a toddler. My entire point that I am trying to make right now is that nothing the ML does or went through in the past will justify who he is, a rapist. It doesn't excuse it, he can't be redeemable. It's not like he raped the MC when he was an infant, no. A sad, sappy backstory does not make the story "deep". A character not coming to realize that raping someone is considered abhorent does not make a story "deep". A character trying to reason with their own rapist and later falls in love with them is not "deep". It's disgusting, it's not a good story, it will never be a good story, it's romanticizing rape. I really can't seem to grasp the "critical storytelling" you're attempting to point out because it's not really "critical storytelling".

I would like to add—the author of Roses and Champagne could've created a character with the same exact backstory, appearance, and behavior within the fandom WITHOUT adding rape, yet still have the reputation of a partially hated/evil character. THAT would've been an ACTUAL good story with ACTUAL critical storytelling.

It’s part of this anthology
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/unauthorized_prohibited/

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Np! (づ￣ ³￣)づ

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/be_a_good_boy_my_dear_dog/

Oh I replied wrongly this is a subverse x omegaverse mb

i’ve never seen anything like that, but maybe you’ll like this. it’s guideverse x nameverse.
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/old_wolf_and_young_fox/

You're good. In the most cases that's basically the same thing anyways
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sorry dude i wanna help you but that means i have to go rewatch the episodes from the middle. why don't you just keep watching you'll find out sooner or later since there's only 3 eps left in s1