Nahh atp me and fate would’ve had to duck it out cuz there’s nowayy ur taking my lover away twiceee (well almost but seme resisted) and by the same person at that
The power of fate is far too strong in this manga which doesn’t rlly serve a good purpose in my opinion instead it’s just used as a cheap ploy to invalidate uke’s pain to not make anyone out to be the bad guys. I wanted to be mad at the ex n I still am regardless of what the plot says. Like his bro he should’ve been mad and resisted at the sight of the new bitch instead of falling in love the way he did, weakass punk
If I were uke I wouldn’t have accepted seme. It’s too much to live with the fact that he’s someone else’s fated pair plus the possibility of him getting snatched away especially since they’re all now part of the same fk family
This whole situation is simply too hurtful to be in
We don’t even have omegaverse irl however fated pairs are now my number one enemy. It makes me think based on whose pain is the foundation of ur little romance build??
There is a second volume n now it’s uke’s turn to encounter his fated pair. That is just so unnecessary atp in the plot like just let him be byebye. It would’ve been good had they met prior to seme cuz I don’t like how uke will always be somewhat tied to those traitors but now I don’t want it at all given it’s already too late
I did enjoy reading this cuz I like hurt, angst and it’s pretty interesting hehe
This has ended like an eternity ago, why are they still updating it here n there so annoying
cuz theres side stories that just came rn
They need to let it goo the readers have already closed this chapter
I’ve one BIG issue with sports mangas. They never continue on past their HS career!! We all wanna see these chars make it past this chapter of their lives and achieve their big dreams by making it international. The pacing hurts these mangas the most. They spend so many chapters on either just a year or in some cases three of their development. It’s not nearly enough. I get frustrated with how dragged out the matches become, they could def shorten it by a lot and instead give us a longer career span. I soo badly wanted to see so many of my fav sports protagonists make it big in their careers but unfortunately it all seems to be only ever about their time in HS
Author has shattered the gaytards with the canon ending huhu love her for that, I was rooting for Hina all along.
"gaytards"??? ur disgusting
Found triggered gaytard
found the annoying hypocrite troll
What? Is Hina the end game? I thought the muscular girl who's a guy in her past life is the end game so she just appear to make his brother avoid the potential ships?
Oh forget about it I already saw some spoiler below.
Author deems murderers as evil but sexist rapists deserve to get repeatedly saved n given preferential treatment.
He’s a bastard making a clear statement, 1star for his shit webtoon
Not to mention the fanservice is just so gross. In every single panel of the female fighter, she’s doing a split and/or her coochie outline is forced down ur throat
I do feel very bitter as MC is held back a lot by both her environment and the so called friends surrounding her.
At just the age of thirteen she is already one of the strongest ppl in her world n has the potential to become thee strongest as she gets older.
A mere child is already such a disastrous genius
All that her ppl are concerned about is how to feminise her more, keep her locked down and away from her passion. It feels incredibly suffocating and I’m pretty sure she must feel the same way. The misogyny n shallowness of it all irks me.
I just wish she would finally snap n choose her own path, one that forever leaves her engraving on society and history.
All her insane past accomplishments are allocated to the real Rufus, now she isn’t even allowed to show her powers n has to mimic a helpless noble lady… it is such a borish life for someone of her prowess.
Why can’t the whole world know that the greatest is a woman? Cuz she could very well accomplish that and by doing so also opening many doors for all the other women in this suffocating patriarchy.
Given the plot still has a long way to go, that is what I wish to see in its future hopefully author won’t waste away her char. Looking at it all without rainbow lenses, so far all the men in her life want to use her for their own benefit whilst also hiding her away from society.
Misogyny is still very prevalent in this manga, so the male characters especially the love interest aren’t ideal at all. I just cannot root for the prince I wish their relationship would turn into a one sided love from him but that won’t happen given it’s pretty obvious he is the ML.
That nist knight by his side or however u spell his name is another annoying bigot who doesn’t deserve the princess at all. Actually I hope the princess ends up with Rufus
However MC is still a genius girlboss that cannot be held back, so I hope she will change her goals to further spread her wings. She’s isn’t suited to merely teach brats.
Not only her looks, but MC is also bisexual. She is literally head over heels for noir n I always squeal at her manic love bursts lol. Too bad she’s a bit late, they would’ve been the greatest CP
Totally I agree with your opinion.
That story doesn't allow this powerful heroine to be fully independent nor emancipated.
She is constantly being used by others and I think there is a lack of agency about her.
I know about this title for some years and I've been waiting for an English translation until now.
Have to say that I had too much expectations about this series.
MC Shao makes me so mad he’s so undeserving of wife and is fully taking advantage the audacity
I’m sad for wife he deserves sm better it sucks that he’s unknowingly catering to the fucker who treated him so horribly.
Romance characters like Shao are all covert narcissists who only ever think about themselves. They measure ppl’s worth by how much they’ll benefit them n put themselves on this fakeass high moral paddlestal. Scum like him should’ve never been given a chance to turn back time
He doesn’t rlly regret shit cuz his nature is rotten. If wife weren’t so compliant then Shao wouldve gladly trampled all over him cuz he’s an incredibly selfish person who throws tantrums like a brat if he doesn’t get his way.
Manhuas such as Cheating men must die are quite good at exposing the nature of these types of male characters so idk why they’re still so popular to write.
It is so incredibly unnecessary n irresponsible to turn every single darn character gay. Heck now errybody gay except their fathers. I rlly wanted author to leave the 2nd prince the fk alone from the gay fate but nah even he couldn’t be saved. Dude already has a wife whom he’s quite close with, he’s also the prince who will inherit the throne so the matter of an off spring is extremely important. This served absolutely zero purpose to the plot n only annoyed me further.
Nevertheless besides the annoying flaws that this story has, it is still a pretty decent and enjoyable read. I do wish we would get more court moments but it’s unfortunately too romance focused.
This is a magnificent manhwa, deserves far more hype than other webtoons such as solo reveling are getting.
The FEMALE characters are TOP TIER, far better than orv despite that one being even more adored by the female audience. This is true non gender bias in a male MC setting, my fav right behind trash of the count.
MC is very much BBG, I’m SO glad that he can be cold blooded when needed cuz I despise useless saints the most. The feelings between the characters transfer quite well, the dead fragment of his bro made me so sad. I just hope MC will hold back a bit from stressing him out sm
I don’t get the feeling that author BL baits unlike majority of popular shounen, it seems quite genuine but ofc nothing canon will happen otherwise they’ll lose market value. It’s quite kinky in some scenes ngl lol author’s such a tease
I luv peace he’s so cute n protective of him
The plot is rlly exciting n manages to get me hype
This manhwa has everything tbh it’s such a gem n so refreshing to read in a world of oversexualised female cast
gonna hate on u because of the line abt orv women
It’s the truth tho. Orv still suffers from a bit of sexualisation n BL bait. It’s not as targeted towards a female audience as yll make it seem. Author just tries to keep a decent balance between the ratio of their readers
Ermm..
um are u being fr? yk even this has like insane amt of bl bait bw the mc and the blondie
and idk what is targeted towards female audience, its targetted towards everyone regardless of gender, and there is no sexualisation in orv tf have u even read it? the female characters are op and idk why u are comparing in the first place
in the entire novel of orv, there is no romance and no sexualisation of anyone
see i agree with your point of sexualising female character in action manhwa with boobs and shit but orv is really the worst example u could had taken, because thats like the polar opposite
As I said it suffers from it a BIT especially in comparison to S-Class. They make sure the male chars are always stronger, which is fine but in terms of power even the very creator of the their world/book doesnt touch the top 3 yet her creation n reader plus sum random man do like bfr. They’re mostly dressed in super tight clothes with huge curves n both male protagonists have a woman by their side whom they’ve had some sort of romantic relationship with. So far all the female chars are someone’s woman n their male counterparts are surely stronger than them. Its not overt sexualisation n it’s still one of the best at treating their female cast but ur blind if u think it compares. In S-Class author doesn’t rlly queer bait given MC doesn’t hold romantic feelings for any woman n he in fact shows more interest in his male companions n in some cases even in a very suggestive manner. Orv could never, given their MC is supposed to be the ideal gentleman, nothing wrong with that but it’s guilty of the overused queer bait template in the media.
It is undeniable that the female cast in S class is more comfortable in that sense n if u can’t see it then it’s just down right personal bias.
omfg bfrr in orv like if u are putting up so points atleast look more into the matter
1) in tight clothes? girl thats the combat fucking fit, plus thats the webton artist own perception of the character, in the novel it was never described. plus only one woman has curves, and girl thats fucking normal?? are u saying as soon as someone has curves they are sexual? u are the one who is sexualising women me thinks
2)the mc himself never had any romantic relationship with any women in the entire orv+
there is no comparision abt who is stronger or who is not in orv, because the women in orv literally play a fundamental part
spoiler warning : if han sooyoung didnt exist the entire orv wouldnt had existed
3)omg dont even talk abt queer baiting, jesus christ the webtoon app promoting this webtoom by queer baiting is totally on them and they have faced the backlash, this novel has ENOUGH queer baiting so u cant even bring that as a topic of comparision
stop being so delusion tf
queer baiting is the last topic u should even bring into this debate because u are deluding yourself if u dont think this doesnt have its fair share of quuer bait
and orv has detailed relationship of every character with the mc, like there are literal arc belonging to every charac, orv in no way potrays the mc as ideal gentleman, he is just a normal man who just respect women and just reads shit
I like S-class novel/Webtoon more than ORV as well, albeit for different reasons than what you’ve listed)
It seems pointless to argue with a pick me. Also deciding on a target audience is like the first step of any sort of business including the writing industry. The gender of the audience is literally the first step. What are you 12? Even your choice of words is cringe, get a life
girl thats not what pick me is, pick me is literally somoene who puts down other girls for male validation tf, and just because i have a more profound vocabulary doesnt make me 12, its makes u somone who is not familiar with english, u are the one who is spouting utter bs and thinking that makes sense when in reality you are just sexualising female characters
and maybe some fucking times the target audience isnt a gender but a section of people in general who enjoy reading or who relate to the story.
personally, I agree with you. and also the characters are very likeable for me, not even orv made me like the characters that much. well maybe im quite biased bcoz i love this manhwa but seeing this comment thread it seems like this one user is also biased about orv too lol
i mean yeah u can say i am biased, but their argument of saying female characters are sexualised in orv is just plain wrong, you are free to like whatever u want, its completely valid but that statememt was just plain stupid
Glad there are other sane ppl. She probably thinks that she’s the only person out there who has read orv with the unbelievable amount lies that she’s spouting. It is not necessarily a bias to like a manhwa more because the characters are genuinely better written
the orv thing was plain wrong by op but hyunjae and yoojin isn't bl bait, they have real genuine care for each other. source: i have read the 870+ chapters of the novel this manhwa is based on. they're insane.
orv what and what ???
yeah i agree, i havent read the novel so, but like since the op bought up orv having bl bait, which it doesnt, i bought up that , thanks for understanding<3
I think op is delusional too, seems like they can't compliment something without bringing something else down. Orv women and storyline is top tier and manhwa readers have only seen the tip of the iceberg. This manhwa is a good read, why don't yall (op) stop comparing in the first place rather than complaining others are being 'biased' you start putting comparisons on another fan favorite story
Who lotta orv d riders. Ppl are gonna have their own perceptions u pick me’s are too blinded to see. Ur not changing anyone’s opinion by dismissing it
It was okay to read until the cp met then it became kinda boring idk why but despite this manhua having everything n objectively being rlly good, it’s hard to keep my interest. First reason is MC, I don’t like saint like chars they’re especially not interesting enough as a protagonist. I need a cruel mf who will bring turmoil everywhere he goes
Coincidentally enough I’m also not a fan of dog like ML’s that will follow MC n do everything for them. Maybe do so by the end of the story but right off the bat is just too bland for me.
I need more drama n angst which is why I usually go for enemies to lovers n such
So ideally multiply ML’s personality n give it to MC, to top it off make them both stoic
You need angst? Read the novel, this shit is so damn good I feel like you’re missing out if someone doesn’t tell you to really get into it. I get you don’t like the kinda ML follows MC but there’s a reason. Both of them have suffered and the ending is so satisfying after all the tears and crying don’t give up on it!
In a sense what you’re looking for in the MC kinda happens but it’s gonna take a while for the manhua to catch up to that ╮(￣▽￣)╭ though I do agree that even in the moments where MC is “cruel” he really is just desperate and at heart is a “Saint” kinda character
Also listen to first commenter they are totally correct
Thanks guys I’ve definitely refound my motivation to continue n am excited for the chapters where the wheels finally start to turn
I cannot wait and I’m glad I convinced you !
This hiatus has ended *teardrop*